Josephine Naisula Lesuuda

Sen. Lesuudaper county as at the time these banks went under. There are also a number of other issues relating to that.The national Treasury sent circulars to each county government to provide the information, but county governments have not obliged for reasons that they believe is in distinct dependence between...

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Sen. Lesuuda Let me hear you. Sen. Lesuuda I do not think Sen. Sang is referring to women who are employed using the right procedure. I do not think so. I think that is taking the argument too far. I do not believe that he is bracketing himself. I may...

Let me hear you. Sen. Lesuudainsinuate that they are not qualified?I think we need to understand the context. Personally, beautiful or not, I think we must understand the context. If I understand Sen. Sang, he is discussing corruption, nepotism and favouritism. That is what I understand him to be talking...

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Sen. Lesuuda What is your point of order?

Since there is no other interest to contribute to this Motion, I call upon the Mover to reply.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I have listened to the contributions of my colleagues and appreciate the fact that each of us is very much concerned about not just the transfer of the functions but how that function is being implemented and the resources that follow such functions. Interestingly it is...

On a point of order, Mr. Temporary, Speaker.

What is your point of order?

Mr. Temporary, Speaker, Sir, my neighbour, Sen. Murkomen told me that there was no need to indicate my interest to speak because my immediate neighbour, Sen. Lesuuda was replying. I have now realized that it is not the case, and he now has my two minutes. Is he in order?

The Chair was not party to those discussions, therefore---

Mr. Temporary, Speaker, Sir, for the record, indeed that is what I told Sen. (Prof.) Lonyangapuo but it was not before I was advised that we needed someone to reply so that the necessary Standing Order is applied in the next request which I am about to make. It was...

Sen. Lesuuda Let me hear you. Sen. Lesuuda I do not think Sen. Sang is referring to women who are employed using the right procedure. I do not think so. I think that is taking the argument too far. I do not believe that he is bracketing himself. I may...

Let me hear you. Sen. Lesuudainsinuate that they are not qualified?I think we need to understand the context. Personally, beautiful or not, I think we must understand the context. If I understand Sen. Sang, he is discussing corruption, nepotism and favouritism. That is what I understand him to be talking...

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Sen. Lesuuda What is your point of order?

Since there is no other interest to contribute to this Motion, I call upon the Mover to reply.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I have listened to the contributions of my colleagues and appreciate the fact that each of us is very much concerned about not just the transfer of the functions but how that function is being implemented and the resources that follow such functions. Interestingly it is...

On a point of order, Mr. Temporary, Speaker.

What is your point of order?

Mr. Temporary, Speaker, Sir, my neighbour, Sen. Murkomen told me that there was no need to indicate my interest to speak because my immediate neighbour, Sen. Lesuuda was replying. I have now realized that it is not the case, and he now has my two minutes. Is he in order?

The Chair was not party to those discussions, therefore---

Mr. Temporary, Speaker, Sir, for the record, indeed that is what I told Sen. (Prof.) Lonyangapuo but it was not before I was advised that we needed someone to reply so that the necessary Standing Order is applied in the next request which I am about to make. It was...

Sen. Lesuudaprocesses and to also look at what needs to be amended and how far you would want to go with your peace process. Otherwise, sometimes we just engage in peace activities to heighten the tension that is there.As we go towards elections, you will be hearing a lot of...

Sen. Lesuuda Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I rise to contribute to the National Cohesion and Integration (Amendment) Bill (Senate Bill No.6 of 2016) which has been moved by Sen. Elachi. It simply proposes that the Commission should engage itself more effectively on acts of peace building. It is not a...

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I rise to support this important amendment. The new component brought through this amendment seeks to give the NCIC more powers and mandate to evaluate and look into the various peace building processes and programmes in this country. It is important because there are various peace...

County is where people employ their own relatives. We have cases where a governor, Members of the CEC and directors employ their own relatives, girlfriends and concubines. Those are the problems we have in Nandi County. That did not come out from that report. Therefore, the NCIC has failed completely.We...

appreciate that we had a fairly peaceful election in the last election. We are now heading into the next election. However, we have seen certain divisive statements from our leaders. We have already heard statements from leaders who are unable to give clarity to the issue that they are raising....

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I rise to contribute to the National Cohesion and Integration (Amendment) Bill (Senate Bill No.6 of 2016) which has been moved by Sen. Elachi. It simply proposes that the Commission should engage itself more effectively on acts of peace building. It is not a problem.

very inadequate resources hence not achieving much. Last Saturday, I wrote an article in The Star on national cohesion and former Speaker Kaparo’s efforts to ensure that his commission does an effective job. My final conclusion was that the efforts being made by former Speaker Francis Xavier ole Kaparo are...

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Sen. Lesuuda Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I support with amendments to take care of what I have said.

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Sen. Lesuuda Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I support with amendments to take care of what I have said.

Sen. Lesuuda On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. Before you intervened, that is what was going through my mind, having been in that Committee. The exact question should be; there were certain clear, specific recommendations that were worked on by the Committee and deliberated in this House....

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Sen. LesuudaA an opportunity to discuss and debate it. This is where I beg your indulgence that this Report on mediation allows the Bill to come back to this House.I am not sure whether it will come back for the Second Reading or Third Reading. However, I hope that once...

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Senator, you are also being hit by your own Standing Orders. You are pre-empting debate and that is against your July 27, 2016 SENATE DEBATES

A Standing Orders. Please, read you Standing Orders and understand them so that I do not appear dictatorial like somebody would want to believe. ADOPTION OF THE MEDIATION COMMITTEE REPORT ON THE LAND LAWS BILL ADOPTION OF THE MEDIATION COMMITTEE REPORT ON THE WATER BILL

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Sen. Lesuuda Order! This was an Adjournment Motion. Therefore, there is no question to be put. Senate Minority Leader, you have no minutes left for this Motion. Hon. Senators, it is now 6.30 p.m., time to adjourn the Senate. Therefore, the Senate stands adjourned until tomorrow Thursday, 28th July, 2016,...

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A stakeholders and find a way to deal with this. For example, yesterday, one school quickly sent away students after getting intelligence reports that the school would be burnt. Somehow, for the last two to three months schools have been burnt and nothing much has happened in terms of addressing...

Sen. (Dr.) Zani, you have one-and-a-half minutes.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, did you mean two minutes?

You have one-and-a-half minutes.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, when you think about the nexus of a set of students waiting for examinations papers to come to them, you will realize that the teachers and the parents are involved in the whole scam. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, despite the removal of ranking, there is still...

A and help out in looking at the issues that need to be addressed. However, the level of shock suggests that we should have found a way of addressing the matter quickly in a comprehensive manner. It should be addressed in a conclusive manner too.When we compare our educational systems...

Order, Senator! In fact, you went beyond your allocated two minutes and you showed no signs of concluding. The Senate Minority Leader (

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, when Sen. (Prof.) Lesan consulted with me that he was bringing this Motion, I was happy. I congratulate him for doing so. That is why I have joined the few Members in the House to voice our concern about what is going on in schools. Mr....

A parent to pay Kshs 6,000. The school collected about Ksh10 Million when the cost of rebuilding is about Kshs2.5 Million.Yesterday, the CS for Education informed the country that the ongoing torching of dormitories in schools is because of exam cheating. How callous? A school like St. Patrick’s Iten has...

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, on a point of order. Sen. (Prof.) Lesan is a Member of my Committee and this was done through my consultation. So, you need to understand, the Senate Minority Leader. The Senate Minority Leader (

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. A Motion of Adjournment is definitely not a policy statement or a statement of a policy nature that one would have expected. However, we shall live with that. It is an omission that is not vital, but it is an omission that is noticeable...

A of the Committee tells the House and the country that this Senate takes a very dim view of what is going on in our schools.Today, we have recorded 110 schools that have gone up in smoke. That is not a small number because it is still going on. Now,...

On a point of order, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. Did you hear the Senator whom I have a lot of respect for, associate looting or what he refers to as stealing everything with this debate? It has nothing to do with our discussion this afternoon regarding destruction of property in...

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, if the distinguished Mover of the Motion listened to me, I said, “You have misplaced July 27, 2016 SENATE DEBATES

A priorities.” While schools are going up in smoke, you are preoccupied with theft of public resources and corruption. Not necessarily you, but you know that even the President has acknowledged that corruption in this country has reached a level he cannot manage. He has acknowledged that his office is...

Order! This was an Adjournment Motion. Therefore, there is no question to be put. Senate Minority Leader, you have no minutes left for this Motion. Hon. Senators, it is now 6.30 p.m., time to adjourn the Senate. Therefore, the Senate stands adjourned until tomorrow Thursday, 28th July, 2016, at 2.30...

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Sen. Lesuuda Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, they had asked for one week and it passed a long time ago and I have not been given the Statement.

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Sen. Lesuuda On a point of order, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir.

Sen. LesuudaMr. Speaker, Sir, I would be the last to intimidate anybody, least of all, the distinguished and pleasant young Senator for Kericho.Why do Bungoma and Kakamega counties have the highest schools unconnected? The connection reflects the commitment at budgetary level, to counties, schools and regions. Secondly, I have seen...

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Sen. Lesuuda[The Speaker (Hon. Ethuro) left the Chair] [The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Ongoro) took the chair] VISITING DELEGATION OF TEACHERS AND STUDENTS FROM PRECIOUS BLOOD SECONDARY, RIRUTA, NAIROBI (Applause)

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Sen. Lesuudathe senior counsel in this country, and a member of CORD, to demonstrate the leadership that we require of him, to make sure that temperatures are cooled down by political leaders across the political divide. Attorney-General Emeritus is not just a leader of CORD; he is a leader for...

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I rise to support this Motion. We have done good work. I also note that within the period that we have had, the Senate still has a lot of pending work. I hope that when we resume, we can get time and extend if possible, so...

the senior counsel in this country, and a member of CORD, to demonstrate the leadership that we require of him, to make sure that temperatures are cooled down by political leaders across the political divide. Attorney-General Emeritus is not just a leader of CORD; he is a leader for both...

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Sen. Lesuudathe senior counsel in this country, and a member of CORD, to demonstrate the leadership that we require of him, to make sure that temperatures are cooled down by political leaders across the political divide. Attorney-General Emeritus is not just a leader of CORD; he is a leader for...

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I rise to support this Motion. We have done good work. I also note that within the period that we have had, the Senate still has a lot of pending work. I hope that when we resume, we can get time and extend if possible, so...

the senior counsel in this country, and a member of CORD, to demonstrate the leadership that we require of him, to make sure that temperatures are cooled down by political leaders across the political divide. Attorney-General Emeritus is not just a leader of CORD; he is a leader for both...