OCHIENG DAVID OUMA

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Of course, it is not within your powers. Go ahead, Hon. Okuome.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you so much, Hon. Odipo. 3rd November 2022 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 51 The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)Members, I know that everyone wants to speak; and all of us came here the time we did. I do not want pressure to skip anybody;...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Makali, when you segregate do you put together or separate? Hon. John Makali (Kanduyi, FORD – K) : You separate all of them. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) So, do you mean we segregate? Hon. John Makali (Kanduyi, FORD – K) :...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) I wonder how much you saved for us. The next speaker would be Hon. Pauline Lenguris from Samburu.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you so much for saving our time. Let us have Hon. Paul Mwirigi followed by Hon. Julius Meli, then we go to the other side.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you so much, Hon. Melly. Hon. Members, just a small bit of information. The reason Members are talking about turning up when the day to vote comes is that the most important thing is raising a list of 233 Members on the day...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you so much, Hon. Maungu. The opportunity now goes to Hon. Basil.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Wanjala, you are out of order.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) This chance goes to Hon. Catherine Omanyo of Busia, followed by Hon. Stephen Mogaka of West Mugirango.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon Wanjala, please, allow Hon. Catherine Omanyo to make her contribution.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Mogaka.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) We are doing so well. Hon. Lekumontare of Samburu East, followed by the Hon. Gitonga Murugara of Tharaka.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you so much, Senior, Hon. Murugara. This chance will go to the Member for Likuyani, Hon. Innocent Mugabe. Hon. Jerusha Momanyi of Nyamira will follow.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng) Hon. Jerusha Momanyi.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you so much. This chance now goes to Hon. Guyo Jaldesa, followed by Hon. Caleb Mule.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng) Hon. Wanjala, followed by Hon. Kiaraho.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng) Where would you sleep, Hon. Wanjala? 3rd November 2022 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 64

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng)Where were you sleeping?

Hon. Temporary Speaker (David Ochieng’) Hon. David Kiaraho.

Hon. Temporary Speaker (David Ochieng’) Hon. Wanjala, you are totally out of order. You cannot bow at the middle of the walk way. (Laughter)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Let us have the Member for Kuresoi North, Hon. Alfred Mutai, followed by the Member for Ijara. 3rd November 2022 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 66

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Let us have the Member for Ijara.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng) Hon. Members, this proposal has a long way to go. I am certain by the time it is read for the First and the Second Times, all of us will get a chance to speak about it. If I had more time, I would...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you so much. Before I give the next Member a chance to speak, I wish to recognise students who have come to follow our proceedings this afternoon. They are: Olympic High School, Kibera Constituency, Nairobi County; Mukuru Kayaba Primary School, Starehe Constituency, Nairobi...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon Members, today, my intention as the Chair is to follow the order that we have as per the time you requested to speak. Do not therefore, approach me claiming that your card is not working. I will follow the list as it is....

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) If all of us were as brief as Hon. Mwafrika, we all would speak. Member for Soy.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Mogaka. In his absence, the opportunity goes to Hon. Liza Chelule.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Luanda.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Gitonga Murugara.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Jared Okello, what is out of order? POINT OF ORDER NG-CDF MONEY OWED TO CONSTITUENCIES

The Temporary Speaker (David Ochieng’) Not so. My advice to you on this matter is that you either approach the Speaker through his office, do a letter to him or prepare a formal Motion for debate before the Floor. Hon. Murugara will proceed.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Well said. Hon. Charles Onchoke of Bonchari.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Timothy Toroitich of Marakwet West.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Members, there are Members who are coming here, saying that their cards are not working. I am not in a position to help 27th October 2022 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 32 The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)with a card issue. The Clerks-at-the-Table can help...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. The next chance goes to Hon. Paul Katana, who will be followed by Hon. Bishop Kosgei.

The Temporary Speaker (David Ochieng’) Hon. Members, we shall proceed with the business of the House. Before I give Hon. Oundo an opportunity to second the Motion, I wish to welcome a delegation from the German Parliament: (Applause)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) The first person to have a bite of the cherry on this Motion will be Hon. John Gitonga, Member for Manyatta.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng) Well done. This chance now goes to Hon. Mugambi Rindikiri of Buuri Constituency.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you so much. Hon. Members, if you look at the Order Paper of today, you realise that there is a proposed amendment to this Motion under Standing Order 54. I wish to give an opportunity to the Member for Chepalungu, Hon. Victor Koech,...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Koech, you are doing well. Would you move your amendment first? You are already debating it. Would you just move your amendment first?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng) Just move your amendment first then ask your Seconder to second so that we debate the Motion.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Muge Cynthia.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng) Hon. Members, I am assuming that all of us have the amendment because you can access it. It is in today’s Order Paper. If you were here when I proposed the Motion, I read it in total. If it is the mood of the...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) This chance now goes to Hon. Maalim Farah.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Maalim, your time is up.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Maalim, you will not tell me the practice. I will give you one more minute to wind up. Thank you.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) I will not be taught by you. Use your one minute and wind up. 26th October 2022 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 34

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Well said. Thank you very much. Hon. Khamala is here. This House set up a committee called the Committee on Implementation. I would advise that you take notes as Members contribute so that if your Motion is carried and is being implemented, you could...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. The shorter the better. Hon. Beatrice Kemei.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Everyone is very good at managing 10 minutes. I hope you will understand that. With four minutes to go, this chance will go to Hon. Omboko Milemba.

Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker (David Ochieng) Time is up. Extra time will be given to you when debate on the Motion resumes next. ADJOURNMENT 26th October 2022 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 38 Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker (David Ochieng)Published by Clerk of the National Assembly Parliament Buildings Nairobi 26th October 2022 NATIONAL...