George Khaniri

Sen. Khaniri On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Mine is slightly different and it has to do with procedure. I am glad that you have just given us the provisions of Standing Order No.65 (4) (b) which provides or accords the Governor and opportunity to say something. Now,...

Sen. Khaniri Mr. Speaker, Sir, protect me.

Sen. Khaniri Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. My proposal is that after the Mover moves the Motion and it is seconded, then you can accord the Governor his 30 minutes so that once we begin the debate, we would have heard from both sides. Thank you.

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Sen. Khaniri On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Mine is slightly different and it has to do with procedure. I am glad that you have just given us the provisions of Standing Order No.65 (4) (b) which provides or accords the Governor and opportunity to say something. Now,...

Sen. Khaniri Mr. Speaker, Sir, protect me.

Sen. Khaniri Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. My proposal is that after the Mover moves the Motion and it is seconded, then you can accord the Governor his 30 minutes so that once we begin the debate, we would have heard from both sides. Thank you.

Sen. Khaniriknow that we, as a Senate, are not going to tolerate abuse of the Constitution and misuse of public funds which have been entrusted to them. As we even move towards the beginning of a new financial year, we expect that prudent management of public resources will be exercised...

Sen. KhaniriWe will, today, assure Kenyans that the suffering that people undergo out there while queuing at Governor’s offices, day in day out, waiting to pick jobs when jobs have been given out through back doors to cronies is something that this Senate will correct. This Senate will defend the...

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Yes, I think we have exhausted the three contributions from each side; so, now we will allow the Senate Minority Leader. The Senate Minority Leader (

Sen. Khaniri Mr. Speaker, Sir, given the fact that the honourable Senator has requested for many issues including investigations into the alleged vandalism, I request for three weeks so as to issue the statement. STATEMENT HOUR SEQUENCE OF BUSINESS FOR THE SENATE

Sen. Khaniri On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Did you hear the Senator for Turkana refer to the Senate Majority Leader as the Leader of Government? Is he in order? There is no Government in this House.

Sen. Khaniri On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir. There is no such Committee known as the Committee on Agriculture and Roads. Can the hon. Senator be specific as to which Committee he is referring to?

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Sen. Khaniri Mr. Deputy Speaker, a comprehensive Statement was requested on the raid by cattle rustlers at Apuke in West Pokot County. The Statement on the raid by the cattle rustlers at Apuke in West Pokot was issued in the House on 23rd October, 2013. However, it was ruled that...

Does that suit you, Mr. Chairman?

Sen. Khaniri Mr. Speaker, Sir, I have two Statements to issue from the Committee on Agriculture, Land and Natural Resources. MANAGEMENT OF 99 YEAR-OLD LEASES BY THE GOVERNMENT November 5, 2013 SENATE DEBATES November 5, 2013 SENATE DEBATES Sen. KhaniriThe Government is also alive to the fact that leases expire...

Sen. Khaniri Mr. Speaker, Sir, you will agree with me that that is really a handful but I will attempt to answer. Sen. Murungi, my senior, wants us to expedite the process of bringing the comprehensive list and he has specifically said that he wants it in three weeks’ time....

Sen. Khaniri Mr. Speaker, Sir, you are fully aware that the answers are provided by the Cabinet Secretary and I am not a member of the Executive. But I want to state that most of the issues that have been raised by the Senators, I think we will put them...

Sen. Khaniri Mr. Speaker, Sir, if you may remember, it is just last week but one that we requested for three months and you ordered us to come with an answer last week which we were unable. So, three months minus two weeks is two-and-a-half months to be very precise.

Sen. Khaniri On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I am aware that the Statement that Sen. Haji is going to issue is a Statement that I requested for. So, before I get into the other side of asking questions, could you allow me to remain on this side,...

Sen. Khaniri Mr. Speaker, Sir, on 23rd October, 2013, Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr. requested for a Statement from my Committee. In the Statement, he wanted to know the names of persons logging at the said forests, the number of trees so far cut down, whether there is any policy by...

Sen. Khaniri Mr. Speaker, Sir, to answer Sen. Murkomen’s question, outrightly, we all know that under the Schedule of Distribution of Responsibilities, forests fall under the national Government. Therefore, I want to believe that it is the national Government. But I think that it is up to this House to...

Sen. Khaniri Mr. Speaker, Sir, I fully concur. As I said in my response to Sen. Murkomen, under the Schedule that distributes responsibilities between the national Government and the county governments, forests clearly fall under the national Government. Sen. Kajwang has brought in a contradiction and I think that these...

Sen. Khaniri Mr. Speaker, Sir, I agree with him. As I said, these are some of the grey areas that I think, as a Senate, our job being to protect the county governments and ensure that county governments have enough resources to run, it is important that we come up...

Sen. Khaniri Mr. Speaker, Sir, I do not have the answer to that question, but given time, I should be able to get this answer for the hon. Senator.

Sen. Khaniri Mr. Speaker, Sir, the second Statement is on Masongaleni Settlement Scheme. We are still---

Sen. Khaniri Yes, Mr. Speaker, Sir. It is a statement on the settlement scheme and we are not very ready with it. We still need some more time. November 5, 2013 SENATE DEBATES

Sen. Khaniri Mr. Speaker, Sir, we received the initial Statement from the Ministry and are still looking at it as a Committee. We cannot issue this particular Statement before the Committee goes through the response that came from the Ministry. I will ask for about two weeks.

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Sen. Khaniri Mr. Speaker, Sir, we had requested for time for this Statement to come on Thursday, next week. This morning, the Committee had a meeting. We should be having a meeting with the concerned Cabinet Secretary on Tuesday, next week. I believe that by Thursday, next week, we should...

Sen. Khaniri Mr. Speaker, Sir, we had requested for time for this Statement to come on Thursday, next week. This morning, the Committee had a meeting. We should be having a meeting with the concerned Cabinet Secretary on Tuesday, next week. I believe that by Thursday, next week, we should...

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Sen. KhaniriI, therefore, urge Senators to support this Motion in full and to insist that Sarah Serem and her Commission appears before the Committee of the Whole so that she answers some of the questions that are burdening some of us.I second. October 15, 2013 SENATE DEBATES Sen. Khaniri No,...

Sen. Khaniri Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I want to start by thanking you for this opportunity to make just one or two remarks on this Motion, which I think is very important. Let me begin by hailing Sen. Karaba for the well thought out Motion that he brought this morning....

Sen. Khaniri Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I need your guidance here because my understanding of the Standing Orders is that once a Member has contributed on a Motion, he cannot be the one calling upon the Mover to reply. Is it in order for Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale to call upon...

Sen. Khaniri Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the Chairperson is not here and I am the Vice-Chairman of the Committee. I want to give an undertaking that we will issue that Statement in two weeks’ time. The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kembi-Gitura) : Is that okay, Sen. (Prof.) Lonyangapuo?

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Sen. Khaniri Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the Chairperson is not here and I am the Vice-Chairman of the Committee. I want to give an undertaking that we will issue that Statement in two weeks’ time. The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kembi-Gitura) : Is that okay, Sen. (Prof.) Lonyangapuo?

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