George Peter Opondo Kaluma

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Kaguchia, we are talking about maternal health. But we will give Hon. Kawanjiku one minute to respond to the point of order.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) The Speaker was smiling because he could be one of the people falling under the category that Hon. Makali is talking about. (Laughter)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) No, we have Hon. Members here.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Which characters are you talking about?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) What is out of order, Hon. Kaguchia?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) You will have five minutes the next time this matter is scheduled for the House’s debate at Second Reading. ADJOURNMENT The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Members, the time being 7.01

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. John Kaguchia.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) One minute will be given to Hon. Naomi Waqo, who sits through all the proceedings.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma)The Members speaking should

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Beatrice Elachi.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Esther Passaris.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Your explanation is adequate, and Hon. Kaguchia now understands. Hon. Maina Mathenge. 14th October 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 43

Hon. Peter Kaluma (Homa Bay Town, ODM) Hon. Deputy Speaker, there is a difference between Central Kenya, Eastern Region and Mount Kenya Region. My brother is referring to Central Kenya and yet he is talking of Meru, which is in Eastern Region. The debate was about Central Kenya. Meru is...

Hon. Peter Kaluma (Homa Bay Town, ODM) On a point of order, Hon. Deputy Speaker.

Hon. Peter Kaluma (Homa Bay Town, ODM) Hon. Deputy Speaker, thank you very much. Let me congratulate the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs for a good Report, which we have read through. [The Deputy Speaker (Hon. Gladys Boss) left the Chair] 24th September 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 23...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Under the Departmental Committee on Administration and Security, we budgeted Ksh400 million to build that facility. That thing cannot be beyond Ksh400 million. It is complete and ready. Remember, in terms of implementation, we were questioned why we contract private individuals when we have...

Hon. Peter Kaluma (Homa Bay Town, ODM) Hon. Deputy Speaker, for the avoidance of doubt, let me just reiterate that I beg to move that The Kenya Roads (Amendment) (No.3) Bill (National Assembly Bill No.34 of 2025) be now read a Second Time. Hon. Owen Baya intervened when I was...

Hon. Peter Kaluma (Homa Bay Town, ODM) I need more time because I was just getting to the meat of the matter, but I will be brief. Give me only five minutes, Hon. Deputy Speaker. We want signages so that it is clear whether a road belongs to the county...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) What are you saying to the nation? What was the contract price for the project? What were the contractors demanding as their payment for the variations? 23rd September 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 47

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) How much has been paid?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) That is that thing next to...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Which was to be a parking.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma)Have you recommended prosecution?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Then you may proceed.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Is the matter before court under active litigation or is it just lying there?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Wangwe, it is always a pleasure to preside when you are moving a Report. I wish all Audit Committees are like this. I know all the Members who have been with you in this Report and the previous one can agree with you...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) What does administration cover? Does it include matters falling under security and police?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Yes, Hon. Martin Owino.

Hon. Peter Kaluma (Homa Bay Town, ODM) Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker. I beg to move that The Kenya Roads (Amendment) (No.3) Bill (National Assembly Bill No.34 of 2025) be now read a Second Time. This Bill, though appearing in my name, is brought on behalf of the Legislative...

Hon. Peter Kaluma (Homa Bay Town, ODM) Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. The interruption has given me the opportunity to consult the Clerks-at-the-Table, who were concerned that I may not have moved the Bill for Second Reading. I did.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Order, Hon. Members. Hon. Martin Owino, you will have nine minutes to second when the matter is next listed to be transacted by the House Business Committee (HBC) . Hon. Members, the time being 7.03 p.m., this House stands adjourned until Wednesday, 24th September...

Hon. Peter Kaluma (Homa Bay Town, ODM) Hon. Speaker, this handbag belongs to Hon. Ng’elechei, who was previously sitting here. Men do not touch ladies’ bags in my culture. Could Hon. Ng’elechei come for her bag? (Laughter)

Hon. Peter Kaluma (Homa Bay Town, ODM) On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai) : What is out of order, Hon. Kaluma? Hon. Peter Kaluma (Homa Bay Town, ODM) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, everything is out of order. The Leader of the Majority...

Hon. Peter Kaluma (Homa Bay Town, ODM) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, my only point is to say that the matter being raised by Hon. Makali Mulu was raised by Hon. Kajwang’, and there was a substantive ruling on it. We are now contributing clause by clause based on the information we...

Hon. Peter Kaluma (Homa Bay Town, ODM) Hon. Temporary Speaker, harmonisation of the amendments was ordered by Hon. Speaker the previous time. We are making good progress and I think we have even agreed that straight from here if Hon. Speaker allows the stepping down of this Motion, we are...

Hon. Peter Kaluma (Homa Bay Town, ODM) Thank you, Hon. Chairlady. The proposed amendment may sound good. However, my fear is that it is subject to Article 114 of the Constitution which says that, for such an amendment to be moved, it must have prior approval and the Report of...

Hon. Peter Kaluma (Homa Bay Town, ODM) Hon. Temporary Chairman, I am very happy that the Office of the Auditor-General has been adequately funded before, and even this time. Number one, what we would like to see is not just the implementation of the audit reports, but a situation where...

Hon. Peter Kaluma (Homa Bay Town, ODM) Hon. Temporary Chairman, Article 249 of the Constitution requires us to adequately fund those commissions. I am concerned that since you and I came to this Parliament… The Temporary Chairman (Hon. David Ochieng’) : On 28th March 2013. Hon. Peter Kaluma (Homa Bay...

Hon. Peter Kaluma (Homa Bay Town, ODM) Sorry? The Temporary Chairman (Hon. David Ochieng’) : You are saying out of order. What is out of order? Hon. Peter Kaluma (Homa Bay Town, ODM) Hon. Temporary Chairman, I have not said anything. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. David Ochieng’) : Okay. Go...

Hon. Peter Kaluma (Homa Bay Town, ODM) I thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. I serve in the Committee under which IPOA falls. Our police officers have refused the reforms that were brought by the new Constitution. They are still behaving like a force, not a service. Those police officers are...

Hon. Peter Kaluma (Homa Bay Town, ODM) Hon. Temporary Chairman, the budget for the Judiciary is now stipulated at nearly Ksh27 billion. I want a confirmation from the Chairman of the Budget and Appropriations Committee that this includes the development budget for the courts across the country. Hon Temporary Chairman,...

Hon. Peter Kaluma (Homa Bay Town, ODM) Hon. Temporary Chairman, I wanted to propose that a sum of Ksh500 million be deducted from this money. This is money that has been put in this Vote to cater for something called the Senate Oversight Fund. Under Article 240 of the Constitution,...

Hon. Peter Kaluma (Homa Bay Town, ODM) Thank you very much, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I am a very happy Member of Parliament today. I have gone through the Votes and also read through the Estimates, and it pleases me that for the first time in the history of this country,...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Add him a minute.

Hon. Peter Kaluma (Homa Bay Town, ODM) Thank you, for that recognition.

Hon. Peter Kaluma (Homa Bay Town, ODM) Hon. Temporary Speaker, you know somebody like Prof Francis Aduol who was approved here yesterday.

Hon. Peter Kaluma (Homa Bay Town, ODM) You saw his vetting process? Do you know that before the broad-based Government, such a Kenyan would not have come before this House for approval? That is why we are talking about equity. We are paying a lot of national debt and yet,...

Hon. Peter Kaluma (Homa Bay Town, ODM) As I inform Hon. Kajwang’, I request Members of the Budget and Appropriations Committee that as we talk about equity, we are 5th June 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 145 Hon. Peter Kaluma (Homa Bay Town, ODM)not saying this lightly. I heard the Cabinet...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Victor Koech.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) The Whip of the Jubilee Party in the National Assembly, Hon. Sabina Chege.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Thank you, Chief Whip of the Jubilee Party. Hon. Mark Mwenje will now contribute.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Order, Hon. Mark Mwenje. Your Speaker knows better, and the substantive Speaker will, at his own chosen time, brief you. However, I can assure you that the Court has made a very good decision that secures the existence of the roads agencies. It is...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Our substantive Speaker, the Rt. Hon. (Dr) Francis Masika Moses Wetang’ula, will brief you at his own time. Do not worry, and do not debate it. I have also seen some people wiping their tears by distorting that Ruling through the media, but just...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Daniel Manduku, Member for Nyaribari Masaba.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Deputy Leader of the Majority Party, Hon. Owen Baya.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Jematiah will be followed by Hon. Joseph Oyula, in that order, because of gender and ranking considerations.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Joseph Oyula.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Makali Mulu, the Mover should be replying soon. Are you very anxious to speak? Please make your remarks before the Mover steps into the House.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Yes, Hon. John Makali.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Wanjiku Muhia and the Chair of the Departmental Committee on Education will have two minutes each to register their comments, and then the Mover will reply.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Julius Melly.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) The Mover will now reply.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) I will defer the putting of the Question to a future date. 5th June 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 162 ADJOURNMENT The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) Hon. Members, be upstanding. The time being 7.04 p.m., this House stands adjourned until Tuesday, 10th June 2025,...

Hon. Peter Kaluma (Homa Bay Town, ODM) I thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker, and my teacher of law at the University of Nairobi. If it were not for how you intervened in my life and the lives of very many others, similar to how the teachers who have accompanied our...

Hon. Peter Kaluma (Homa Bay Town, ODM) Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. The Parliament of Kenya has two Houses: the National Assembly, where you are, and the Senate. The roles of the National Assembly are representation, legislation and oversight. However, there is an additional role given to this House of...

Hon. Peter Kaluma (Homa Bay Town, ODM) Yes. I have done the Budget preparations and I think they now understand it. I have emphasised that we are debating on how the Budget Estimates will go to various ministries and sectors of the economy to support the public services of the...

Hon. Peter Kaluma (Homa Bay Town, ODM) Hon. Temporary Speaker, earlier on, I had a chance to welcome students. I have just started contributing to the Budget.

Hon. Peter Kaluma (Homa Bay Town, ODM) Thank you. Hon. Temporary Speaker. We take very many things for granted. This would not have been possible without the broad- based Government. A government that is seeking equity, inclusivity and integration of all Kenyans in governance unlike before. I thank President Ruto....

Hon. Peter Kaluma (Homa Bay Town, ODM) I thank my party leader, the man who mentored me, the Rt. Hon. Raila Amolo Odinga, for bringing this country together. With this togetherness and objectivity, we can now see that the entire country belongs to all of us. Areas that were categorised...

Hon. Peter Kaluma (Homa Bay Town, ODM) On a point of information, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

Hon. Peter Kaluma (Homa Bay Town, ODM) Hon. Temporary Speaker, Homa Bay Town Constituency hosted the whole country for Madaraka Day celebrations. I want to thank everybody for coming to Homa Bay. I also want to thank the President for allowing us to host that national holiday celebration. The only...