Stewart Mwachiru Shadrack Madzayo

Sen. Madzayo) : Sen. Faki, please withdraw the use of the word “collabo” we do not know what that is. Sen. Lemaletian, I would like to confirm that Sen. Tobiko was scheduled to speak. We are following the queue. Bi. Spika wa Muda, ndugu yangu Sen. Faki amesema kuwa “aliingia...

Sen. Madzayo) : Sen. Wamatangi, you may proceed. Sorry, Sen, Wamatinga. Asante, Bi. Spika wa Muda kwa kunipa nafasi hii. Kwanza, natoa rambirambi zangu kwa wale wote waliopoteza maisha yao wakati wakifanya kazi ya kulinda nchi na kuangalia hali ya vile mipaka yetu inavyoendelea hapo juzi na jana na wakapatikana...

Bi. Spika wa Muda, neno ‘collabo’ linatumika kwenye lugha ya Kiswahili. Hivi sasa niko tayari kujibu hoja ya nidhamu ya Kiongozi wa walio Wachache kwa kuondoa neno hilo. Pengine nitapata fursa siku nyingine kulijadili neno hilo kwa kina. Mswada huu tunaoujadili ni muhimu sana. Katiba yetu imetoa haki nyingi ambazo...

Sen. Faki, please withdraw the use of the word “collabo” we do not know what that is. Sen. Lemaletian, I would like to confirm that Sen. Tobiko was scheduled to speak. We are following the queue.

Sen. Madzayo) : Sen. Madzayo) : We will vote electronically. I request the doors to be closed and the bars to be drawn. (The bars were drawn and doors closed) Senators, proceed to log out. Serjeant-at-Arms collect any unattended cards. Senators, you can now log in and proceed to vote....

I call upon the Mover.

Sen. Madzayo) : Sen. Madzayo) : Hon. Senators, the results of the vote have been tabulated as follow-

Sen. Madzayo) : Sen. Madzayo) : We will vote electronically. I request the doors to be closed and the bars to be drawn. (The bars were drawn and doors closed) Senators, proceed to log out. Serjeant-at-Arms collect any unattended cards. Senators, you can now log in and proceed to vote....

I call upon the Mover.

Sen. Madzayo) : Sen. Madzayo) : Hon. Senators, the results of the vote have been tabulated as follow-

Sen. Madzayo) : Sen. Madzayo) : We will vote electronically. I request the doors to be closed and the bars to be drawn. (The bars were drawn and doors closed) Senators, proceed to log out. Serjeant-at-Arms collect any unattended cards. Senators, you can now log in and proceed to vote....

I call upon the Mover.

Sen. Madzayo) : Sen. Madzayo) : Hon. Senators, the results of the vote have been tabulated as follow-

Bw. Spika, nia yetu ni kwamba mazungumzo haya yaweze kufaulu. Tuna imani na timu ambazo tumeziweka hapa mbele.Bibilia inatuambia ya kwamba, pale watu wawili au watatu wako pamoja kuzungumza, ni lazima pawe na amani. Kwa hivyo, sisi tuko na imani na mazungumzo haya na vinara wote kutoka upande huu na...

Sen. Madzayo) : Sen. Madzayo) : On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

Sen. Madzayo) : Sen. Madzayo) :Bw. Spika, nia yetu ni kwamba mazungumzo haya yaweze kufaulu. Tuna imani na timu ambazo tumeziweka hapa mbele.Bibilia inatuambia ya kwamba, pale watu wawili au watatu wako pamoja kuzungumza, ni lazima pawe na amani. Kwa hivyo, sisi tuko na imani na mazungumzo haya na vinara...

Hon. Senators, kindly let us hear the Senate Majority Leader in silence. The Senate Minority Leader ( Sen. Madzayo) : Sen. Madzayo) : Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I rise pursuant to Standing Order No. 111 (1) and (2) . I beg to move the following Motion- THAT, debate on...

Yes, Sen. (Dr.) Lelegwe Ltumbesi, what is your point of order? (Sen. (Dr.) Lelegwe spoke off record) (Question proposed) I will, therefore, proceed to call upon hon. Senators to make their contribution to this Motion. However, before I do so, Sen. (Dr.) Lelegwe Ltumbesi, what is your point of order?...

Bw. Spika, nia yetu ni kwamba mazungumzo haya yaweze kufaulu. Tuna imani na timu ambazo tumeziweka hapa mbele.Bibilia inatuambia ya kwamba, pale watu wawili au watatu wako pamoja kuzungumza, ni lazima pawe na amani. Kwa hivyo, sisi tuko na imani na mazungumzo haya na vinara wote kutoka upande huu na...

Sen. Madzayo) : Sen. Madzayo) : On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

Sen. Madzayo) : Sen. Madzayo) :Bw. Spika, nia yetu ni kwamba mazungumzo haya yaweze kufaulu. Tuna imani na timu ambazo tumeziweka hapa mbele.Bibilia inatuambia ya kwamba, pale watu wawili au watatu wako pamoja kuzungumza, ni lazima pawe na amani. Kwa hivyo, sisi tuko na imani na mazungumzo haya na vinara...

Hon. Senators, kindly let us hear the Senate Majority Leader in silence. The Senate Minority Leader ( Sen. Madzayo) : Sen. Madzayo) : Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I rise pursuant to Standing Order No. 111 (1) and (2) . I beg to move the following Motion- THAT, debate on...

Yes, Sen. (Dr.) Lelegwe Ltumbesi, what is your point of order? (Sen. (Dr.) Lelegwe spoke off record) (Question proposed) I will, therefore, proceed to call upon hon. Senators to make their contribution to this Motion. However, before I do so, Sen. (Dr.) Lelegwe Ltumbesi, what is your point of order?...

I will allow Members to contribute on the request by the Senate Majority Leader, seconded by the Senate Minority Leader, to adjourn the Motion, but not on the merits of the Motion that we had earlier on began to debate on.

Sen. Thang’wa, what I get from you is that you are opposing the adjournment. You can state whether you do not want the Motion to be adjourned or not.

On a point of order, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I do not want it to appear that I do not agree with the Senate Majority Leader. However, you re- arranged the Order Paper and said we were going to Order No.8. Therefore, we skipped Questions and Statements because you wanted...

Sen. Madzayo) : I will allow Members to contribute on the request by the Senate Majority Leader, seconded by the Senate Minority Leader, to adjourn the Motion, but not on the merits of the Motion that we had earlier on began to debate on. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I have...

Endelea, Kiongozi wa Walio Wachache. Ulimaanisha nini ukisema “azimia” ama ulisema “asilimia”? The Senate Minority Leader ( Sen. Madzayo) : Sen. Madzayo) :Asante sana. Tunajua Lamu

Sen. Madzayo) : Sen. Madzayo) : Samahani Kiongozi wa Walio Wachache. Naomba tusikize hoja ya nidhamu kutoka kwa Sen. Cherakey. Amesimama kwa hoja ya nidhamu kwa zaida ya dakika 30. August 9, 2023 SENATE DEBATES 11

Samahani Kiongozi wa Walio Wachache. Naomba tusikize hoja ya nidhamu kutoka kwa Sen. Cherakey. Amesimama kwa hoja ya nidhamu kwa zaida ya dakika 30.

Bw. Naibu Spika, nasimama kwa Kanuni za Kudumu No.101 za Bunge la Seneti. Nimemskia Seneta mwenzangu ambaye ni Kiongozi wa Walio Wachache akisema “azimia.” Ningependa kujua inamaanisha nini ili niweze kufuatilia haya mazungumzo. Itakuwa ni bora ikiwa atafafanua. Bw. Naibu Spika, sisi pia ni watalii na tunachangia utalii.

Sen. Madzayo) : Sen. Madzayo) : On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. The Senate Minority Leader (Sen. Madzayo) : Asante, Bw. Naibu Spika. Sijui kama hiyo Hoja ya nidhamu--- August 9, 2023 SENATE DEBATES 27

Sen. Madzayo) : Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I join my colleagues in congratulating the Committee chaired by my sister, Sen. Kavindu Muthama, on the progress they have made so far. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I would like to agree with Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale that the USA has been...

Sen. Madzayo) : Thank you, Senator. Proceed, Sen. Cherarkey. (Laughter)

Wanakuchanganya, malizia hoja yako.

Proceed, Sen. (Prof.) Kamar.

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I join my colleagues in congratulating the Committee chaired by my sister, Sen. Kavindu Muthama, on the progress they have made so far. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I would like to agree with Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale that the USA has been a friend to...

hurt at that time and have not been able to come to terms with what happened. They also said that nobody has talked to them about the issue of compensation.I would like to encourage the Committee that as they move forward to meet the US ambassador, they should have their...

Thank you, Senator. Proceed, Sen. Cherarkey.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, two quick things. One, I want to thank---

There is no Mr. Speaker.

Sorry, Madam Temporary Speaker. I note the change on the seat, my apologies. Madam Temporary Speaker, I rise to continue to empathize with the victims of the heinous act of terrorism in 1998 where many Kenyans and other nationalities were killed. One of the victims that died is my resident...

Finally, I appeal to the American Government because it is a friendly nation to compensate them. The American Government was compensated a whopping US$335 million by Sudan Government to be removed from the list of terrorist countries.The USA itself has received compensation over victims of terrorist attacks. Even in the...

Endelea, Kiongozi wa Walio Wachache. Ulimaanisha nini ukisema “azimia” ama ulisema “asilimia”? The Senate Minority Leader ( Sen. Madzayo) : Sen. Madzayo) :Asante sana. Tunajua Lamu

Sen. Madzayo) : Sen. Madzayo) : Samahani Kiongozi wa Walio Wachache. Naomba tusikize hoja ya nidhamu kutoka kwa Sen. Cherakey. Amesimama kwa hoja ya nidhamu kwa zaida ya dakika 30. August 9, 2023 SENATE DEBATES 11

Samahani Kiongozi wa Walio Wachache. Naomba tusikize hoja ya nidhamu kutoka kwa Sen. Cherakey. Amesimama kwa hoja ya nidhamu kwa zaida ya dakika 30.

Bw. Naibu Spika, nasimama kwa Kanuni za Kudumu No.101 za Bunge la Seneti. Nimemskia Seneta mwenzangu ambaye ni Kiongozi wa Walio Wachache akisema “azimia.” Ningependa kujua inamaanisha nini ili niweze kufuatilia haya mazungumzo. Itakuwa ni bora ikiwa atafafanua. Bw. Naibu Spika, sisi pia ni watalii na tunachangia utalii.

Sen. Madzayo) : Sen. Madzayo) : On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. The Senate Minority Leader (Sen. Madzayo) : Asante, Bw. Naibu Spika. Sijui kama hiyo Hoja ya nidhamu--- August 9, 2023 SENATE DEBATES 27

Sen. Madzayo) : Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I join my colleagues in congratulating the Committee chaired by my sister, Sen. Kavindu Muthama, on the progress they have made so far. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I would like to agree with Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale that the USA has been...

Sen. Madzayo) : Thank you, Senator. Proceed, Sen. Cherarkey. (Laughter)

Wanakuchanganya, malizia hoja yako.

Proceed, Sen. (Prof.) Kamar.

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I join my colleagues in congratulating the Committee chaired by my sister, Sen. Kavindu Muthama, on the progress they have made so far. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I would like to agree with Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale that the USA has been a friend to...

hurt at that time and have not been able to come to terms with what happened. They also said that nobody has talked to them about the issue of compensation.I would like to encourage the Committee that as they move forward to meet the US ambassador, they should have their...

Thank you, Senator. Proceed, Sen. Cherarkey.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, two quick things. One, I want to thank---

There is no Mr. Speaker.

Sorry, Madam Temporary Speaker. I note the change on the seat, my apologies. Madam Temporary Speaker, I rise to continue to empathize with the victims of the heinous act of terrorism in 1998 where many Kenyans and other nationalities were killed. One of the victims that died is my resident...

Finally, I appeal to the American Government because it is a friendly nation to compensate them. The American Government was compensated a whopping US$335 million by Sudan Government to be removed from the list of terrorist countries.The USA itself has received compensation over victims of terrorist attacks. Even in the...

Sen. Madzayo) : Sen. Madzayo, you cannot stand on a point of order on the issue you have shared with me, unless you have a different matter. Hon. Senators, you will recall that sometimes last week, the Senate Minority Leader rose to seek a Statement on the security of the...