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Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, laws must be consistent; two-thirds is not known to law. Everywhere you look from women representatives, gender equity or composition of the House, you cannot reach two-thirds! There is no law anywhere which requires that people should have a threshold of two-thirds....

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Probably, I will whip the House to defeat that amendment. Then, we can go paragraph by paragraph, so that when we come to Clause 2 (c) , we approve it. Simple. Either he withdraws or we defeat it, and when we come to Clause 2...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, thank you very much for indulging us because we are making law for posterity. This is an important matter. We have agreed that the law is a third threshold. Hon. Timothy raised the issue. Hon. Tongoyo also spoke about initiation of the...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. (The House resumed) IN THE HOUSE 1st July 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 18 CONSIDERATION OF REPORT ON THE COUNTY GOVERNMENTS (AMENDMENT) BILL The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai) The Temporary Chairlady,

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) I Second.

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to second the Bill at the Third Reading. We had interesting moments as we consulted across the House. At the end of the day, Hon. Timothy was gracious enough to understand the direction we were taking. Equally, Hon. Tongoyo and...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Thank you so much, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for those kind words. I was a Presiding Officer until I blew the whistle and I have learnt all these terms. Hon. Timothy should learn the good things here. Do not blow a whistle. If you blow a...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai) Hon. TJ, what is out of order? Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Hon. Temporary Speaker, something is not right. We came this morning and in the Order Paper there was...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, laws must be consistent; two-thirds is not known to law. Everywhere you look from women representatives, gender equity or composition of the House, you cannot reach two-thirds! There is no law anywhere which requires that people should have a threshold of two-thirds....

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Probably, I will whip the House to defeat that amendment. Then, we can go paragraph by paragraph, so that when we come to Clause 2 (c) , we approve it. Simple. Either he withdraws or we defeat it, and when we come to Clause 2...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, thank you very much for indulging us because we are making law for posterity. This is an important matter. We have agreed that the law is a third threshold. Hon. Timothy raised the issue. Hon. Tongoyo also spoke about initiation of the...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. (The House resumed) IN THE HOUSE 1st July 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 18 CONSIDERATION OF REPORT ON THE COUNTY GOVERNMENTS (AMENDMENT) BILL The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai) The Temporary Chairlady,

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) I Second.

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to second the Bill at the Third Reading. We had interesting moments as we consulted across the House. At the end of the day, Hon. Timothy was gracious enough to understand the direction we were taking. Equally, Hon. Tongoyo and...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Thank you so much, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for those kind words. I was a Presiding Officer until I blew the whistle and I have learnt all these terms. Hon. Timothy should learn the good things here. Do not blow a whistle. If you blow a...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai) Hon. TJ, what is out of order? Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Hon. Temporary Speaker, something is not right. We came this morning and in the Order Paper there was...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) I am fully cognizant and following the debate. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. Peter Kaluma) : I have still granted Hon. Millie an opportunity to contribute. Doing this disturbs operations by fishermen a lot, especially in your constituency. For corrupt practices, a person will say “No...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Mudfish.

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Hon. Temporary Chairman, I want to make a general comment on the design and textual approach in this Bill, especially in the new clauses and the existing clauses. (Hon. Kangongo Bowen consulted with Hon. Caroli Omondi along the gangways) I would like the Chair to...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Hon. Speaker, fair administration action is a constitutional matter. We also passed a law that regulates that constitutional right to every Kenyan. Issues of powers and privileges are serious in this House. As you know, some of the most high-ranking Members of this House compose...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) I am also waiting to join this council of elders. I guess it is the reason I am being asked to second the Motion. I have been around for quite some time. I second the Motion. This is the best it can get. We had...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Hon. Deputy Speaker, I woke up early this morning with vigour and energy to come and support my brother from Mathare. I must appreciate him for debating this matter very ably. You see the resources that are coming from Mathare. They are not just deep...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) No, I am waiting for the next one.

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) I thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me this opportunity. I thank the Chair of the Public Petitions Committee for finding favour to call upon me to second even though I am not a member of this Committee. I have read the report by...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, UDA) Hon. Temporarily Speaker, I knew that the Member of Dagoretti South Constituency was confusing Dagoretti with Embakasi when I heard him rising to welcome the young people. (Laughter) The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai) Make that point in half a minute. Hon. TJ Kajwang’...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) No, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I am waiting to contribute to the next matter in the Order Paper.

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I thank the Deputy Leader of the Majority Party for the guidance. This is a very important Bill for the justice sector. We are discussing retirement of and pension scheme for judges. Ordinarily, this would be moved by the Leader...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) On a point of information, Hon. Deputy Speaker.

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Someone who is looking for a partner over the age of 70 is called a gold-digger. (Loud consultations) 19th November 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 31 Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM)A certified version of this ReportHon. Caroli Omondi (Suba South, ODM): Hon. Deputy Speaker, I do...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’(Ruaraka, ODM) For a moment. I thought my Party Leader, here, was propping me up for failure. I can hold brief for my Chairman. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Bring the response the first week after we come from recess. Hon. TJ Kajwang’(Ruaraka, ODM) That is alright.

I have not spoken, but that does not mean I do not have anything to say. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. Farah Maalim) : Proceed, Hon. Kajwang’. Hon. Temporary Chairman, let us be careful here. There are two things that come to my mind. Firstly, the proposer of this amendment is...

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Chairman. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. Farah Maalim) : Yes, what is your point of order, Hon. Kajwang’? Hon. Temporary Chairman, before we begin, I see an error in the Order Paper which I am sure was a mistake. In page 2405, there are...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) : Nowadays, when either KURA or KeRRA constructs a road, county governments often file paperwork indicating that they are responsible for that road. Therefore, we should consider going digital and incorporating digital buttons that would prevent any level of government from accessing funds for a...

Let me attempt to answer. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) : Yes. Sometimes I get very persuasive with my brother, and I am sure I will in this case. I want to assuage his concerns. Firstly, a road, just like a human being or any other thing, should be...

Hon. Temporary Chairman, I would like to underline the importance of this amendment. This is what this House has always said. Other than the percentages that my learned friend is talking about, I would like to look at amendment 2B which states that: “The Board shall not approve any disbursement...

The county governments will not be able to access the Consolidated Fund unless they have satisfied the Cabinet Secretary that they have done those things. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. Farah Maalim) : That they have done the job? No. That they have opened an account at the Central Bank of...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee of the whole House in the said report. I request Hon. Komingoi to second the Motion in agreement with the Report of the Committee of the whole House.

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) I have not spoken, but that does not mean I do not have anything to say. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. Farah Maalim) : Proceed, Hon. Kajwang’. Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Hon. Temporary Chairman, let us be careful here. There are two things that come...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Chairman. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. Farah Maalim) : Yes, what is your point of order, Hon. Kajwang’? Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Hon. Temporary Chairman, before we begin, I see an error in the Order Paper which I...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Nowadays, when either KURA or KeRRA constructs a road, county governments often file paperwork indicating that they are responsible for that road. Therefore, we should consider going digital and incorporating digital buttons that would prevent any level of government from accessing funds for a road...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Let me attempt to answer. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) Yes. Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Sometimes I get very persuasive with my brother, and I am sure I will in this case. I want to assuage his concerns. Firstly, a road, just like...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Hon. Temporary Chairman, I would like to underline the importance of this amendment. This is what this House has always said. Other than the 2nd October 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 61 Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM)percentages that my learned friend is talking about, I would...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee of the whole House in the said report. I request Hon. Komingoi to second the Motion in agreement with the Report of the Committee of the whole House.

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. What is out of order, Hon. TJ Kajwang’? Hon. Temporary Speaker, the Member for Migori County is armed with very good notes, which are relevant to the proceedings. The House is in the mood to learn today. Could she turn those good...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, my console was on during my point of order, but I cannot miss something to say in support of this Motion. I first congratulate the Mover and her Committee for doing what this House is meant for. This House works in committees to oversee agencies and that...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I wish to invite the gentlemen from Homa Bay Town. I am surprised they did not come in a constitutionally balanced manner, as the gender composition is not complete. I am confident they will strive to achieve a constitutionally representative delegation next time. Hon. Temporary Speaker, I...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) What is out of order, Hon. TJ Kajwang’? Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Hon. Temporary Speaker, the Member for Migori County is armed with very good notes, which are relevant to...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Hon. Temporary Speaker, my console was on during my point of order, but I cannot miss something to say in support of this Motion. I first congratulate the Mover and her Committee for doing what this House is meant for. This House works in committees...

Hon. TJ Kajwang’ (Ruaraka, ODM) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I wish to invite the gentlemen from Homa Bay Town. I am surprised they did not come in a constitutionally balanced manner, as the gender composition is not complete. I am confident they will strive to achieve a constitutionally representative delegation next...