Anthony Kimani Ichung'wah

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, JP) Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I have a keen interest in the Statement because many of our people who are scrap metal dealers, more so very young hustlers who collect scrap metal in our villages and small towns and sell them to local smelters, have...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, JP) Hon. Deputy Speaker, there is nothing out of order in what I have said. The Government has a responsibility to protect its vital installations without punishing hustlers.

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, JP) Who are you to judge me on what is wrong and right?

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, JP) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I also rise to say a word or two on the fuel crisis. I have seen a clip going round from the President of the neighbouring country, the Republic of Tanzania, her Excellency Madam Suluhu, where she asks politicians to explain...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, JP) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker. I beg your indulgence and I will not take much time. I want to congratulate the Chairman and Members of the Budget and Appropriations Committee. I also want to point out that, indeed, the Communication the Speaker made is...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, JP) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I can hear the Hon. Kimunya shouting that I have one minute to speak yet he has never been a Speaker. Nonetheless, he has sat in the National Treasury and he knows the provisions of Article 223 and the Public Finance...

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, JP) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. It is indeed true we have consulted with the Hon. Chair and agreed some of the reallocations that we had wanted to do, he will be unanimous enough together with the department committees to cater for them during the annual estimates...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, JP) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I have two interventions: The first one is on something that I have seen the Cabinet Secretary for the National Treasury allude to or state.

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, JP) No, but the second one is on the Order Paper.

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, JP) Hon. Speaker, the second one that is on the Order Paper is on Order No. 9 on the Report of the First Supplementary Estimates for…

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, JP) Okay, Hon. Speaker. Much obliged.

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, JP) Thank you, Hon. Speaker, for your guidance. Fortunately, for the first Point of Order I sought, it is exactly what Hon. Duale has raised. I also benefitted from your guidance on what you discussed in the HBC. It is appropriate that the CS is guided...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, JP) Thank you Hon. Speaker for your indulgence. It is not that I have many points of order, but you know that I am stickler to the rule of law and procedures. I served under your chairmanship in the Powers and Privileges Committee. I am very...

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, JP) Thank you, Deputy Speaker for that guidance to the House. It is good that you have allowed a number of amendments. I want to register my reservations without questioning your wisdom and judgement in declining some of the amendments like the one that seeks to...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, JP) Hon. Deputy Speaker, you know I am never petty. You have heard the Chairman of the Budget and Appropriations Committee state on record what Hon. Junet is asking. The day I presented the amendments to the Table Office, I am aware the amendments found their...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, JP) On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker.

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, JP) Are you telling me to shut up? You are stupid. (Applause) (Loud consultations)

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, JP) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker. Hon. T.J., just relax. Hon. Sankok is back and he should be able... (Loud consultations)(Loud consultations) Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Hon. Sankok can have his seat. The Temporary Deputy Speaker (Hon. (Ms.) Jessica Mbalu)...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, I was consulting with the Leader of the Majority Party. So, I did not hear what you directed. I seek to hear what you said. The Temporary Deputy Speaker (Hon. (Ms.) Jessica Mbalu) : Having been informed by Members, especially the...

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, I was seeking your attention away from the Clerk because I need your guidance. I had a point of order even before other issues came up. I am seeking your intervention because if you read the import of this particular amendment...

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, JP) Why can you not allow me to finish what I am saying so that you are able to make an informed decision? I am seeking your guidance. It could be that the import of this amendment--- Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, I beg that you lend...

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, you know I am serving my second term. I have been the Chairperson of the Budget and Appropriations Committee. I know the import of this particular amendment, and that is what I am seeking so that you can guide the House....

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, I was saying that if, for instance, Hon. Kimunya’s amendment was to pass, it will substantially change what is in the Committee’s Report. Therefore, any amendment that is anchored on the Committee’s Report will naturally die. The guidance I am seeking---...

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, the two issues I want you to determine are as follows. One, if Hon. Kimunya’s amendment is carried, where do the amendments that I and Hon. Duale have proposed sit? Two is on a procedural matter. If you propose an amendment...

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, JP) Yes, Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker. In one Minute; that is why I was asking for your protection. I am trying to get to you and the Leader of the Majority Party is shouting at me and--- The Temporary Deputy Chairlady (Hon. (Ms.) Jessica Mbalu) :...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, my view is blocked. Could you ask the Members standing between you and me to allow me to have a direct view of you? February 24, 2021 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 42 Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, JP)The Temporary Deputy Speaker (Hon. (Ms.)...

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, I need your protection and assurance that if I move the amendment, it will be subjected to debate and voting. The earlier amendment was not voted on. The Temporary Deputy Speaker (Hon. (Ms.) Jessica Mbalu) : Hon. Ichung’wah, we have enough...

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, I sought your guidance. The Temporary Deputy Speaker (Hon. (Ms.) Jessica Mbalu) : I do not know whether you were in the House. Please, move your proposed amendment and then it will be seconded. I will then propose it and open...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, I rise to second the proposed amendment by the Member for Kilifi North, Hon. Baya. I must also take this opportunity to record my disappointment and displeasure with the turn of events because this is a House of debate. We come...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, JP) I hope I will recover the two minutes that Hon. Millie has taken. I was saying that the cost of food items is largely dictated by the inputs that go into production. I see another point of order from Hon. Junet. February 24, 2021 NATIONAL...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, protect me. It is good to know that there are time limits set at the Clerks’ Table. I am within my time. Hon. Junet says that he is not my student, but he has no capacity to even learn some of...

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, JP)Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker. I wanted to raise the issue when the substantive Speaker was still on the Chair. However, since you are here, let me raise it. February 22, 2022 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 17 Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, JP)him at that point that...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, JP) On a point of order, Hon. Chairman. Hon. Chairman What is your point of order, Hon. Ichung’wah? Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, JP) Hon. Chairman, the Hon. Nyasuna Wanga has referred to somebody as the “Hon. Machungwa,” and I was the only loud Member in the...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, JP) Hon. Chairman, I was worried by your pronouncement that if Hon. Wanga’s amendment passes, Hon. Nduati’s falls. But I can see Hon. Nduati’s amendment touches sub-section 2 while Hon. Wanga’s concerns sub-section 4. So we need clarity so we may know how to proceed.

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, JP) Hon. Chairman, with all due respect, what she is proposing does not affect what Hon. Nduati is proposing. It was your pronouncement that got me worried.

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, JP) Hon. Chairman, I rise to support this amendment by Hon. Nduati and thank the Chairlady, Hon. Nyasuna, for dropping her amendment. As Hon. Nduati has indicated, it was quite dangerous to allow contractors of tenderers to be the ones to allow the use of provisional...

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, JP) On a point of order, Hon. Chairman. Hon. Chairman What is it Hon. Ichung’wah? Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, JP) Hon. Chairman, there is (b) , and I think what Hon. Nduati has spoken to is (a) . So, if you can just allow him to...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, JP) Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. February 17, 2022 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 35 Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, JP)I want to join many of my colleagues who have contributed to this debate. This may seems like a good Bill, but very bad for public institutions.Hon. Temporary Deputy...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, JP) On a point of order, Hon. Deputy Speaker.

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, JP) Hon. Deputy Speaker, I take offence when the good Nominee Member 001, who comes from Narok County and the Maa Community, purports to be an expert in Kikuyu traditions. What he said is not true. This is a House of records. It is only right...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, JP) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairman. I rise to support and, indeed, thank the Chair of the Committee for that. At the time we drafted this Bill, that was an oversight. It should have been in line with the Mwongozo Policy where we have two...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, JP) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairman. I support. I had seen that it was complete deletion, but it is not. He is re-ordering. He has taken Clause 18 and made it (h) of Clause 6. So, it is okay. The Temporary Deputy Chairman (Hon. Christopher...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairman, I support this particular amendment. Listening to what Hon. Maanzo is saying, it is true that it could have been better if it was a policy. However, it is equally important that disaster management plans are February 16, 2022 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairman, this is a good amendment. For example, looking at the recent accident, the collapse of mines in Bondo, if we had an authority that would have assessed this disaster and classified whether it is a national or a county level disaster,...

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, JP) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairman. I rise to support the amendment. As the Chair has said, part of the functions of the Disaster Management Committee at the county level will be to establish and implement a county early warning and emergency communication strategy that...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, JP) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairman. I support this amendment because it is important for the County Executive Committee Member to be responsible in the development of fire management system in particular counties. Fire is one of the most prevalent disasters that we have in...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, JP) Hon Temporary Chairman, I beg to move that the Committee do report to the House its consideration of the National Disaster Management Authority Bill (National Assembly Bill No.10 of 2019) and its approval thereof with amendments. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) The Temporary...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, I beg to move that the House doth agree with the Committee in the said Report. I also request Hon. Millie Odhiambo to second the motion for agreement with the Report of the Committee of the whole House. The Temporary Deputy...

Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, I think everybody understands the fate that has befallen the next stage. Allow me to thank the Chair of the Committee and in absentia and posthumously thank the former Chair, the late Hon. Paul Koinange. This is because as you will...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, JP) Hon. Speaker, I beg to move that the National Disaster Management Authority Bill (National Assembly Bill No.10 of 2019) be now read a Third Time. I request Hon. Kanini Kega to second.

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, JP) Hon. Speaker, I do not want to contradict the Chairperson on what he is saying. However, when business is published on the Order Paper, I am certain that it was done with the full knowledge of the Budget and Appropriations Committee. Now he is telling...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, JP) Hon. Speaker, I know that Hon. Kanini is being evasive, but since some of us have amendments, some of which are amendments to recommendations in his Report; if we are to debate this report another day, can he confirm to us if the consultations include...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, JP) Therefore, Hon. Speaker, I just want the Chairperson to inform us whether we can go back to his committee and have some of these amendments considered by the committee. Thus, when he comes back after the consultations with us and others, we can then just...

Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah (Kikuyu, JP) Thank you, Hon. Speaker, for your indulgence. I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table of the House: Report of the Budget and Appropriations Committee on the request by the National Treasury for approval of stoppage of transfer of funds to 15 County...