OMONDI CAROLI

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. We are addressing the right issue, but probably focusing on the wrong people. It is up to this House to decide whether in this country, we should have school uniforms, because they are not mandatory in many jurisdictions. And if we insist that we must...

No.

Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I rise on behalf of the Member for Yatta, Hon. Robert Basil, to ask the following Question: Could the Cabinet Secretary—

Thank you very much. That is a very elaborate answer. I have one further clarification to seek on the first question on P1 teachers. There was an element of salary arrears which the Cabinet Secretary did not address. Fair enough. That is the only matter I have.

Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker. First, it is wrong for a Statement of this nature, on a matter like this one, to come from the principal secretary, who is my friend. I feel I have a responsibility to try and assist. Yesterday, we were at the police station with...

Hon. Speaker, I have not accused anybody. I am saying that in terms of fairness and truthfulness, and to protect the Principal Secretary, Mr Raymond Omollo, he should not have been the one to write that Statement to this House. This is because the victim of that violent attack has...

On a point of information, Hon. Speaker.

It is important that we set the record straight. Yesterday we were at the police station. This particular lady came to record her own statement. She works for Sen. Osotsi and they were meeting that morning to plan for a football tournament. There is no love triangle. And even if...

Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker. I rise to support this Bill. Where is Hon. Owen Baya? When Hon. Caroli finishes, it will be his time to reply. I would like to note a few issues. I think the Government is only committing Ksh6 billion out of the Ksh17 billion...

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. What is out of order again? Hon. Caroli, I cannot even see your card. I hope your card is working today. It is here, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, is the gracious lady in order to describe what in law amounts to robbery with violence as ordinary theft? When you take somebody’s property using force or threatening to use force, it is defined as ‘robbery with violence.’ That is what it is in law. It is...

Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Let me begin by congratulating Hon. Anthony Oluoch for not just bringing a very innovative Bill, but also taking his time to educate us about these APBET schools. One of the greatest inequities in this country is that, our youth do not have...

Hon. Deputy Speaker, I did raise a question about the leasing of the sugar mills, but no response was ever given. I asked it a second time. Since I now have an opportunity, please allow me to ask one or two supplementary questions or make some comments. We are dealing...

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. That was the spirit in which I was speaking because it is a matter of public interest. Actually, under Article 35, the entire investment package for the leases should have been presented to this House for Members to interrogate. The final question I would like...

Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I actually rise to support this Bill. I think it is a far better improvement on what existed before, and there has been a lot of public participation. However, I have some concerns that I would like to raise. Firstly, in terms of...

Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker. I will be very brief. Let me begin by acknowledging the very extensive work that has been done in this matter. The criteria are quite elaborate. I am very pleased with it, to say the least. However, I was just wondering whether we could...

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I rise under Standing Order 89 to enquire whether it is in order for this House to debate a matter that is active in a court of law, and on which the court has already pronounced itself; whether we have the correct interpretation of the Powers and...

On a point of order, Hon. Speaker.

Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker. I rise under Standing Order 89 to inquire whether it is in order for this matter to proceed, given that there is a pending court case, HCCHRPET/E051 of 2026, in which the court consolidated three petitions and noted that they raised substantial questions of...

Our Standing Orders clearly state that we are precluded from discussing such a matter. That is what I was raising, and for the benefit of the House, I am here ready to table both the court ruling and the orders so that the House is seized of the court's decision....

And I opposed it.

Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. This has been a very useful debate. I thank Hon. Ndindi Nyoro for the very articulate contributions. Safaricom’s shareholding structure is currently as follows: Government of Kenya (GoK) is at 35 per cent while Vodacom is at 40 per cent. However, by their...

I will not even answer that. Let me go on with my presentation. The second thing... (Laughter)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, there is a phraseology, “due and payable”, which may not be payable. That is law. The shares could have crystalised, but that does not mean you will be paid. That is why I suggest that it should be very clear that the effective date is when the...

Of course. That is my future running mate. (Laughter) 11th March 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 62

I have three minutes, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Secondly, we are told that this valuation was done by Kenya Commercial Bank (KCB) ; another government agency. No arm's length transaction. A big problem. Additionally, that valuation was not subjected to competition, the way it would happen in open market. Let me...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, it is there but the time limit is three years. After three years, they can be fired. That is what the original Sessional Paper told us. That is what it did. (Loud consultations)

No. Can they tell us for how long? Hon. Temporary Speaker...

Of course. In transactions like this, there are time limits and time provisions. People may not be happy when Hon. Ndindi Nyoro talks of incompetence. But the word competence is also used in law and in our national values. Competence is one of them. The opposite of that is incompetence.

Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker. I rise to oppose the proposed legislation on constitutional grounds. I want to pose a question on the constitutionality of this particular Bill. In particular, I am struggling to determine which provision of the Constitution this proposed Fund seeks to actualise or operationalise. In...

Yes. Section 25 of this proposed Bill talks about Government support measures, binding undertakings, letters of support, letters of credit, credit guarantees and similar instruments. If that section is read together with Article 214 of the Constitution of Kenya, where public debt is described, it becomes clear that, for purposes...

On a point of information, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, and Hon. Member. I just wish to inform him that I fully agree and share his sentiments that we should not be kneeling to get development. The only problem with this Bill is that there is no parliamentary process for approving infrastructure projects that the...