OMONDI CAROLI

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I have the pleasure to second. Thank you very much. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) (The Bill was accordingly read 29th July 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 16 A certified version of this Reporta Third Time and passed)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I am Member for Suba South. Let me just take that again, for the record. The Member for Suba South. Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I rise to contribute to this Motion. I am not fully in support of it. I have carefully looked at...

Yes, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I thank you for that information, Hon. Sabina Chege. That would be the right 23rd July 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 38 approach, but it would not be right to make it mandatory. It should be an option, so that if I wanted to...

On a point of information, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

On a point of information, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

Thank you very much, Hon. Gideon Mulyungi. It is true that we worked very well. It is also true that I am his lawyer and he also consults me on other matters as well. I want to inform the Hon. Chairman that last week, the Committee on Constitutional Implementation had...

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Hon. Caroli Omondi, what is out of order? Hon. Temporary Speaker, could the expert in the House quickly get us the KNBS census reports of 2009 and 2019 so that we see what ethnic groups are captured. This is because we know...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, the Constitution clearly recognises that we have ethnic groups or nationalities in this country. We may argue about who they are or what their names are, but that recognition exists. We all understand what ethnic grouping is, whether we use local laws or international instruments. However, let...

The Constitution does not list them. The only agency that has done a census that speaks to them is the KNBS. There is no other document.

Thank you very much, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I just want to raise a few issues on the accuracy of some of the statements in this Report. I also invite the Committee to inform the House as to why they cannot report on additional matters that I think are pertinent to...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. My friend, Hon. Toroitich, and I have really waited for this opportunity to get to this Order. This is another Bill from the Senate. I rise to express my reservations about certain provisions on it, and also acknowledge the very heavy challenges it presents to...

Okay. 11th June 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 73 Do not worry about time, your time is frozen on this element. I did not bring my Constitution today. What Members do not know is that you served in the Executive. So, you are the heart of most of these pieces of...

Thank you. The interpretation of that particular clause, is what I have given: That there are two pathways to elective office in the Republic of Kenya. Multipartyism does not mean multiplicity of political parties, it means multiplicity of options to contest for elections and to win or lose. [The Temporary...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I am not misinterpreting the law. I will give you a few more minutes. Proceed and get to the substance of the matter. The association he is referring to has not been reduced to writing and recognized within the framework of the Political Parties Act by the...

Thank you. To summarise, I would urge Members that we objectively, look at this Bill. Creating a three-member commission to run the Political Parties Fund (PPF) is an overkill. Actually, this is presenting ourselves as a very special class of people in Kenya, that we can have a commission established...

I do not know the exact number, but there is a problem today... I can tell you how many there are. Yes. There are about four. Four? Yes. That is the problem that we are having in the UK, the United States of America (USA) , and where a few...

Yes. The Liberal Democrats and the Independents. I am sure there could be more, because the last time I checked, there was a political party called Make Politicians History Political Party. How many political parties are there in the USA? There are two dominant ones, but that is the problem....

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, the distinguished gentleman from Homa Bay Town is forgetting… The distinguished, Hon. Member. The distinguished Member of Homa Bay Town is forgetting that they were holding rallies against me when I extended a hand of friendship to the President. They are doing the same thing a year...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I just want to support what Hon. Toroitich is saying. In the House of Commons or Parliament of Canada or Parliament of Australia, there is somewhere called Crossbench. Their sitting arrangement is 11th June 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 82 similar to ours. The Majority sit on one...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, the Political Parties Act states that 70 per cent of the Political Parties Fund should be distributed according to the number of votes that the candidates of a political party received in various electoral positions such as a Member of a County Assembly (MCA) , a governor...

I am right on this one. I can read the law. Let us get the Political Parties Act and read the law. The law clearly states that 70 per cent of the Political Parties Fund will be distributed according to the number of votes each party garnered. In this case,...

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. What is your point of order, Hon. Caroli? Is the Member in order to mislead the House that a person who runs as an independent candidate does not have an ideology, yet the Constitution contemplates even having a president elected in this...

On a point of information, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, in Australia, a Commonwealth Country, both political parties and independent candidates are funded by the State. 11th June 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 86

You are spot on. There is mischief in our Political Parties Act (PPA) . The description of political party funding is not there while it is there in Australia. We have already captured that in the proposed amendments. We are describing political party funding for the first time. It is...

Thank you very much, Hon. Chairlady. I am quite interested in being updated or apprised on whether we have made provision for issuance of ID cards to students while still in school free of charge in the ensuing Financial Year. I would like to hear that from the Chairperson of...

I am not satisfied. It would have been better if the Chairperson told us how much provision they have made for the issuance of ID cards to students in school, and what the shortfall is so that we can prepare ourselves other than having a generalised answer. Thank you, Hon....

Hon. Temporary Chairman, thank you very much. I just want to put it on record and, maybe, seek your guidance. The earlier estimates that were submitted to this House last week, under this particular Vote Item, under the Third Schedule… I cannot see the page! But on something called Muozi...

I am not belabouring it. I just want to put it on record that there is no concomitant increment as of now. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. David Ochieng’) : He said that he wants to check that. Hon. Caroli Omondi (Suba South, ODM) : Thank you. (Programmes 1014000, 015000, 1022000...

Hon. Temporary Chairman, I note with very serious concern that there is a reduction in the Vote for the Ministry of Agriculture and Livestock. From what was presented last week, there is a reduction, but it is being termed as an increment. It says: ”An increase of Ksh50 million for...

Hon. Temporary Chairman, my question was… The Temporary Chairman (Hon. David Ochieng’) : Hon. Wanyonyi, I thought… Hon. Caroli Omondi (Suba South, ODM) : Last week… The Temporary Chairman (Hon. David Ochieng’) : A minute, Hon. Caroli. I thought you were answering the question by Hon. Caroli on the Tsetse...

Hon. Temporary Chairman, you gave us time to consult with the Hon. Chairperson for the Departmental Committee on the Blue Economy and Irrigation, together with the Hon. Chairperson of the Budget and Appropriations Committee on the question I had asked about the reduction of Ksh10 million shillings from the Muozi...

Thank you very much, Hon. Chairlady. I am quite interested in being updated or apprised on whether we have made provision for issuance of ID cards to students while still in school free of charge in the ensuing Financial Year. I would like to hear that from the Chairperson of...

I am not satisfied. It would have been better if the Chairperson told us how much provision they have made for the issuance of ID cards to students in school, and what the shortfall is so that we can prepare ourselves other than having a generalised answer. Thank you, Hon....

Hon. Temporary Chairman, thank you very much. I just want to put it on record and, maybe, seek your guidance. The earlier estimates that were submitted to this House last week, under this particular Vote Item, under the Third Schedule… I cannot see the page! But on something called Muozi...

I am not belabouring it. I just want to put it on record that there is no concomitant increment as of now. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. David Ochieng’) : He said that he wants to check that. Thank you. (Programmes 1014000, 015000, 1022000 and 1023000 agreed to) (Vote 1104 agreed...

Hon. Temporary Chairman, I note with very serious concern that there is a reduction in the Vote for the Ministry of Agriculture and Livestock. From what was presented last week, there is a reduction, but it is being termed as an increment. It says: ”An increase of Ksh50 million for...

Hon. Temporary Chairman, my question was… The Temporary Chairman (Hon. David Ochieng’) : Hon. Wanyonyi, I thought… Last week… The Temporary Chairman (Hon. David Ochieng’) : A minute, Hon. Caroli. I thought you were answering the question by Hon. Caroli on the Tsetse fly reduction. (A Member spoke off the...

On a point of order, Hon. Speaker.

Hon. Speaker, it is important that he confirms to the House that, being an elder of Njuri Ncheke, his apology is accepted everywhere and by all. Thank you.

Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker. I would like to joyride on Hon. K’Oyoo's question. pursuant to Articles 35 and 201 of the Constitution, Section 23 of the Parliamentary Powers and Privileges Act and our Standing Orders, I ask the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Agriculture and Livestock to...

Hon. Speaker, my question relates to the nucleus estate of Miwani Sugar, which has not been... That is okay. I have given direction. Okay. Thank you, Hon. Speaker.

On a point of order, Hon. Speaker.

Hon. Speaker, it is important that he confirms to the House that, being an elder of Njuri Ncheke, his apology is accepted everywhere and by all. Thank you.

Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker. I would like to joyride on Hon. K’Oyoo's question. pursuant to Articles 35 and 201 of the Constitution, Section 23 of the Parliamentary Powers and Privileges Act and our Standing Orders, I ask the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Agriculture and Livestock to...

Hon. Speaker, my question relates to the nucleus estate of Miwani Sugar, which has not been... That is okay. I have given direction. Okay. Thank you, Hon. Speaker.

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. What is your point of order? Hon. Temporary Speaker, the Member for Homa Bay Town is actually misleading the House. The premier mind on law of the sea was the late Akich Okola, former Deputy Solicitor General, who attended all the negotiations...

Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me the opportunity to contribute to this Bill. I will begin by observing that the proposed Political Parties (Amendment) (No.2) Bill (Senate Bill No.26 of 2024) can only be described as one of the most insensitive Bills to public interest that...

Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me the opportunity to contribute to this Bill. I will begin by observing that the proposed Political Parties (Amendment) (No.2) Bill (Senate Bill No.26 of 2024) can only be described as one of the most insensitive Bills to public interest that...

I am trying to remember my admission number, Hon. Speaker. I attended the University of Nairobi’s Faculty of Law. I also join my colleagues in welcoming the students of The University of Nairobi. I acknowledge that on 26th May 2025, GPR 3104, Social Foundations of Law and Development, is an...

I am trying to remember my admission number, Hon. Speaker. I attended the University of Nairobi’s Faculty of Law. I also join my colleagues in welcoming the students of The University of Nairobi. I acknowledge that on 26th May 2025, GPR 3104, Social Foundations of Law and Development, is an...

Hon. Speaker, it is quite unfortunate that we do not have the Chair of the Departmental Committee on Agriculture and Livestock. However, so much is happening in the sugar sector that is causing a lot of disquiet to farmers and other stakeholders. The Chair has to take this matter very...