John Mutunga Kanyuithia

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for the opportunity to add my voice to this very important debate on the proposed legislation concerning the management of the Equalisation Fund. The drafters of the Constitution of Kenya, 2010 thought it wise to...

Hon (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Speaker, we have had a few issues in the sector, especially the issue of vaccination, which needed to be properly delivered to Kenyans. It could have been anybody here and any Embassy, in this House or this country. However, Hon. Speaker,...

Hon (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker, for the opportunity to contribute to The Adoption of the Committee Report on the Appointments. I know Dr Karanja very well. I worked and retired from the World Bank with him. The World Bank is not...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) I may not be able to answer that question competitively. Only the Ministry can tell us.

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, the Ministry said that the money was apportioned but it was not released. So, they do not have the Exchequer. This is a going concern and not something they can give a definite date. I am not defending the...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I stand pursuant to Standing Order 44 (2) (c) to respond to a request for a statement by Hon. Walter Owino on 14th November 2024 regarding the revival of South

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I hope I have not bored the lady. She sounds quite fed up. (Laughter) 3rd December 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 58 Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA)with devolved units. Therefore, what the counties demanded as per the...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker for protecting me. I share the name ‘John’ with the Hon. Member. He took the other chance that I was given. I stand to support the adoption of the waiver of the moratorium. Electricity is key to...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for the opportunity to contribute. This Bill is important to us. We all know exactly where we have come from, and we know the work the Committee has done to come to this point. We lost the...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) I wish to lay it on the Table of the House.

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) I will do exactly that, Hon. Speaker.

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) I will do the needful, Hon. Speaker. Even as I do that, I think it is important for the Member to realise that it is not…

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Thank you Hon. Speaker. I have a response from the Ministry of Agriculture and Livestock Development on the Statement Hon. Dorice Donya requested. The request had three parts and the response is structured in three parts. The first part deals with the...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Speaker, I have another response for Hon. Brighton Yegon.

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move a further amendment to Clause 8 by inserting the words “choice of”: THAT, Clause 8 of the Bill be amended by inserting the following new subclause immediately after subclause (1) — “ (2) for purposes...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairman, Clause 8 of the Bill is on qualifications for appointment to the Coffee Board of Kenya. Clause 8 (1) talks of the qualifications of the persons appointed under Clause 7 (1) (a) ,

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairman, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 79 of the Bill be further amended in sub-clause (3) by providing that a person with a Doctor of Philosophy will have an added advantage. Hon. Temporary Chairman, Clause 79 proposes qualifications of...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) There is nothing materially wrong with having it as prescribed.

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) I beg to move: THAT, the Bill be amended by deleting Clause 48. The reason is that we have introduced a New Clause 45A to improve its flow. The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai) : Thank you. (Question of the amendment...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) I would like to refer the Members to a New Clause 45A, which will be moved later after we are done with the amendment. Clause 45A is exactly like Clause 48. We have brought it forward for purposes of enhancing the rule...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I agree with Hon. Oundo's amendment. I think it makes a lot of sense. The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai) : Thank you very much. (Question, that the word to be left out be left out, put and...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I would like the Members to go to the definitions where an “exchange” is defined as a company incorporated under the Companies Act and licensed by the Capital Markets Authority as an exchange for trading in clean coffee. That...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 57 of the Bill be amended— Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move: THAT, the Bill be amended in Clause 60–

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) I beg to move: THAT, Clause 61 of the Bill be amended in— Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) I beg to move: THAT, Clause 64 of the Bill be amended—

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, we have put 10 per centum to counties growing coffee on a pro-rata basis. Pro-rata means that the more coffee you grow, the more support you get. The 10 per cent will be apportioned to crop development in those...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA)Is there somebody else?(Loud consultations) Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. One, the reason we are saying that 5 per cent should go to CRTI is because we want it to develop technologies, innovations,...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move: THAT, the Bill be amended by deleting Clause 73 and substituting therefor the following new clause— 26th November 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 68 Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA)Term of appointment. Hon. (Dr)...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I apologise for saying we limited the number of persons who can be co-opted. We removed the limit. I will tell you the reason. The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai) : You removed the limit? Hon. (Dr) John...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) We know that allowances are also remunerations. Therefore, there is no need to say allowances and remunerations. We just call them remunerations. Therefore, we deleted the words. The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai) : Thank you Chairman. (Question, that the words...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Chair, we are discussing reality here. We are talking about a research institute that will come up with innovations. (Loud consultations) Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Chair, I want to be heard. We gave everybody a chance....

Hon (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) You were teaching something different! That is the minimum required. That is the reality. The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai) : Hon. Chairman, this is your Bill, so do not address Hon. Kaluma. Hon (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA)...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, let us first be guided by Hon. Nguchine on which standard is good. Which standard is he talking about? 26th November 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 77 Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA)Secondly, we do not want to...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia We want to equate the offence with the penalty. Regarding the initial one, I can read Clause 94 (2) (b) : "In furnishing such information, if a person makes a statement which they know to be false, they commit an offence and shall be liable,...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) I just wanted to say that this is not about the research information or the research product but information about the institution. Secondly, people hide under Article 35 of the Constitution on the release of information or the right to information, even...

Hon (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I would like to read the provision for the record of the House. Clause 95 (1) reads as follows: Pursuant to Article 24 of the Constitution, the right to access to information under Article 35 of the Constitution shall...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 101 of the Bill be amended— 26th November 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 84 Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA)The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai): Hon. Chairman you have an amendment....

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 105 of the Bill be amended by inserting the words “and shall undergo a skills audit to determine suitability” immediately after the words “Cabinet Secretary”. The essence of this amendment is to have...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I declare to Hon. Mwenje, with a lot of respect, that I do not qualify to be a staff of 26th November 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 86 Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA)the Coffee Research and Training...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, when we were discussing Clause 48, I said it had been moved to become the New Clause 45A. It was moved exactly the way it was for purposes of alignment. We have not introduced anything, Hon. Mwenje. (Several Members...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, first, we have defined the term “licensing authority” in the definitions immediately after the definition of the term “institute”. The term “licensing authority” means the Board, the county government, or the Capital Markets Authority. Either one of them is...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 2 of the Bill be amended by—

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) First of all, there is need for us to include direct sales. I agree with Hon. Gichimu that the definition of a buyer is not included. We need to consider his amendment. On the other issue of smallholders, I would like to...

Hon (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that I be allowed to recommit Clause 8 of the Bill.

Hon (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the Motion be amended by inserting the following words: Subject to recommittal of Clause 8.

Hon (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) I request Hon. Gichimu to second.

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Yes, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. Let us now think as a House. First, the provision concerns if somebody giving such information makes a statement they know to be false. That person is lying or committing an offence. I think the Ksh50,000 provision is...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 11 of the Bill be amended— Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 12 of the Bill be amended by deleting subclause (2)...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) I beg to move: THAT, Clause 23 of the Bill be amended— Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 24 of the Bill be amended by—

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 25 of the Bill be amended—

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, that amendment is agreeable because there are three licensing authorities. The county governments, the Board and the Capital Markets Authorities (CMA) . Even if we say it is a licensing authority, it is synonymous. (Question, that the words to...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I would like to refer Members to the Second Schedule of the Bill. It is explicitly clear on which licences, permits or certificates would be levied by which organisation. Warehouse licence, coffee nursery certificates, pulping station licence, grower-miller licence,...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Chairlady, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 30 of the Bill be amended by deleting subclause (2) and substituting therefor the following new subclause— Cap.485A “ (2) A person shall not conduct the business of a coffee exchange, agent or offer...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Chairlady, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 33 of the Bill be amended in subclause (5) , by deleting the words “county executive committee member” and substituting therefor the words “county government”. We are only changing the terminology from “county executive...

Hon (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 37 of the Bill be amended— Hon (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Okay. The idea is to change the terms from county executive committee member to county government in both cases....

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. The Committee brought forward Part XI and Part X, which are dealing with the Coffee Research and Training Institute for purposes of enhancing the flow.

Hon (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 39 of the Bill be amended—

Hon (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 40 of the Bill be amended in subclause (1) by inserting the words “and licensed” immediately after the words “been registered”. The import of this amendment is that registration alone is not sufficient....

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 42 of the Bill be amended— Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 43 of the Bill be amended— Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA)Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move:THAT, Clause 45 of the Bill be amended in subclause(3)by deleting the word “comprehensive” appearing in paragraph(b). We removed the words “comprehensive insurance” because we do not talk about it when insuring crops or crops products.(Question of...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Thank you for the opportunity to make a few comments on the President’s Address. The Address comes subject to Article 132 (1) (c) . It articulates measures towards realisation of national values and principles of governance in this country. These values are...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. Let me conclude by saying that this report has looked at equality very carefully. We have spread projects across the country by looking at different areas to make sure that every part of this country is developing....

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) It is possible to get the answers next week, Hon. Speaker. I believe they are all available.

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) That will happen, Hon. Speaker.

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA)

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Deputy Speaker, what the Deputy Leader of Majority Party is saying is that we have no quorum. I rise under Standing Order 35 that this House considers the business that we are discussing to be lacking sufficient quorum for any decision...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) On a point of order, Hon. Deputy Speaker. 20th November 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 67

Hon (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I would like the Cabinet Secretary to confirm something. First, we are not banning the harvesting of macadamia nuts because of pressure from the manufacturers or the processors. They lobby very strongly. The last time there was...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Chairlady, I have no objection to that proposal by the Deputy Leader of the Majority Party. Thank you.

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. Let me inform the House that today’s status quo is because we have a lot of business in the Order Paper. We should have stood down the business. Members of my Committee and Members of the Coffee...

Hon (Dr.) John Mutunga Kanyuithia Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I stand on the view that the Cabinet Secretary needs to be better prepared, and with reasons. We are talking about a sensitive issue in the sense that it is science, and let us not joke around. There is a problem....

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I am happy to be part of this discussion today to actually support this Bill and also to hear our brothers and sisters from the Coast. County governments were created as units of development and any development worldwide requires...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I am very disappointed that we are discussing an issue of no consequence in this House. Those games were taken to Mombasa deliberately because Kenya has to showcase to the East African countries, especially the East African Legislative Assembly...

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

Hon. (Dr) John Mutunga Kanyuithia (Tigania West, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, thank you very much for giving me an opportunity to speak today. As a House of records, and a House that is supposed to defend Kenyans, we should be data-oriented. We should use facts. Any statement that comes here...