Mayaka Irene Nyakerario

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I thank Hon. Mishi for this opportunity to add my voice in support of this very important Motion. I just want to quickly mention that in this country, we only have 10 facilities that provide mental health illness services. This Motion is important because we...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Allow me to raise this particular concern. You had given instructions about six weeks ago that the Departmental 7th August 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 4 Committee on Social Protection would bring a response of a statement I raised in regard to the

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I also rise to support the Report of the Committee on Appointments. Firstly, I want these particular nominees to know that some of them have been given a second chance against the wish of the public. Therefore, we want them to make sure that they 7th...

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker, for this opportunity. I stand here to support the Supplementary Appropriation (No.2) Bill of 2024 because of the austerity measures that are being put in place. The measures will ensure that we stop wastage and cut down on unnecessary expenditure. Hon. Deputy Speaker, let me...

Hon. Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee of Sports and Culture regarding the eight Kenya Under-17 Women National Team players who are scheduled to travel to the Dominican Republic to...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. What I know is that the Hon. Member does not use sanitary pads. I am the one who uses them. I know the feeling and most Kenyans who use pads know the feeling. So, unless he uses pads, he should not tell me otherwise. As I...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I also take this opportunity to welcome the chiefs and, in particular, happily recognise the only lady from my home county of Nyamira. I give them a warm welcome to observe as we conduct the proceedings of the House. I thank you. She is not the...

Thank you Hon. Temporary Speaker for giving me this opportunity. I also stand to join my colleagues in supporting this very progressive Bill by Hon. Lesuuda. We thank her for bringing this Bill to the Floor of the House. Hon. Temporary Speaker, one of the things that I like about...

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari) : What is out of order, Hon. Mayaka? Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I am quite concerned because I am wondering why the e-mail from Hon. Millie to request that Hon. Nyikal or I move the amendments on...

Yes. The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Is it the same thing you have, Hon. Chairman?

In addition to what the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Health has said, we seek your guidance on which amendment will come before the other. This is because the two are different from each other, but both are very important. The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari) : We are...

That is also what I have moved on behalf of Hon. Millie. That is part (a) and then (b) , on renumbering. The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Yes, Hon. Chairman. 4th June 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 35

I beg to move: THAT, Clause 28 of the Bill be amended in—

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I have prosecuted both. (Hon. (Dr) James Nyikal spoke off the record) The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Hold on, Hon. Nyikal. Hon. Mayaka, the fate that the proposal under sub-clause (1) has suffered is the same that this amendment will face because we have already...

Yes, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. (Proposed amendment to Clause 28(2) by Hon. Millie Odhiambo-Mabona dropped)The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Therefore, I will put the global Question. (Clause 28 as amended agreed to) Clause 29

THAT, Clause 29 of the Bill be amended—

THAT, Clause 29 of the Bill be amended by deleting sub-clause (9) . This is because there is no need to cap the validity of health products and technology at five years. They should ideally operate indefinitely unless a significant change may warrant another application to be registered. (Question of...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. The justification is that when you put technology in place, it should operate indefinitely. It should not be capped at five years unless you want to constantly change the warranty that has been provided. I do not see the need for that. The Temporary Chairlady...

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I want to try to convince the Chair on this particular issue. When it comes to technology, you cannot peg a specific timeline on it unless the manufacturer and the people who have come up with that particular product have indicated that you give it a shelve...

Hon.Temporary Chairlady, I advise that instead of seven, we do 10. The reason for that is because even if you put it at seven before you bring in another technological improvement to it, you still have a “grandfathering” period for the technology that you have in place. That is usually...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I am fully guided by that. I agree with the Chairman that we should push for further amendments on that. So, I drop this amendment. (Proposed amendment by Hon. Anthony Oluoch to clause 29(9) withdrawn) The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Very well. There...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I beg to move: THAT, Clause 29 of the Bill be amended— No. (Question of the amendment proposed) The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Hon. Nyikal?

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I beg to move: THAT, Clause 29 of the Bill be amended—

Hon. Deputy Chairlady, the amendment by Hon. Millie under sub clause (3) is similar to what the Chairperson has already prosecuted. So, I support. Do you drop this amendment? Yes.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I beg to move: THAT, Clause 33 of the Bill be amended by inserting the following new subclause immediately after subclause (2) — (2A) in the case of cancellation of registration of a herbal medicine, the Registrar shall in such case specify—

(Nominated, ODM) : We are not dealing with herbal medicine. The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari) Hon. Mayaka, we had earlier said what you withdraw under sub-clause (2) . Is that so? 4th June 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 55 Yes. The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari) : You are on...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I drop the amendments as per the agreement. (Proposed amendment to Clause 33(2) by Hon. Millie Odhiambo withdrawn)The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Before we move to the next clause, I will put the global question on this. (Clause 33 as amended agreed to)...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I do not know whether it is in order for me to move the amendments by Hon. Anthony on clause 35 (2) . The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Not yet. We have only prosecuted one. We are moving step by step. He read...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I beg to move: THAT, Clause 35 of the Bill be amended in sub-clause (2) by inserting the word “registered” immediately after the words “may prohibit a”. However, having listened to the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Health on this particular amendment, we are...

I am proposing to amend sub-clause 2 by inserting the word “registered” immediately after the words “may prohibit a”. The amendment seeks to harmonise the Bill in sub-clause (2) where it defines the term, “registered pharmacist.” So, this is just to make it harmonious. (Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose spoke off...

No. I am trying to seek the indulgence of Hon. Chairman to look back at sub-clause (2) . Unless you changed it from “registered pharmacist” while I was not here…. The amendment seeks to harmonise and ensure that we are also still talking about registered pharmacists. Therefore, I am proposing...

Yes.

Okay. (Question, that the word to be inserted be inserted, put and agreed to) Clause 35 (3) The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Hon. Chairperson.

THAT, Clause 35 of the Bill be amended in sub-clause (4) by inserting the following new Paragraph (d) — “ (d) unless the purchaser or patient is first informed of the same and agrees to the change.” (Question of the amendment proposed)

I seek the Chair’s further indulgence on this. I support what Hon. Nyikal has said. I am looking at a situation where one is prescribing alternative medication for a patient and they would need to consult with the doctor who gave that prescription. Would it not be in good order...

THAT, the Bill be amended by deleting Clause 36. Hon. Temporary Chairlady, the reason for that is what we have already talked about here. It is to remove herbal medicines from the scope of the Bill as the proposed Clause 3 (2) adopted by the Committee so that traditional and...

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I would wish for us to go on record because Hon. Millie also had an amendment on the same Clause. The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Which Clause? Clause 36. The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari) : When it is deleted, it is gone. Can we...

THAT, Clause 39 of the Bill be amended in sub-clause (4) by inserting the words “or pharmaceutical technologists” immediately after the words “a Registered Pharmacist”. (Question of the amendment proposed)

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I beg to move: THAT, Clause 41 of the Bill be amended in sub-clause (1) by inserting the words “or pharmaceutical technologists” immediately after the words “a pharmacist” appearing in paragraph (b) ”. (Question of the amendment proposed) The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari) :...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I beg to move: 4th June 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 65 THAT, Clause 41 of the Bill be amended in sub-clause (1) by inserting the words “enrolled pharmaceutical technologist and registered pharmacist” immediately after the word “practitioner” appearing in paragraph (d). The Temporary Chairlady (Hon....

I need further clarification from the Hon. Chairperson. This particular Act is speaking to wholesale dealers. Since this case is specific to wholesale dealers, are we alienating the retail pharmacists? When you exclude pharmacists, you are saying that retail pharmacists will not have access to this. Kindly explain for my...

Thank you, Hon. Chairlady. Given the explanation by the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Health, I wish to drop the amendment. (Proposed amendment to Clause 41 by Hon. Millie Odhiambo-Mabona dropped) The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Thank you. (Proposed amendments to Clause 41 by Hon. Peter Kaluma...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. THAT, Clause 42 of the Bill be amended by—

THAT, Clause 42 of the Bill be amended by— Okay. Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 42 of the Bill be amended by—

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I beg to move: THAT, Clause 43 of the Bill be amended in sub-clause (3) by deleting the words “one hundred thousand” and substituting therefore the words “one million”. (Question of the amendment proposed) The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Hon. Chairman.

THAT, Clause 44 of the Bill be amended in sub-clause (3) by deleting the words “two hundred thousand” and substituting therefor the words “one million”.

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I have been requested to explain the amendment. We seek to delete the word “two hundred’ and substitute it 4th June 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 71 with ‘one million’. The reasoning behind this amendment is to make the punishment more punitive to ensure that we establish order.(Question...

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Hon. Mayaka, what is out of order? Hon. Temporary Chairlady, before you suggest that the amendment falls, I would like to bring to your attention that we are prosecuting two different issues on the same...

Yes, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. (Clause 45 as amended agreed to) Clause 46 The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Chairperson.

THAT, the Bill be amended by deleting Clause 54. (Question of the amendment proposed) The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Hon. Chairman.

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, before I decide on whether or not to withdraw this amendment, I would really like to hear the justification the Chairman has on this so that it makes sense to me. The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Chairman.

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, yes. I would like to state that the Chairman has now done subsequent amendments that define that. My worry was that we cannot have a gazette notice being done without laid down procedure. Because the subsequent clauses explain this, then I am okay dropping that. The Temporary...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I stand to express my complete disappointment that seven Hon. Members averted the will of very many Members of this House. I am disappointed on behalf of farmers, not only in Nyamira but also in Kenya. Article 153 of the Constitution is very clear. Cabinet Secretaries...

Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg the indulgence of the Chairman on this particular matter. If there are any persons that are affected by droughts, it is women and children. In most circumstances, they do not have rescue centres where they can go to. We saw scenarios of children on the...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. I just want to commend the Chairperson of the Committee for this amendment. This is very progressive. At least, we are taking cognizance of both genders when we are addressing some of these matters. So, I support this amendment. (Question, that the words to be...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. I just want to support this particular amendment. I support it because the practice that we even have in most companies and organisations is that in instances of emergency, they have designated places where people are asked to assemble. It is then easy for them...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I second. (Question proposed)

Hon. Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Transport and Infrastructure regarding the state of infrastructure at the Jomo Kenyatta International Airport (JKIA) . Hon. Speaker, Jomo Kenyatta International Airport...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I also rise to support the Report by the Chairperson, who is a colleague in the accounting world. The Leader of the Majority Party alluded to BEPS that are currently being used in the world. I would like to invite us to have a look…...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I stand to support this Motion. Indeed, I had a similar Motion because this is a matter that has really affected many Kenyans. Before I give my remarks on this Motion, firstly, I express my sincere condolences to all the Kenyans who have lost their...

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Hon. Mayaka, what is out of order? Hon. Temporary Speaker, is it in order for the senior Member of Parliament to mislead this House by telling us that money is going to be allocated, yet we know it was already allocated? Can...

On a point of order, Hon. Speaker. Yes, Hon. Irene Mayaka. Hon. Speaker, thank you for the opportunity. I just want to raise a point of concern; that I raised a Statement here to the Departmental Committee on Social Protection on the current status of Anti-FGM on 12th March, and...