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Sen. Haji Very well. Sen. Musila is here. You can go ahead and issue the Statement.

So, for the record, when will it be ready? Sen. Haji Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, we are supposed to meet the Cabinet Secretary. However, I will be comfortable with Tuesday next week.

That is the end of Statement time.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I have a statement that was sought by Sen. Musila.

Very well. Sen. Musila is here. You can go ahead and issue the Statement. STATUS OF CASH TRANSFER PROGRAMMES

Sen. Haji Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am aware there has been a border dispute between Meru and Isiolo. I am aware that leaders have been meeting over it but I have not seen the Accord signed in Nanyuki. However, the Statement sought by Sen. (Dr.) Kuti is quite valid and...

Sen. Haji Mr. Speaker, Sir, I need a week. Will that be alright?

Sen. Haji Order, senators! What you are expressing this afternoon is what happens when you do not allow rules to prevail. There was a unanimous consideration by the House, including the latest complaints from the Senators themselves. When I was stopping the Senator, they said that he should carry on,...

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Sen. Hajipublicize and set standards relevant in the quality of university education, including the promotion and support of internationally recognized standards.”The new sub-section provides that the CUE can promote and support internationally recognized standards. Taking cognizance of this, the recognition ofacademic qualification from Washington International University by the United Nations...

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Sen. Haji Thank you Mr. Speaker, Sir. Thirdly, I want to say that it is hoped that all these functions that are listed in Section 10 of the National Police Service Act are functions that the new Inspector-General of Police, if this House approves, will perform and reassure the people...

Order, Sen. Haji! I can confirm that there is nothing wrong with you. You may now resume your seat. Please, conclude, Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr.

Sen. HajiOrder, I do not need any assistance. Anybody standing while I am on my feet is breaching orders. Sit down, Sen. Wetangula. We have been running time properly.I will now put the question and this is not a matter affecting counties.

Sen. Haji Order, hon. Members. There is a call for division. Please, count the numbers. (The Clerk-at-the table counted the Senators) Order, hon. Senators! We have counted. You are 11 instead of 15. Therefore, the call for division is lost.

Order, Senator! You allow the donations first and then conclude. You should be the last one. Proceed, Sen. Kembi-Gitura.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I want to thank the Chairman of our Committee for allowing me the five minutes to make a contribution. I would like to persuade my colleagues on the other side to vote with us for the nominee. I am a Member of this Committee and wish to...

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Sen. Kembi-Gitura has said that I was referring to hearsay and that the person who gave me the documents March 4, 2015 SENATE DEBATES

should have come before the Committee. Is he in order to say that when we know that one of the people who swore an affidavit and presented it to them was not invited? Up to this time, that person has not been heard. Is he in order?

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I insist that Sen. Khalwale would have been very helpful to the Committee if he had brought that evidence before us, so that he could try to persuade us. As regards the qualification of this gentleman, whom I had never met in my life until the vetting,...

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Is it right for the Deputy Speaker and the Senator for Murang’a to downgrade my feeling and estimation of the nominee and to compare it to that of Senator Murkomen? If you look at Sen. Murkomen’s qualifications, even in law, you will...

Proceed, Sen. Kembi-Gitura.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, if we agree like we must and Prof. Some brought this out very clearly, the degree from Australia---- If you go to the internet, you will see that they do not require you to have a first degree. However, they admit you if you have certain qualifications....

Where is the Mover? Sen. Haji Mr. Speaker, Sir, he is qualified; he has the experience more than President Obama who served one term before becoming President. He is also a left- handed person, a qualification which many heads of states have. I beg to move.

Order, hon. Senators. I will now put the question. (Several hon. Senators stood up in their places) March 4, 2015 SENATE DEBATES

Order, I do not need any assistance. Anybody standing while I am on my feet is breaching orders. Sit down, Sen. Wetangula. We have been running time properly.I will now put the question and this is not a matter affecting counties.

Division, Division.

Order, hon. Members. There is a call for division. Please, count the numbers. (The Clerk-at-the table counted the Senators) Order, hon. Senators! We have counted. You are 11 instead of 15. Therefore, the call for division is lost. ADJOURNMENT

Order, hon. Senators. It is now time to interrupt the business of the House. The Senate stands adjourned until tomorrow, Thursday, 5th March, 2015 at 2.30 pm. The Senate rose at 6.30 p.m.

Sen. Haji Mr. Speaker, Sir, the Committee should be given 60 days since we have so much work to do.

Sen. Haji Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table of the Senate today, Tuesday 3rd March, 2015:- Report of the Joint Committee of the Departmental Committee on Administration and National Security of the National Assembly and the Standing Committee on National Security and Foreign...

Sen. Haji Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg to give notice of the following Motion:- March 3, 2015 SENATE DEBATES Sen. HajiTHAT, this House adopts the Report of the Joint Committee of the Departmental Committee on Administration and National Security of the National Assembly and the Standing Committee on National Security...

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Sen. Haji Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the question of the recruited and suspended appointment of police officers is sub judice. Is it really in order for me to answer?

Sen. Haji Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, fine. In two weeks’ time. February 25, 2015 SENATE DEBATES

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Sen. Haji Mr. Temporary Chairman, Sir, this amendment is not about parts (a) ,

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Sen. Haji Hon. Members, I will propose the question. This is not a county matter. This is not a county matter so, it will be by acclamation. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) The Mover, please, proceed.

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Sen. Haji Mr. Speaker, Sir, I request for two weeks because the Statements requires a thorough investigation on what has been raised by the distinguished Senator for Turkana County.

Sen. Haji On a Point of Order, Mr. Speaker, Sir. If you are talking about Kapedo, we were never attacked. I am shocked to hear somebody asking me whether we were attacked because we were not attacked. For the benefit of the House, the meeting was very cordial. We did...

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Sen. Haji(Laughter) [The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Murkomen) left the Chair] [The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Ongoro) took the Chair] (Applause) February 17, 2015 SENATE DEBATES Sen. Haji I move to the current problem of education in Garissa, Wajir and Mandera. It is hurting that Europeans came all the way from England...

Order. Thank you, Senator.

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Sen. Haji Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, fiscal responsibility is a very important parameter which addresses the issue of prudent financial management. Some of the principles on fiscal responsibility are already provided for in the Public Finance Management (PFM) Act, which looks at the level of recurrent expenditures, and so on....

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I think it is important for Members to understand what we are presenting because it is a very important responsibility and they need to go and explain it in their counties. Sometimes they will be asked to explain to their own counties, so they need to appreciate...

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Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, fiscal responsibility is a very important parameter which addresses the issue of prudent financial management. Some of the principles on fiscal responsibility are already provided for in the Public Finance Management (PFM) Act, which looks at the level of recurrent expenditures, and so on. But I...

The other two parameters that have been introduced, one is the development factor which has a weight of 1 per cent. The development factor is important because it looks at those parameters that will help us to take into account the socio-economic dimensions into this matter. This is important because...

cent. The percentage of households without access to improved sanitation; those that do not have the normal pit latrine, forget the sewerage system at Wajir headquarters is 93 per cent. The percentage of women delivering at home is 94.6 per cent. Therefore, when you compare that with other counties, for...

the formula we have is simple, measurable and addresses concerns of in-equitability. It also remains predictable. It is reviewed once every three years and we do not want a formula which varies every year because of the parameters we have chosen.That is basically the recommendation. We want to urge Senators...

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Sen. Haji I am explaining. The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Murkomen) : Okay, continue.

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Sen. Haji Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I think there is some confusion here. First, I want us to appreciate the role that the reservists have already played because they are there and they are playing a good role. However, on matters of education, we are trying to improve the service....

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Sen. Haji Very well, he is completely out of order.

Sen. Haji On a point of order, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. What is it, Sen. Murkomen? - THAT, Clause 3 of the Bill be deleted. The rationale is that this amendment is as earlier proposed. It seeks to delete the proposal which has already been incorporated at Section 47 of...

For the benefit of Senators, what does it say? The Chairman is saying that there was an amendment that provided for payments. Mr. Chairman, could you approach my desk? For the benefit of the Members, you will read the relevant sections that you are referring to. For Members who are...

Mr. Temporary Chairperson, Sir, I am looking for Section 47 (c). This Section sets new ---Without prejudice to Section 2, police reserve officers shall be paid such remuneration and allowances as the Commission shall, in consultation with the Salaries and Remuneration Commission (SRC) determine. I said delete but I am...

Thank you, Chairman. My understanding, for the benefit of those who are following is that, somehow an amendment to this Bill which was in the National Assembly almost crossed each other probably at the end of June 2014 while this one was introduced on 2nd July, 2014 where there is...

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