John Kiarie

Hon. John Kiarie (Dagoretti South, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I join you in welcoming this very impressive delegation of parliamentarians in Scouting and Scouts who are visiting the National Assembly of Kenya. We are coming straight from the opening ceremony of the 11th World Scout Parliamentary Union. Kenya makes...

Hon. John Kiarie (Dagoretti South, UDA) Hon. Speaker, Scouts are very orderly and I apologise and withdraw the chant. This was a chant that probably overflowed. I also apologise on behalf of my guests. We are coming out of the excitement of the opening ceremony. You would understand that excitement....

Hon. John Kiarie (Dagoretti South, UDA) Hon. Speaker, on a point of information.

Hon. John Kiarie (Dagoretti South, UDA) Hon. Speaker, in appreciation of your invitation for our delegation to visit the national parks, I wish to inform the House that the Scouts woke up very early this morning. By 5 a.m., they were up and ready to visit the game park. They...

Hon. John Kiarie (Dagoretti South, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, how do you even start to eulogise a man of the stature of the Right Hon. Eng. (Dr) Raila Amolo Odinga? A man who, he himself, was a force of nature. A man who moved the crowds with a charisma unimaginable....

Hon. John Kiarie (Dagoretti South, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. We are looking forward to the direction that you will give regarding this matter. The debate in this House carries the weight of law. This House cannot debate in vain. We hope that after this conversation, you will get a...

Hon. John Kiarie (Dagoretti South, UDA) Hon. Speaker, the record is correct. I was on the Floor when the House adjourned, and I was debating this Report that had been laid by Hon. Wanjiku Muhia. I had said that even if we are receiving this raft of reports from the...

Hon. John Kiarie (Dagoretti South, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I thank you. I also want to thank the mover and the seconder for bringing such an important Bill to the House. I also want to recognise that the Bill originates from the Senate. I must thank the Leader of the...

Hon. John Kiarie (Dagoretti South, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I stand on the point of order that dictates that a Member is responsible for the veracity of the information they present to the House. I am not keen to interrupt Hon. (Dr) Oundo’s debate. However, is he in order to...

Hon. John Kiarie (Dagoretti South, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, you cannot allow Hon. (Dr) Oundo to continue misleading the House. He claims that there is a clause originating from the Senate. However, the Standing Order you read is very clear that a Money Bill cannot originate from the Senate. It...

Hon. John Kiarie (Dagoretti South, UDA) On a point of information, Hon. Temporary Speaker. 9th October 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 45

Hon. John Kiarie (Dagoretti South, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg that you preserve some time for Hon. Millie Odhiambo. I would wish to inform her that if there is a place with an education crisis in this country, it is within the city. This information is from a Member...

Hon. John Kiarie (Dagoretti South, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I thank you. I thank Hon. Wanjiku Muhia, a very consummate East African who has served in EALA. I also see in the House the Hon. Jematiah Sergon, also a former Member of EALA. A raft of reports has been tabled...

Hon. John Kiarie (Dagoretti South, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I must thank you for prompting Hon. Members to be attentive and listen to what Hon. Alice Wambui has said in this House today. There is a saying that says we never inherit the world from our ancestors; we borrow it...

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Chairperson. The Temporary Chairperson (Hon. Omboko Milemba) : What is your point of order, Hon Kiarie? Thank you, hon. Temporary Chairperson. I know you are up to the task to defend the Hon. Chair. It is not in my place to controvert what...

Hon. Temporary Chairman, I would like to start with clause 2. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. Omboko Milemba): Order, if we are starting with clause 2, then let me allow for it to be called out. Hon. John Kiarie, we shall consider clause 2 at the very end. Please approach the...

I thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. This Committee stands to support the amendment brought by Hon. Aden Daudi for a good reason. The issue Hon. Oundo is raising is to understand that in this new world, there are so many laws that shall be affected by the advancements of the...

What we are observing with the trends is that phishing is becoming the order of the day. We seek to ensure that we deal with the phishing attacks which can be executed by use of hyperlinks that are embedded in multimedia messages or rich communications. Today, you can send a...

On a point of information, Hon. Temporary Chairman. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. Omboko Milemba) : What is the information, Chairman? Hon. Temporary Chairman, it could not have been said better than how our ranking Member has put it in terms of civility but, firstly, rebuttal of what has been said...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to second. (Question proposed)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, the House has done an amazing job this afternoon. We all know the history of the Computer Misuse and Cybercrimes law, starting in 2019 when this House passed it for the first time. It encountered many speed bumps, especially in the courts of justice in the Judiciary....

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I must admit this is quite an innovative suggestion being made by the Member for Langata. As a Committee, we shall take it up. I can see a committee Member here, Hon. Jematiah Sergon. We will expedite it because he is asking for an express counter that...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, the Committee is effective and efficient. If this was the Committee’s business only, he could have received a response by Tuesday. However, you must understand that the request has to be channelled to the Ministry to process it and make responses. We accept that it has to...

Something is totally out of order. Hon. Oundo, deal with any germ that would prevent your elevation. Hon. KJ, why do you not allow Hon. (Dr) Naomi Waqo? There is nothing out of order. Okay, what is out of order? Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. While I appreciate the eloquence,...

Hon. John Kiarie (Dagoretti South, UDA) On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Chairperson. The Temporary Chairperson (Hon. Omboko Milemba) : What is your point of order, Hon Kiarie? Hon. John Kiarie (Dagoretti South, UDA) Thank you, hon. Temporary Chairperson. I know you are up to the task to defend...

Hon. John Kiarie (Dagoretti South, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairman, I would like to start with clause 2. 25th September 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 20 Hon. John Kiarie (Dagoretti South, UDA)The Temporary Chairman (Hon. Omboko Milemba): Order, if we are starting with clause 2, then let me allow for it to...

Hon. John Kiarie (Dagoretti South, UDA) I thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. This Committee stands to support the amendment brought by Hon. Aden Daudi for a good reason. The issue Hon. Oundo is raising is to understand that in this new world, there are so many laws that shall be...

Hon. John Kiarie (Dagoretti South, UDA) What we are observing with the trends is that phishing is becoming the order of the day. We seek to ensure that we deal with the phishing attacks which can be executed by use of hyperlinks that are embedded in multimedia messages or rich...

Hon. John Kiarie (Dagoretti South, UDA)

Hon. John Kiarie (Dagoretti South, UDA)

Hon. John Kiarie (Dagoretti South, UDA On a point of information, Hon. Temporary Chairman. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. Omboko Milemba) : What is the information, Chairman? 25th September 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 27 Hon. John Kiarie (Dagoretti South, UDA Hon. Temporary Chairman, it could not have been said better than...

Hon. John Kiarie (Dagoretti South, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to second. (Question proposed)

Hon. John Kiarie (Dagoretti South, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, the House has done an amazing job this afternoon. We all know the history of the Computer Misuse and Cybercrimes law, starting in 2019 when this House passed it for the first time. It encountered many speed bumps, especially in the...

Hon. John Kiarie (Dagoretti South, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I must admit this is quite an innovative suggestion being made by the Member for Langata. As a Committee, we shall take it up. I can see a committee Member here, Hon. Jematiah Sergon. We will expedite it because he is...

Hon. John Kiarie (Dagoretti South, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, the Committee is effective and efficient. If this was the Committee’s business only, he could have received a response by Tuesday. However, you must understand that the request has to be channelled to the Ministry to process it and make responses....

Hon. John Kiarie (Dagoretti South, UDA) Something is totally out of order.

Hon. John Kiarie (Dagoretti South, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. While I appreciate the eloquence, brilliance and wit of the Leader of the Minority Party, I would like to inform him that Wamunyoro is an actual and very good village in Mathira Constituency. He might have been making reference...

Hon. John Kiarie (Dagoretti South, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I also congratulate my neighbour, Hon. Tim Wanyony, for bringing such a thought-provoking Motion to this House. If there is anything important that we will discuss this morning, it must 24th September 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 18 Hon. John...

Hon. John Kiarie (Dagoretti South, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. It is always a pleasure on afternoons when you are in the Chair, especially on such a day when we are discussing a critical matter of great benefit to two countries with a history of strong cooperation....

Hon. Speaker, I thank you for your Communication. You indicated that Kenya is a very small country compared to a country like the United States of America which is probably six times the size of Kenya in population and around 17 times in size. We celebrate our athletes who brought...

Before we get a response from the leadership, you might also want to send business regarding university education, together with the matter that Hon. Martha has raised to the Departmental Committee on Education. As we speak, students reporting to university had to go back home. They are sitting in abeyance....

Hon. Deputy Speaker, I thank you profusely for giving me this chance to debate an important piece of legislative proposal as has been presented by Hon. Kaluma. I must thank him for moving such a good Bill. I must also thank Hon. Otiende Amollo for unpacking it. But more importantly,...

Hon. John Kiarie (Dagoretti South, UDA) Hon. Speaker, I thank you for your Communication. You indicated that Kenya is a very small country compared to a country like the United States of America which is probably six times the size of Kenya in population and around 17 times in size....

Hon. John Kiarie (Dagoretti South, UDA) Before we get a response from the leadership, you might also want to send business regarding university education, together with the matter that Hon. Martha has raised to the Departmental Committee on Education. As we speak, students reporting to university had to go back...

Hon. John Kiarie (Dagoretti South, UDA) Hon. Deputy Speaker, I thank you profusely for giving me this chance to debate an important piece of legislative proposal as has been presented by Hon. Kaluma. I must thank him for moving such a good Bill. I must also thank Hon. Otiende Amollo...

Hon. John Kiarie (Dagorretti South, UDA) Hon. Speaker, I thank you. I must commend Waziri for the response that he has made to the House. Allow me to say that, as a country, we should not be like the warthog that forgets too quickly. I think there is commendation that...

Hon. John Kiarie (Dagoretti South, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. At this very thin hour of the evening, there could not be any more important business that we would be discussing as a House, than what is before us. It might be seen as a Motion to consider the...

Hon. John Kiarie (Dagoretti South, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I support this amendment. I am sure the Committee identified a gap. We live in a new world where we are talking about the digital move. Even as we advance into the digital world, we cannot forget that we have a...

Hon. John Kiarie (Dagoretti South, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I am very impressed by how keen Hon. Vincent Kawaya and his Committee are in prosecuting this Bill. This is important because a rose by any other name still smells as sweet. Change of name is not a big issue. The...

Hon. John Kiarie (Dagoretti South, UDA) Hon. Ken Chonga is raising an issue that is very emotive, as is evident from his presentation. I was seeking guidance from you. Being a man who understands language, our reference to our children as "kids", while we know very well that kids are...

Hon. John Kiarie (Dagoretti South, UDA) This is the direction we have been seeking. Hon. Speaker, I ask whether the direction you have given could also be extended to appearances before committees. The same situation we are witnessing in plenary is happening in committees. Departmental Committees are inviting Cabinet Secretaries...