Khalwale Boni

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale

Sen. Cherarkey, hoja yako ya nidhamu ni gani?

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Seneta, tutaendelea na Hoja hii baadaye. Kuna maelekezo ya kwamba, ikifika saa kumi na moja unusu, Sen. Kavindu ana Hoja ya kusoma katika hii Seneti. Sen. Kavindu, nafasi ni yako sasa.

Bw. Spika wa Muda, nimekusikiza ulipokuwa ukitoa mwelekeo wako. Kabla Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale aseme ikiwa atakuja kueleza au la, nafikiri ni vyema mimi pamoja na Naibu Mwenyekiti wa Kamati ya Uhasibu wa Pesa za Umma, almaarufu, County Public Accounts Committee (CPAC) , tueleze jinsi Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale alivyosema. April 23,...

Kuniradhi, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale.

Maseneta, nadhani Sen. (Dr.) Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Bw. Spika wa Muda, naomba wenzangu wanisikize. Endapo mtu ana maoni tofauti, anisahihishe katika mchango wake. Kulingana na sheria za Bunge hili, kuna uhuru wa kuzungumza. Ikiwa tutaua uhuru wa kuzungumza, basi tutaogopa kusema ni nani anayeiba mbolea wakati huu. Wacha niwaambie, mkiua...

Endelea, Sen. Madzayo.

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Bw. Spika wa Muda, nimekusikiza ulipokuwa ukitoa mwelekeo wako. Kabla Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale aseme ikiwa atakuja kueleza au la, nafikiri ni vyema mimi pamoja na Naibu Mwenyekiti wa Kamati ya Uhasibu wa Pesa za Umma, almaarufu, County Public Accounts Committee (CPAC) , tueleze jinsi Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Bw. Spika wa Muda, naomba wenzangu wanisikize. Endapo mtu ana maoni tofauti, anisahihishe katika mchango wake. Kulingana na sheria za Bunge hili, kuna uhuru wa kuzungumza. Ikiwa tutaua uhuru wa kuzungumza, basi tutaogopa kusema ni nani anayeiba mbolea wakati huu. Wacha niwaambie, mkiua uhuru wa kuzungumza katika...

Bw. Spika wa Muda, nashukuru kwa kunipa nafasi kusimama kwenye hoja la nidhamu. Nimemsikia Seneta wa Kakamega akidai kuwa alimuona kinara April 23, 2024 SENATE DEBATES 43

Sen. Wambua, hoja yako ya nidhamu ni ipi?

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Alisema hundi. (Laughter)

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. On behalf of the Chairman of the Committee on Finance and Budget, I rise pursuant to Standing Order No. 56 (1) (b) of the Senate Standing Orders, to make a Statement on the activities of this Committee during the period running from...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. With your permission. ii) The Rental Fees incurred by the County Government of Kakamega, again by the Senator of Kakamega; iii) Revenue of Generation and Usage by the County Government of Kakamega, again by the Senator of Kakamega; iv) Payments made to...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. Allow me to congratulate the Cabinet Secretary. It has been long since we last met Madam Cabinet Secretary. I am truly impressed with the professional manner in which you go around discharging your duty as a Cabinet Secretary. It is something...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker, Sir. In my capacity and on behalf of the rest of the membership of the House, I congratulate the young people and wish them well going into the future.

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I rise to second the Conflict of Interest Bill (National Assembly Bills No.12 of 2023) as moved. I will be very brief. I take this House down memory lane. This is not the first time that the matter of conflict of...

Sen (Dr.) Khalwale Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. Indeed, we are alive to the fact that we are supposed to vote this afternoon. We have done the usual mobilization, but we do not appear to be attaining the target, including the Mover of the Bill is not in the...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. If there is one thing that this House should do is to pass this Bill. Even if there are a million amendments that are supposed to be there, this Bill is an admission of how Parliament can fail. In 2013, somebody...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir.

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. This is a request for a Statement on the distribution of fake fertiliser to farmers in various parts of the country and Kakamega in particular. I rise pursuant to Standing Order No. 53 (1) to seek for this Statement from the...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Rule No.22 is addressing cross- examination. Just in case there are other issues of clarifications, the Witness is summoned.

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale

Thank you, let us proceed now. Take a minute, Sen. Sifuna.

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. We are cautioned because- -- The Bible says that we should not serve the law, but that the law should serve us. In our Ruling No.30 of the same on the procedures, you have the power to determine on a particular question, but not...

Let me give Sen. Cherargei an opportunity to say something. He is a lawyer, who practices English than you. (Loud consultations)

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Let me give Sen. Cherargei an opportunity to say something. He is a lawyer, who practices English than you. (Loud consultations) Are you also challenged in English Language? Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Am I?

I cannot vacate my ruling. Sorry. March 14, 2024 SENATE DEBATES 57 Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Are you also challenged in English Language?

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, I made that ruling. You should sit down. Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I will not take that.

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale I cannot vacate my ruling. Sorry.

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, I made that ruling. You should sit down.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I will stay with that line of questioning to Senior Counsel Katwa Kigen. Supposing there is an admission on the part of the witness, that indeed he participated in a criminal activity, would that absolve the Deputy Governor from liability of a similar crime? Secondly, you...

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Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Mr. Speaker, Sir, purely on humanitarian grounds, I request that you use Standing Order No.1 to allow the young witness, probably five or 10 minutes maximum to recompose himself. You can see that the witness is completely emotionally eroded.

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Yes, Senior Counsel Katwa Kigen. The Counsel for the Deputy Governor (Mr. Katwa Kigen) : Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, we make no admission. For argument’s sake, if that was the case and the witness was to say that in his state of mind, he gave out the...

Fair enough. Take your seat, Senior Counsel Katwa Kigen. Let us listen to Sen. Wambua.

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale It is new to the extent that he has raised four issues upon which you should rule. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am inviting you to consider ruling on a fifth issue. Whereas this is the Senate, in this Chamber this morning and for the next two days,...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Yes, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Mr. Temporary Chairman, Sir, do not take this House back to where we were in Section 2A of the old Constitution. We are now operating under the Constitution of 2010. Sen. Cherarkey, there are Kenyans who died to put this Constitution in place. We have to remind...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Thank you, Sen. Omogeni. It is also possible that a student can teach a teacher. I cannot teach a teacher, but since I am your teacher on parliamentary practice, I stand corrected. Madam Temporary Speaker, I did not realize what I had done. If you heard me...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Madam Temporary Speaker, it is a pleasure for me to welcome the young people from Kirinyaga to this Senate this afternoon. I do so because they do not know us well. Young people, you will be interested to know that when I was a young doctor over...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I cry for many. The country will need patriots who will speak truth to power. I was recently at a Parliamentary Group (PG) meeting where governors, Senators, and Members of the National Assembly (MPs) were present. They were having tea and feeling...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Madam Temporary Speaker, I hear the concerns of the Senator for Laikipia and if I am old-fashioned, I should be forgiven. I am very confused March 11, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 34 Sen. (Dr.) Khalwalewith the system of education that we have in the country. I actually do...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Mr. Speaker, Sir, the issue raised by the Senator for Marsabit, Sen. Said Mohamed Chute, is very important. It speaks to a pandemic in this country where projects started by the first-generation governors have stalled. The hospital in Sololo has taken seven years, but it is just...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. It is an honour for me to acknowledge the presence of our colleagues from Zambia in this House. I do welcome you warmly, Hon. Members. Kenya and Zambia have been one and the same from the early 1960s. I recall in 1963...

Hon. Members, this is a Motion that has been brought pursuant to Standing Order No.34 (4) and under Standing Order No.34 (5) . It is supposed to be dispensed with 30 minutes before the time. We have two minutes within which to dispense with that Motion.

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale(Loud consultations)

Hon. Members, we will now proceed with the debate on the Bill. I ask Sen. Okiya Omtatah to proceed with his contribution. (Resumption of debate on the Bill) (Loud consultations) March 7, 2024 SENATE DEBATES 51

Order, Members! Order, Sen.

Propose the Question!

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I am a member of this committee and, therefore, the Chairman has spoken for all of us. However, there are two salient points that I would like to speak to. The first one is that the advice we are giving the House...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Mr. Speaker, Sir, listening to what the Senator for Nairobi City County has told you, there would be greater benefit if you allowed both the Question to be raised and be responded to by the Cabinet Secretary and the Statement to be sought, for the reason that...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Mr. Speaker, Sir, I have this inkling that the Minister who has been so rude as to fail to come this morning is holed up somewhere following these proceedings now just to see how we are going to handle her case. I request you to allow the...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Mr. Speaker, Sir, I want to appeal to the young Senator from Migori---

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale If we must defend certain positions, let us defend them reasonably.

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. We worked so hard to form this Government; you, I and many others. We were not working hard so as to allow people in office who would then be tiptoeing in and out of office. We wanted people to stamp their authority...

Sen. (Dr) Khalwale Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. A Hon. Senator: Zungumza Kiswahili Sen. (Dr) Khalwale Kwani wewe utanifundisha vile nitazungumza katika Seneti? (Laughter)

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Apologies on behalf of the Chairperson of Finance and the whole Committee. We have been in session from 7 a.m. We have just ended the meeting. I rise to give notice of the following Motion on the Report of the Standing Committee...