Samson Ndindi Nyoro

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA)

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move that the Committee do report to the House its consideration of the County Allocation of Revenue Bill (Senate Bill No.25 of 2024) and its approval thereof without amendments. CONSIDERATION OF REPORT ON THE APPROPRIATION BILL (Loud consultations)

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA) Hon. Speaker, I beg to move that the House does agree with the Committee in the said report. I request Hon. Musa Sirma, to second.

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA) Hon. Speaker, I beg to move that the Appropriation Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 33 of 2024) be now read a Third Time. I request Hon. Didmus Barasa to second.

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker. I beg to move that the House does agree with the Committee in the said report. I request Hon. Wamumbi, Member for Mathira, to second.

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA) Hon. Speaker, I beg to move that the Appropriation Bill (National Assembly Bill No.33 of 2024) be now read a Second Time. I thank all Members who have been participating in this Bill. Before I call the Seconder, let me point out some of the...

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA) Hon. Speaker, I beg to move that the County Allocation of Revenue Bill (Senate Bill No. 25 of 2024) be now read a Second Time. 25th June 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 79 Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA)I will put it straight that in this Financial...

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker. (Several Members left the Chamber) 25th June 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 78

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA) The other thing is that there is a proposed reduction of Ksh1 billion in livestock restocking. From our side, we believe those who lost their livestock deserve to be compensated. Those who will vote against the Ksh1 billion that will go to livestock restocking will...

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA) Thank you, very much Hon. Speaker. As the rule provided in the PFM Act and Article 39 (a) , we have to balance our expenditure and revenues. I want to talk as the Chairman of the Budget and Appropriations Committee. I actually want to talk...

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA) Hon. Speaker, I would wish to beg, because we are on the other side of expenditure, if possible you could add me a few minutes so that I bring forth a message I have for the House.

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA) I want to be very objective. These are the proposed cuts in case there is no revenue raising measures as proposed by Hon. Kuria Kimani. Number one, as I said, I want to be very clear. State House’s budget will be cut by Ksh500 million...

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I beg to move: THAT, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 120, this House resolves to reduce the publication period of the Appropriation Bill, (National Assembly Bill, No. 33 of 2024) , from seven days to five days. This is...

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA) Hon. Speaker, I beg to move that the Equalisation Fund Appropriation (No.2) Bill, (Senate Bill No.30 of 2023) , be now read a Third Time. Before I call the Seconder, I want to thank all the Members and the House for ably debating this matter...

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I beg to move that the Supplementary Appropriations Bill (National Assembly Bill No.32 of 2024) be now read a Second Time. As Hon. Nyikal has put it, the Bill before us is exactly what we were debating yesterday....

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA) I beg to move the following Procedural Motion: THAT, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 120, this House resolves to reduce the publication period of the Supplementary Appropriation Bill (National Assembly Bill No.32 of 2024) from seven days to one day. The justification is...

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. This Department is very important. In the Division of Revenue Bill, we had a whooping Ksh400 billion going to our counties as equitable share. We also have conditional grants to a tune of Ksh42 billion. There are organs...

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I agree it is a very critical State Department. Just to bring Members up to speed, in the Supplementary Estimates II, there was actually an increment for this State Department. However, I also fully support my senior, Hon....

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I agree with the sentiments of all Members. Yes, we need money for TVET institutions and the entire education sector. However, Hon. Junet and Hon. Gathoni Wamuchomba, we have a decision to make as a House. Currently, the...

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I beg to move: THAT, the Schedule be amended in Vote 1026 by: 6th June 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 36 Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA)The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari): Chairperson of the DepartmentalCommittee on Administration and Internal...

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA)

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. The outcome of this Budget is empirical. You cannot fight with figures. Irrigation is not just about a scheme. Nowadays, what we do in irrigation focuses on households. Empirically, the harvest of maize from last year to date...

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA)

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA)

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Chairman. I beg to move: THAT, the Committee of Supply do report to the House its consideration of the Budget Estimates for the Financial Year 2024/2025 and its approval thereof with amendments. (Hon. Gladys Boss consulted with other Members)...

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I beg to move that the House do agree with the Report of the Committee of Supply in its consideration of the Budget Estimates for the Financial Year 2024/2025 and, pursuant to the provisions of Article 221 of...

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. I beg to move: THAT, the First Schedule to the Bill be amended—

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA)

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Chairman. I thank my brother and our leader, Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah. We had a discussion and the same Vote that he was very concerned that it was not funded, has been funded adequately. That is in regard to the...

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move that the Committee do report to the House its consideration of the Supplementary Appropriation Bill (National Assembly Bill No.32 of 2024) and its approval thereof with amendments. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) (The House resumed) IN...

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA) Hon. Deputy Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report. I request the Member for Kikuyu Constituency and Leader of the Majority Party, Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah, to second.

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA) Thank you very much, I beg to move that the Supplementary Appropriation Bill National Assembly Bill No.34 of 2024 be now read a Third Time. Hon. Deputy Speaker I also thank every Member of this House for being very supportive throughout the process. Your insights...

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA) Thank you very much. As I said in the beginning when we were moving this motion for the benefit of Members who were not here yesterday afternoon, I want to state that the budget we have passed in the second reading is Ksh4.006 trillion. We...

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA)

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA) Hon. Deputy Speaker, I beg to move the following Motion: THAT, this House adopts the Report of the Budget and Appropriations Committee on the Second Supplementary Estimates for the Financial Year FIRST SCHEDULE SECOND SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES FOR FY 2023/2024 (IN KSHS) VOTE CODE VOTE &...

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA)SCHEDULE BUDGET COMMITTEE FINANCIAL RECOMMENDATIONS VOTE/PROGRA MME CODES & 2023/2024 SUPPLEMENTARY No.2 ESTIMATES 5th June 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 54 Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA)SCHEDULE BUDGET COMMITTEE FINANCIAL RECOMMENDATIONS VOTE/PROGRA MME CODES & 2023/2024 SUPPLEMENTARY No.2 ESTIMATES BUDGET COMMITTEE FINANCIAL RECOMMENDATIONS VOTE/PROGRA MME CODES & 2023/2024...

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I want to assure my colleagues that the next Motion is the same in terms of the talking notes. Therefore, when they get a chance, they can utilise the same points on the next two Motions, the Mediation...

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table: Report of the Budget and Appropriations Committee on its consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the Financial Year 2024/2025 and the Medium Term and the...

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. That was for the tabling. I request that this House adopts the Report of the Budget and Appropriations Committee on the Budget Policy Statement…

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motion: THAT, this House adopts the Report of the Budget and Appropriations Committee on its consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure and the Medium Term for the Financial Year 2024 to 2025,...

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. As I reply, I request Members to come in the afternoon. We shall be debating a very weighty matter, that is the Budget of the Financial Year 2024/2025. I thank all Members who have contributed. I beg to...

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I wish to thank the Members of this House. They gave us a role as the mediation team that was appointed by the Speaker to negotiate with the Senate in the Mediation Committee. There were different figures that had been proposed in...

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA) Hon. Deputy Speaker, this document contains many figures. I will sit down with my brother to go through it. The data and information are correct. However, it needs to be read alongside all the others. But I will guide him.

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I beg to move the following Motion:

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA) Hon. Deputy Speaker, if there is a microphone there, I will oblige to go there.

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I wish to move the following Motion: 5th June 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 7 Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA)THAT, this House adopts the Report of the Budget and Appropriations Committee on its consideration of the Estimates of Revenue...

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA)the departmental committees, including commas and full stops. The Budget and Appropriations Committee thinks that they know better about the ministries, departments and agencies (MDAs) which they oversee more than us. That is why the whole process has been very consultative.This Order Paper that is so...

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA) Hon. Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motion: THAT, pursuant to the provision of Article 113 (2) of the Constitution and Standing Orders 153, that this House adopts the Report of the Mediation Committee on the Division of Revenue Bill, (National Assembly...

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA) I am well guided. Hon. Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motion: THAT, this House adopts the Report of the Budget and Appropriations Committee on the Second Supplementary Estimates for the Financial Year

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA) Hon. Speaker, I beg to give notices of the following Motions: That this House adopts the Report Budget and Appropriation Committee...

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA) Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Papers: Reports of the Budget and Appropriations Committee on its consideration of:

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, as I wind up, I request this House to agree with the Budget and Appropriations Committee and reject the proposed amendments by the Senate. Let us proceed to a mediation so that we safeguard critical areas we have already ring-fenced, like the...

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, we are dealing with a deficit to GDP ratio of 2.9 per cent, which is the right trajectory for our economy. It is already giving the right signals to our markets. That is why we see the cost of borrowing domestically and...

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I will take a very short time. I, therefore, request Members to listen to one another if possible. I have listened to all the Members who have contributed in the House this afternoon and I agree with all...

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg the Members to afford me a few minutes so that we understand each other. Whereas it is obligatory for me to move this Motion, I also rise to actually reject the Motion based on several things and reasons that I...

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA)

Order, Members! Order! Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, the Motion before us is very important. As I said, whereas it is my obligation, as the Chairperson of the Budget and Appropriations Committee, to move this Motion, I reject the amendments by the Senate for several reasons that...

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker. (Hon. Millie Odhiambo-Mabona spoke off the record)

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I agree with the Leader of the Majority Party, Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah as much as I agree with the Leader of the Minority Party, Hon. Opiyo. I also agree with Hon. Osoro as much as I agree with Hon. Junet.

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I would like to agree with all the Members who have contributed this afternoon. I agree with the Members on both the right and the left side of the Speaker. I agree with the Leader of the Majority...

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I am on queue for the next Motion.

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA)Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the Division of Revenue Bill (National Assembly Bill No.14 of 2024) be now read a Second Time. I will take very few minutes to move this Bill. I want to thank the Members of the Budget and Appropriations...

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro (Kiharu, UDA) Thank you for that chance, Hon. Speaker. I thank all Members who have contributed to this Motion. We have taken note of all concerns. Thank you very much for your invaluable contribution to the entire budget-making process. With those many words, I beg to reply.