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Sen. Adan On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I would like to make a correction on something that is on the Order Paper. This is on the second statement. This was not a statement, but a report of the Committee on National Security for Mandera, Kapedo and Laikipia....

Sen. Adan Mr. Speaker, Sir, I appreciate this is a very important and sensitive matter. As I said earlier, the report has already left the desk of the Committee. I signed it and we are now in the process of getting a report to lay it on the Table. I...

Sen. Adan Mr. Speaker, Sir,, I corrected this. This was not a Statement. It is a Motion that was awaiting a report of the Committee and I think I responded to it.

Sen. Adan Mr. Speaker, Sir, I remember that we responded to this particular Statement extensively last week and the week before. I remember we visited the CS, Interior and Coordination of National Government with the Chairperson to discuss this particular matter. What was left was the response on the issue...

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Sen. Adan On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Is it in order for the Senate Minority Leader to question his own responsibility in terms of the performance of this House? If there is someone who is culpable in so far as the performance of the Committees of this...

Sen. Adan Order! Order! What is it, Sen. Murkomen? Avoid the accusations, Members.

Sen. Adan Order, Sen. Murkomen! He has not only showered you with praises, but enhanced your stature and responsibilities. (Laughter) July 23rd, 2015 SENATE DEBATES OUTBREAK OF MALARIA IN THE WESTERN REGION

Sen. Adan Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am sorry. I do not want to contribute to this. It was an earlier one.

Sen. Adan On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I have two Statements that are not in the Order Paper. With your permission, I could issue them.

Sen. Adan Mr. Speaker, Sir, I wish to respond to the Statement sought by Sen. Kagwe of Nyeri County. Pursuant to Standing Order No.45 (2) (b) , he requested for a Statement from the Chairperson of the Standing Committee on National Security and Foreign Relations regarding the treatment of Kenyans...

Sen. Adan Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I want to agree that this has generated a lot of interest and discussion. There is some kind of disappointment amongst Kenyans who are applying for the South African Visa. Nevertheless, the Ministry has owned up to the challenges they are facing, and that...

Sen. Adan Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I have said that there are a lot of issues that were brought out in the discussions. We will be able, as a Committee, to get further clarification on those issues probably by the end of next week or Thursday next week.

Sen. Adan Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I would request the House, with your permission, to let me respond to the issues raised in the House by Thursday next week and if they are not satisfactorily answered, then we could summon the Cabinet Secretary, with your permission.

Sen. Adan Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I request that the Senator gives us about two months so that we give a comprehensive answer. This is because he has inquired about uncollected identification (ID) cards and other issues. We request that he gives us that time so that we provide him...

Sen. Adan Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, even if I request for one month, we will still be on recess if I am not wrong. Maybe, the secretariat needs to confirm that. We are supposed to go on recess from 31st July, 2015, to 15th September, 2015, according to the information...

Sen. Adan Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I request Sen. Obure to allow us two weeks to come up with a response, if that is okay with him.

That sounds reasonable.

Sen. Adan On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I thought we were going to follow the Order Paper. We have jumped from (a) to (d) .

Sen. Adan Mr. Speaker, Sir, I wish to respond to the Statement that was sought by Sen. Munyes on the existence of international boundary disputes between Kenya and her neighbours. He particularly sought to be informed on:-

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I thought that is what I heard from the Vice Chairperson. So, Sen. Munyes and Sen. Billow, you need to be listening to her when she is talking. Sen. Adan, in one week’s time, you will come back to the House and give us the necessary responses. Hon. Senators, we...

Sen. Adan Mr. Speaker, Sir, this Statement that was sought by Sen. Musila regarding the killings of residents of Kitui County---

Sen. Adan Mr. Speaker, Sir, I was given this Statement this afternoon by the clerk of the Committee. I thought that they are the ones who should furnish the relevant Senator with a copy. But, nevertheless, I will give out the Statement for a copy to be made and then...

Sen. Adan Mr. Speaker, Sir, Sen. Musila requested for a Statement regarding the killings of residents of Kitui County by herdsmen. The Senator sought to be informed when the herdsmen will be removed from the county and when the Government is going to arm the police reservists so that they...

Sen. Adan Please, proceed Sen. Musila. July 7th, 2015 SENATE DEBATES

Please, proceed Sen. Musila.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I first thank the Vice- Chairperson who has diligently followed up this matter. I thank her for this Statement which is comprehensive, though lacking some facts. As you have noticed, this is a very serious matter. Every paragraph in the Statement contains killings of Kamba tribesmen by...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I have been listening to the response given by the Vice Chairperson. We have been told of people who were shot, killed, injured and robbed July 7th, 2015 SENATE DEBATES

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. This is an issue that requires a lot of interrogation. We need to think about security because that is what is even causing students to leave schools and abandon learning totally. Is the Ministry considering the plight of students especially when there is a spate...

Bw. Spika, nimesikiza taarifa iliyotolewa na Naibu Mwenyekiti. Ningependa kumjulisha na kumkosoa kwamba shida ambayo inakabili Kaunti ya Kitui inahusu makabila mawili; Wasomali na Wakamba. Ni dhahiri kwamba hatua zilizochukuliwa zinatenganisha makabila haya mawili. Ikiwa watu wa Kitui watachukua hatua, itaelekezwa kwa Wasomali kisha itakuwa vita vya kikabila. Inafaa Naibu...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, we are probably demanding too much from the Government because these are critical security issues like what has just happened in Mandera. If a Government cannot deal with herders, I do not know how they are going to deal with the bigger security situation concerning Al Shabaab...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, just to add my voice to this issue. Anybody traveling to north eastern through Kitui will need to be escorted from the point where you leave Kitui into north eastern. The Government is, therefore, aware that there is a security problem. What is the Government going to...

Sen Adan Mr. Speaker, Sir, there is a Statement that I have been requesting for weeks on end from the Chairperson of the Committee on National Security and Foreign Relations. I am lucky today because both the Chairperson and the Vice Chairperson are here. I understand the Statement is now...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, there is a Statement that I have been requesting for weeks on end from the Chairperson of the Committee on National Security and Foreign Relations. I am lucky today because both the Chairperson and the Vice Chairperson are here. I understand the Statement is now ready ---

Order, Sen. Murungi! You had already petitioned the Chair. Yours will be the next and last Statement for the day. What is it, Sen. Haji?

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am just wondering whether my Vice Chairperson will accompany me or I will accompany her. Is she in order?

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I started by commending the Vice Chairperson who has really worked very hard to get this Statement. I think this should not be the end of the matter of the Chairperson accompanying the Vice Chairperson or vice versa. This is a matter of national importance and I...

Hon. Senators, I see there is a threat to repeat the entire cycle and we do not have the luxury of time. I want to direct that the Chairperson of the Committee accompanies the Vice Chairperson. When the Chairperson decided to delegate the authority to respond to the Vice Chairperson,...

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Mr. Speaker, Sir, first, let me apologize for the Statement I made about the Chairperson accompanying me. Unfortunately I have been handling this matter and so that is why the responsibility was mine. July 7th, 2015 SENATE DEBATES STATUS OF THE AGREEMENT ON THE MERU/ISIOLO COUNTY BORDER [The Speaker (Hon....

Order, hon. Senators! Sen.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I was waiting for her to finish reading the Statement.

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Let us consult in low tones please. Consult silently so that we may hear what is going on.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I know that Sen. Musila has poured a lot of congratulations and accolades to the Vice Chairperson of the Committee. However, you have to take the accolades away because the Statement she has read falls far short of the expectations of this House. July 7th, 2015...

Vice Chairperson, what have you decided about that? Sen. Adan Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, first, I want to say that it will be unfair for Sen. Murungi to take away points that were given to me by Sen. Musila. This is because the situation is not my making. However, the...

The request by Sen. Murungi was quite explicit. He required details that, I think, are also important to this House. In your consultations with the CS, make sure that the sentiments, requests and prayer, as expressed by the Senator, are properly expressed and presented. We expect you to bring the...

Hold on. I can see an intervention from Sen. Karaba.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I was trying to inform my friend here that both CSs will be appearing before us next week.

Hold on. Are you on a point of information?

Yes, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir.

Whom do you want to inform?

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Sen. Adan, do you want to be informed? Sen. Adan Yes, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir.

Go on, Sen. Karaba.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I wanted to inform her that we have already invited both the CS for Education and the one for Interior and Coordination of National Government. During the meeting, anything else which is not clear will be made clear at that time when they appear before the...

Very well. That is not for this House. It is about your own consultations on how you will carry out the request. However, she had already accepted and given an undertaking of meeting the CS concerning the issues raised by Sen. Murungi. I think that was quite in order. Sen....

Sen. Munyes was here a few minutes ago but he is not in the House. A tradition has been set and accepted that one cannot present a statement in the absence of the Senator who requested for it unless he notoriously absents himself. This is the first time that I...

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, would I be in order to acknowledge two of our colleagues attributed to Saba Saba Day? These are Sen. Murungi and Sen. Orengo. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, we have a very beautiful Mace before us which we have all taken notice of. There is always an...

Point of order!

Before your points of order, when I am on my feet, you do not even attempt to say “point of order.” I have carefully listened to Sen. Hassan. We have the Mace here on 7th July. That is just a coincidence. It has nothing to do with the Saba Saba....

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, could you indulge me on two points of order? The first one concerns, of course, what you have just explained. It is important that when this explanation comes from the Clerk, who incidentally is the Chief Executive Officer (CEO) of the Parliamentary Service Commission, he brings...

Very well. I have heard and listened to you carefully. I order that the Clerk takes in your concern as an addendum to the questions that were sought by Sen. Omar. I order that this report be brought to the House within two weeks. There is nothing to hide. We...

On a point of order, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. Just for the sake of the HANSARD, I did not ask what the functions of the Mace are. I just asked to be told a little more about its production, which was further qualified by Sen. Khalwale. Since the HANSARD is...

Sen. Adan Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I am most obliged.

Sen. Adan Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I have the Statement but last week, the Speaker directed us to wait for Sen. Munyes to come back.

Sen. Adan Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. We do not have an answer yet, but I would like to inform the House that I followed up on the Statement this morning and was informed that it was with the Cabinet Secretary and just waiting to be signed. I have...

Sen. Adan Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I would request Sen. (Prof.) Lonyangapuo to give us about two weeks to respond. I wish to inform this House that I spoke to the Cabinet Secretary, Ministry of Interior and Coordination of National Government this morning on the matter that affects boundaries, especially...

Sen. Adan Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I would request, Sen. (Prof.) Lonyangapuo to bear with us, because I am sure, that stopping the construction might complicate issues. I believe that this is a contract that has already been entered into by the relevant counties.

Sen. Adan Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, since Sen. (Prof.) Lonyangapuo insists on this matter, and I am not privy to the construction that is on the ground, I will share the same information with the Cabinet Secretary. If it is possible, we will deal with it immediately. If is not...

Sen. Adan Mr. Speaker, Sir, I will respond to Sen. Abdirahman in terms of the concerns that he raised on the Cabinet Secretary for the Ministry of Interior and Coordination of National Government to appear before the Senate. Before we went on recess, we summoned the Cabinet Secretary plus the...

Sen. Adan Mr. Speaker, Sir, I have just received the answer for the first Statement that was sought by Sen. Munyes but he is not in the House. With your indulgence, if I could issue it tomorrow when he is in the House.

Sen. Adan Yes, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I beg to lay the following four Papers on the Table:- COPIES OF RULES OF INTER-PARLIAMENTARY GAMES TOURNAMENT PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE TREATY BY EALA RESOLUTION OF NANYUKI III May 28th, 2015 SENATE DEBATES REPORT ON THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT DISASTER MANAGEMENT BILL, 2014 ANNUAL...

Sen. Adan On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I have a response to an issue which is in today’s Order Paper. I am also supposed to give a response on the Forthcoming State Visit by the President of the United States, Mr. Barack Obama. I do not know...

Sen. Adan Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I managed to use the time given to me so that I could discuss further the issues raised in the House regarding the visit by the President of the United States of America (USA) . I had a meeting this morning with the...

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