Ledama Olekina

Sen. Olekina Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am sorry, but I have to. I rise under Standing Order 105 on the statement of facts. The Constitution of Kenya is quite clear on the kind of taxes that county governments can collect and the taxes that the national Government can collect. If...

Sen. Olekina Mr. Speaker, Sir, on a point of order.

Sen. Olekina Thank you. With a population of 60 million we have to be realistic, unfortunately. Let us call a spade a spade. Let us leave road reserves for the expansion of our roads, so that we can enhance trade, particularly in this region. We want to make it easy...

Sen. Olekina Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I rise to support the Statement by the distinguished Senator, Sen. Osotsi on the forceful eviction of traders at Luanda Market in Vihiga County. There is a balance between development and ownership of property. There is also a balance between private property and...

Sen. Olekina Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I wanted to comment on the Statement by Sen. Essy Okenyuri on the issue of tea bonuses. I listened keenly to my colleague; the Senator from Nandi County, and saw how emotional he was on the issue of bonuses. October 1, 2025 SENATE...

Sen. Olekina Mr. Speaker, Sir, I had not concluded. Allow me just one minute. The Senator for Kilifi, what is your point of order? The Senate Minority Leader (Sen. Madzayo) : Mr. Speaker, Sir, I heard my colleague, Sen. Joyce Korir, say “Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir.” I wondered whether my...

Sen. Olekina Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. There is no doubt that there has been significant progress with the management of the KNH since the new management was put in place. We know that there is a gentleman called Lesiyampe who has even increased the number of surgical beds...

Senate Majority Leader.

Sen. Olekina Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. Let me begin by supporting the statement sought by the Good Senator for Nairobi City County with regards to the status of Karura Forest. Karura Forest acts as “lungs” for Nairobi City County. We are in a county that has a lot of...

Sen. Olekinathe National Treasury and we must call a spade a spade. If we want to move with development and make sure that projects in the county governments are not interrupted, then we must call a spade a spade.Article 219 of the Constitution is very clear. I request each one...

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Sen. Olekina You have made your point. Just a point of clarification before I give directions on it. If you followed the argument by Sen. Okiya, in the context of a Motion that was moved, he indicated that he would depart, in his opinion, with the Motion. Sen. Okiya, you...

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You have made your point. Just a point of clarification before I give directions on it. If you followed the argument by Sen. Okiya, in the context of a Motion that was moved, he indicated that he would depart, in his opinion, with the Motion. Sen. Okiya, you may proceed...

My argument is that my reading of Article 214, the one that says that a public debt shall be the first charge on the Consolidated Fund, goes further to clarify and define what qualifies for that public debt, not any owning. A county governor, for example, cannot go and incur...

Sen. Olekina You have made your point. Sen. Okiya Omtatah, confine yourself to the arguments.

Sen. Olekina, I want to notify you of the fact that you have already spoken to this Bill. If you are raising an issue with regard to a point of order, it is the Chair to direct. I was going to direct Sen. Okiya Omtatah that he should confine his...

Sen. Olekina You are absolutely right. However, he is currently representing both Baringo and West Pokot. He is actually doing that. I just want to be very clear and appreciate the sentiments of the Temporary Speaker and also the good Senator from West Pokot for understanding what this Bill is....

Sen. Olekina Fantastic. Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. It is important for me to clarify to the PBAK, who it is important that I speak to, because they are stakeholders. It is important that we engage in a factual discussion and not a discussion that is skewed in a...

Sen. Olekina Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, because we do not have the numbers, I request that the putting of the Question be deferred to a later date under Standing Order No.66 (3) .

Sen. Olekina Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, with the kind words from the distinguished Senator, before I reply, I also express my condolences to the family of the September 23, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 57 Sen. Olekinadeparted, Emmanual Kimutai of Chebunyo. May the good Lord grant his family the serenity to accept...

Sen. Olekina Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I beg to move that the Seeds and Plant Varieties (Amendment) Bill (Senate Bills No.4 of 2025) be read a Second Time. As I rise to move this Bill, I want to clarify what this Bill is and what it is not....

Sen. Olekina Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. Let me appreciate you and the distinguished Senator from West Pokot for contributing and understanding what this Bill is. I just want to reiterate because I see the Chairperson of the Committee---

Sen. Olekina You have exhausted your time, Sen. Osotsi. (Several Senators spoke off the record) Two minutes, you conclude. August 29, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 119

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I will restrict myself to IT issues. You made a decision that this House should hire an IT expert, so that we could be guided on the issue of the IT system that was deployed for voting and that would give us a pointer on...

Philip Irode was my student, I trained him on ITIL, which is an international standard on IT security. The only other serious thing that I have seen is on page 16, where the expert brought a checklist that is used in international ICT audit. However, if you go through this...

You have exhausted your time, Sen. Osotsi. (Several Senators spoke off the record) Two minutes, you conclude.

Sen. Olekina Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. My question to the MCA is simple. Do you sit in the Kericho County Assembly and approve budgets? I wonder how much was spent in purchasing the electronic voting system, if indeed, it was introduced there by the Speaker. I was scanning through...

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Sen. Olekina Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Let me appreciate the Majority Leader for reminding us of the importance of debate and the importance of paying attention to the kind of Bills that we are discussing in this House. As I rise to make submissions to The Tobacco Control (Amendment)...

Sen. OlekinaMr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, the second point, which we deliberated on earlier today is the issue of flavours. You will allow me to use the right Swahili word in this matter. Sen. Mumma has said that in China there are no flavours. That, in China the regulations are stricter,...

Sen. Olekina, I would love to have you conclude your comments on this particular Bill tomorrow when we resume. You still have 11 minutes to dissect and align with the Bill from Sen. Mumma. July 29, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 52 ADJOURNMENT July 29, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 53

Sen. Osotsi Godfrrey.

Thank you very much, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I rise to support this Motion for us have Senate Mashinani Sittings in Busia County. The role of creating awareness is also a responsibility of the Senate. We need to ensure that the country knows the roles and responsibilities of the Senate....

Sen. OlekinaTo the young people seated here today, I hope that when you leave, you do so having witnessed how we fight for devolution, not how we heckle or fight among ourselves.I thank you. July 24, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 29 Sen. Olekina To the young people seated here today, I...

Sen. Roba Ali Ibrahim.