Baya Owen Yaa

Hon. Ruku has always used the issue of muguka to win votes in his place, but I warn him that this time round, it will not happen. There is something called legislative mischief. Hon. Ruku participated in sneaking a definition of muguka in the regulations. This Parliament will cure the...

I will inform him. I think he is currently appearing before the Liaison Committee. Once he is done, I will ensure he gets the request for statement. How long will this take? Give us two weeks, specifically after the recess. Is it possible to get an answer during the first...

Yes, first week after the recess, we will have a response. I will inform the Chairman. Thank you. Much obliged.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I would like to ask Question 001/2025 to the Teachers Service Commission (TSC) :

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move the following Procedural Motion: THAT, this House resolves to exempt the business appearing as Order Nos.9 and 10 in today’s Order Paper from the provisions of Standing Order 40 (3) , being a Wednesday Morning, a day allocated for business not sponsored by...

On a point of order. Hon. Baya, this is your Motion. So, what is your point of order? Hon. Dawood, let us hear what Hon. Baya has to say. Hon. Temporary Speaker, it is very sad… Is it a point of order or do you want to argue? It is...

Yes, but once in a while. (Hon. Owen Baya stood up in his place)

Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me an opportunity to contribute to the BPS. The BPS is usually the 12th March 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 39 foundation of the budget and the financial year. It speaks to the money envelope that is available for the Financial Year...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I would like to get that report, so that our country does not continue to lose money. One important thing that the BPS does is to allocate funds to the Equalisation Fund as well as funds to clear the pending arrears. The Equalisation Fund is...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. You represent both your constituency and the country at large. Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. As I welcome the students from Roysambu… Look at this side. You are welcome to the National Assembly. This is the august House where policy, certain rules and...

Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker. I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table:

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I would also like to joyride on the same request for a Statement. I will just say one thing. I request the Committee in charge to ensure that there is sufficient budget. We can speak and ask all these questions but we should know that. I...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker, for giving me this opportunity to contribute to the Second Supplementary Budget Estimates for the Financial Year 2024/2025. Supplementary Budgets are usually provided even when the year is ending, especially when some areas need money. I remember when Hon. John Mbadi, Emeritus Leader of the Minority...

I thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. This is why we are allocating money to resuscitate 'these small universities' so they can become big, like the University of Nairobi or the famous Kenyatta University. We are doing this so that they get to that level. So, stay put. We are resuscitating...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table: For the record, you have skipped letter (y) . Sorry, Hon. Speaker. Letter (z) is Tumutumu Girls High School.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me this opportunity to contribute to the County Governments Additional Allocations Bill, 2025. This is a very important piece of legislation because, as Parliament and as a country, we must enable counties to operate. Counties can only operate when they have funds. They...

Yes. I can always be informed by a professor.

Thank you for the information, Professor. When you are informed by a professor, you become more enlightened. The counties were selected based on the progress made towards project completion. This brings me to a very important point. Some counties have received CAIP funds but have not done anything yet. You...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, the Member who is on the Floor is my friend. He is a good Member of Parliament. I just want to inform him that Nyeri County may not have an allocation because they have not adequately used their previously allocated funds, or there was no counterpart contribution...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, in terms of court fines, certain counties have established courts. Court fines are generated from the county governments’ courts. The county governments have established their own courts. There is a county court at Treasury Square in Mombasa County. Fines that are generated from the county courts should...

Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker. I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table: Reports of the Auditor-General and Financial Statements of the National Governments Constituencies Development (NG-CDF) for the year ended 30th June 2024 and the certificates therein in respect of:

Yes. Ensure they bring a response in two weeks. Much obliged, Hon. Speaker.

Much obliged, Hon. Speaker.

Hon. Speaker, I agree with Hon. Sabina. However, Ash Wednesday is not only exclusive to Catholics. Pardon? Ash Wednesday is not exclusive to Catholics. Even the Anglicans celebrate Ash Wednesday. Today at 6.00 O'clock, we will have our Ash Wednesday service at All-Saints Cathedral. Therefore, I want to wish all...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I wish to...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I beg to move: THAT, pursuant to the provisions of Section 43 (4) of the National Government Constituency Development Fund Act, 2015 and paragraphs 5 (2) and (10) of the National Government Constituencies Development Fund Regulations, 2016, this House approves the list of nominees for appointment...

Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me an opportunity to contribute to the Medium-Term Debt Management Strategy Paper. It is high time that this country implemented the TSA strategy. That way, we will ensure that Government money remains Government money, and the Government will not have to...

Yes, 2036. So, we dig a new hole to cover an existing hole. We then dig a bigger hole to cover an even deeper hole. We have many incomplete projects in this country that we cannot claim proprietorship of yet we have borrowed. According to a Citizen TV news broadcast...

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. The Hon. Member, having shifted from her usual desk to the other side of the aisle, has been in this Parliament for a long time. She knows very well that there is a procedure for adjournment. We ask her to follow that procedure. Some things...

I appreciate Hon. Ruku's frustration. I commit that in two weeks’ time, he will have a statement that answers the questions that he has raised. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

I am much obliged, Hon. Temporary Speaker. However, I would like Hon. Ngogoyo to appreciate that Cabinet Secretaries will only come to the House if there are Questions to be responded to, but not requests for statements. What Hon. Ruku has presented is a request for a statement, which gets...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I acknowledge that you may have to give us two weeks to sort out her issue, which is actually in order. The period that we request for is usually two weeks. We will ensure that the Departmental Committee on Transport and Infrastructure, and the Departmental Committee on...

The report will be ready. Fair enough. The statement will be ready. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

Hon. Temporary Speaker…

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. The NG-CDF, as Hon. Makali Mulu has said, is the only Fund that we have that works and has given us results. It has ensured there is equity in this country. Areas that had been left behind have been brought forward because of the NG-CDF....

I am not complaining Hon. Temporary Speaker. I am making very strong statements. You are complaining about the Board and the Management. I am only telling them off. We will summon the Board to appear before the House Business Committee on Tuesday, 11th March 2025. They should prepare for that...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I appreciate Hon. Jared Okello’s passion and leadership on this matter. Sincerely, he has raised this matter several times. The Speaker had directed that it should be brought to this Chamber three Wednesdays ago. I have had consultation with Hon. Okello. I want to report that I...

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. What is out of order, Hon. Baya? (Laughter) Hon. Temporary Speaker, activities have names. This is a House of proper records and specifics. Please tell us the ‘activities’ that happen in police officers' homes that cause people not to sleep.

Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table: Reports of the Auditor-General and Financial Statements for the year ended 30th June 2024 and the certificates therein for the following institutions:

Hon. Speaker, I would like to make some remarks regarding this Petition. First, I would like to express my support for Hon. Bwire, a young and vibrant Member for Taveta Constituency, on the recognition of the Pare people as Kenyans. The Pare are similar to the Makonde and Wanyasa from...

Hon. Speaker, I have proposed amendments to the Citizenship Act, which are currently before the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Affairs. This aims to establish a framework for recognising all Kenyans.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I beg to lay these important Papers, which are part of the budget cycle, on the Table of the House:

Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table: 13th February 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 3

Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker. I beg to move the Procedural Motion on the Limitation of Debate. No. We are still on Statements. I do not have a Question. Do you have your usual leadership Statement on Thursdays regarding the business of the week and the following week? Okay,...

All right, thank you very much. As Hon. Jared Okello rightly put it, this matter was raised here in the last Session not less than three or four times. Yes, Hon. Speaker.

I am much obliged, Hon. Speaker.

Hon. Speaker, I have immense capacity. Hon. CNN failed to take off a plane even after being trained for eight years as a pilot. So, we can continue to doubt his ability as a failed pilot. I have heard and we will ensure that the House is well informed. I...

Hon. CNN, I am usually very alert. I can multitask.

Hon. Speaker, I beg to move the following Motion: THAT, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 97 (1) , this House orders that each speech in a debate on Bills sponsored by a committee, the Leader of the Majority Party or the Leader of the Minority Party be limited...

Thank you very much, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I wish the Members who are leaving would stay because this is very important. Whip of the Majority Party, whip the Members to come back because we need them. It is a very important Motion. You are failing at your job. Yes. This...

Hon. Deputy Speaker, I beg to move the following Procedural Motion: THAT, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 97 (1) , this House orders that each speech in a debate on any Motion, including a Special motion be limited in the following manner: A maximum of three hours with...

Hon Deputy Speaker, I beg to move the following Procedural Motion: THAT, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 97 (1) , this House orders that each speech in debate on Reports of Audit Committees be limited as follows: A maximum of 60 minutes for the Mover in moving and...

Hon Deputy Speaker, I beg to move the following Procedural Motion: THAT, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 97 (1) , this House orders that each speech in a debate on Other Committee Reports, including a Report of a Joint Committee of the Houses of Parliament or any other...

I beg to move: THAT, noting that Standing Order 24 (6) provides that debate on a Motion on the Address by the President shall be limited to not more than Four Sitting days, and pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 97 (1) , this House orders that debate on...

I beg to move: THAT, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 97 (1) , this House orders that each speech in a debate on any Sessional Paper shall be limited as follows: A maximum of two and a half hours, with not more than 20 minutes for the Mover...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move the following Procedural Motion: THAT, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 97 (1) , this House orders that each speech in a debate on reports of constitutional commissions and independent offices be limited as follows: A maximum of four hours, with not...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move the following Motion: 13th February 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 20 THAT, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 97(1), this House orders that each speech in a debate on the Report of the Budget and Appropriations Committee on Budget Estimates contemplated under Standing...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move the following Procedural Motion: 13th February 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 21 THAT, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 97(1), this House orders that each speech in the general debate contemplated under Standing Order 146 (Consideration of Senate amendments to Bills originating in...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move the following Procedural Motion: THAT, notwithstanding the provisions of Standing Orders 41 and 42 relating to conveying of Messages from the Senate and from the President or the National Executive, Standing Orders 120, 122 and 126 relating to Publication, Procedure upon Publication and...

Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I know it is a long day for you, but we are managing. Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move the following Procedural Motion: THAT, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 97 (1) , this House orders that each speech in the...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move the following Motion: 13th February 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 24 THAT, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 28, this House approves the Calendar of the National Assembly (Regular Sessions) for the Fourth Session SCHEDULE CALENDAR OF THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY FOR 2025 REGULAR...

Today, I rise to salute a distinguished public officer, Ms Anne Wambui Njoroge, who has recently retired from her position as the Director of Hansard and Audio Services in the National Assembly. Ms Njoroge's journey in the Public Service began on 7th October 1991, when she was first appointed as...

Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table: (Loud consultations)

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I congratulate the members that have been nominated. I also congratulate the Committee for a good job. I want to thank the President, the appointing authority, for considering gender. You can see that we have almost five women in this Commission. That is an excellent step...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. It is very nice to be back in this House after such a break. I know they have missed me here. For the person of Mr Abdi Mohamud, I unequivocally support this Motion. Mr Abdi is one such gentleman, technocrat, a dedicated servant of this...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I am not in the habit of withdrawing, but I want to withdraw that statement because of my respect for the Leader and also because of the statement of fact. Continue, Hon. Owen Baya. You do not have to justify. Just continue. Let me continue. I believe...

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move that the Committee do report to the House its consideration of the Senate amendments to the Statutory Instruments (Amendment) Bill, (National Assembly Bill No.2 of 2023) , and its approval thereof without amendments. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. (Dr)...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report. I also request Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah to second this Motion for agreement with the Report of the Committee of the whole House.

I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table: Reports of the Auditor-General and financial statements for the years ended 30th June 2024 and the certificates therein in respect of:

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Thank you very much, Hon. Caroli Omondi, for raising this issue. You need to use your power, under Standing Order 1, to vet the Bills on whether some must go to the Budget and Appropriations Committee. There are certain Bills that we come up with, but...

Yes.