David Ouma Ochieng'

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Hon. Temporary Speaker, there are issues I am really passionate about. If we want to be like Singapore, Malaysia or South Korea, it is not the big Chinese or Taiwanese companies that will grow us. It is the SMEs in this country that will do...

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Thank you so much, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for rewarding me for the whipping on the very unfortunate point of order. I support the Motion by Hon. Beatrice Elachi. We must do justice to the sector that feeds and supports almost three- quarters of this country....

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Thank you so much.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Wanjala, you are out of order.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) This chance goes to Hon. Catherine Omanyo of Busia, followed by Hon. Stephen Mogaka of West Mugirango.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng) Hon. Members, this proposal has a long way to go. I am certain by the time it is read for the First and the Second Times, all of us will get a chance to speak about it. If I had more time, I would...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Let us have the Member for Ijara.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Let us have the Member for Kuresoi North, Hon. Alfred Mutai, followed by the Member for Ijara. 3rd November 2022 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 66

Hon. Temporary Speaker (David Ochieng’) Hon. Wanjala, you are totally out of order. You cannot bow at the middle of the walk way. (Laughter)

Hon. Temporary Speaker (David Ochieng’) Hon. David Kiaraho.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng)Where were you sleeping?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng) Where would you sleep, Hon. Wanjala? 3rd November 2022 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 64

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng) Hon. Wanjala, followed by Hon. Kiaraho.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you so much. This chance now goes to Hon. Guyo Jaldesa, followed by Hon. Caleb Mule.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng) Hon. Jerusha Momanyi.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you so much, Senior, Hon. Murugara. This chance will go to the Member for Likuyani, Hon. Innocent Mugabe. Hon. Jerusha Momanyi of Nyamira will follow.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) We are doing so well. Hon. Lekumontare of Samburu East, followed by the Hon. Gitonga Murugara of Tharaka.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Mogaka.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon Wanjala, please, allow Hon. Catherine Omanyo to make her contribution.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you so much, Hon. Odipo. 3rd November 2022 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 51 The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)Members, I know that everyone wants to speak; and all of us came here the time we did. I do not want pressure to skip anybody;...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) I wonder how much you saved for us. The next speaker would be Hon. Pauline Lenguris from Samburu.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you so much for saving our time. Let us have Hon. Paul Mwirigi followed by Hon. Julius Meli, then we go to the other side.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you so much, Hon. Melly. Hon. Members, just a small bit of information. The reason Members are talking about turning up when the day to vote comes is that the most important thing is raising a list of 233 Members on the day...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you so much, Hon. Maungu. The opportunity now goes to Hon. Basil.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Of course, it is not within your powers. Go ahead, Hon. Okuome.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Makali, when you segregate do you put together or separate? Hon. John Makali (Kanduyi, FORD – K) : You separate all of them. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) So, do you mean we segregate? Hon. John Makali (Kanduyi, FORD – K) :...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Wanjala, you are out of order.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) This chance goes to Hon. Catherine Omanyo of Busia, followed by Hon. Stephen Mogaka of West Mugirango.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng) Hon. Members, this proposal has a long way to go. I am certain by the time it is read for the First and the Second Times, all of us will get a chance to speak about it. If I had more time, I would...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Let us have the Member for Ijara.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Let us have the Member for Kuresoi North, Hon. Alfred Mutai, followed by the Member for Ijara. 3rd November 2022 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 66

Hon. Temporary Speaker (David Ochieng’) Hon. Wanjala, you are totally out of order. You cannot bow at the middle of the walk way. (Laughter)

Hon. Temporary Speaker (David Ochieng’) Hon. David Kiaraho.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng)Where were you sleeping?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng) Where would you sleep, Hon. Wanjala? 3rd November 2022 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 64

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng) Hon. Wanjala, followed by Hon. Kiaraho.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you so much. This chance now goes to Hon. Guyo Jaldesa, followed by Hon. Caleb Mule.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng) Hon. Jerusha Momanyi.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you so much, Senior, Hon. Murugara. This chance will go to the Member for Likuyani, Hon. Innocent Mugabe. Hon. Jerusha Momanyi of Nyamira will follow.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) We are doing so well. Hon. Lekumontare of Samburu East, followed by the Hon. Gitonga Murugara of Tharaka.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Mogaka.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon Wanjala, please, allow Hon. Catherine Omanyo to make her contribution.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you so much, Hon. Odipo. 3rd November 2022 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 51 The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)Members, I know that everyone wants to speak; and all of us came here the time we did. I do not want pressure to skip anybody;...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) I wonder how much you saved for us. The next speaker would be Hon. Pauline Lenguris from Samburu.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you so much for saving our time. Let us have Hon. Paul Mwirigi followed by Hon. Julius Meli, then we go to the other side.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you so much, Hon. Melly. Hon. Members, just a small bit of information. The reason Members are talking about turning up when the day to vote comes is that the most important thing is raising a list of 233 Members on the day...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you so much, Hon. Maungu. The opportunity now goes to Hon. Basil.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Of course, it is not within your powers. Go ahead, Hon. Okuome.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Makali, when you segregate do you put together or separate? Hon. John Makali (Kanduyi, FORD – K) : You separate all of them. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) So, do you mean we segregate? Hon. John Makali (Kanduyi, FORD – K) :...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Wanjala, you are out of order.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) This chance goes to Hon. Catherine Omanyo of Busia, followed by Hon. Stephen Mogaka of West Mugirango.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng) Hon. Members, this proposal has a long way to go. I am certain by the time it is read for the First and the Second Times, all of us will get a chance to speak about it. If I had more time, I would...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Let us have the Member for Ijara.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Let us have the Member for Kuresoi North, Hon. Alfred Mutai, followed by the Member for Ijara. 3rd November 2022 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 66

Hon. Temporary Speaker (David Ochieng’) Hon. Wanjala, you are totally out of order. You cannot bow at the middle of the walk way. (Laughter)

Hon. Temporary Speaker (David Ochieng’) Hon. David Kiaraho.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng)Where were you sleeping?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng) Where would you sleep, Hon. Wanjala? 3rd November 2022 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 64

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng) Hon. Wanjala, followed by Hon. Kiaraho.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you so much. This chance now goes to Hon. Guyo Jaldesa, followed by Hon. Caleb Mule.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng) Hon. Jerusha Momanyi.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you so much, Senior, Hon. Murugara. This chance will go to the Member for Likuyani, Hon. Innocent Mugabe. Hon. Jerusha Momanyi of Nyamira will follow.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) We are doing so well. Hon. Lekumontare of Samburu East, followed by the Hon. Gitonga Murugara of Tharaka.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Mogaka.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon Wanjala, please, allow Hon. Catherine Omanyo to make her contribution.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you so much, Hon. Odipo. 3rd November 2022 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 51 The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)Members, I know that everyone wants to speak; and all of us came here the time we did. I do not want pressure to skip anybody;...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) I wonder how much you saved for us. The next speaker would be Hon. Pauline Lenguris from Samburu.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you so much for saving our time. Let us have Hon. Paul Mwirigi followed by Hon. Julius Meli, then we go to the other side.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you so much, Hon. Melly. Hon. Members, just a small bit of information. The reason Members are talking about turning up when the day to vote comes is that the most important thing is raising a list of 233 Members on the day...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you so much, Hon. Maungu. The opportunity now goes to Hon. Basil.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Of course, it is not within your powers. Go ahead, Hon. Okuome.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Makali, when you segregate do you put together or separate? Hon. John Makali (Kanduyi, FORD – K) : You separate all of them. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) So, do you mean we segregate? Hon. John Makali (Kanduyi, FORD – K) :...

Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker (David Ochieng) Time is up. Extra time will be given to you when debate on the Motion resumes next. ADJOURNMENT 26th October 2022 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 38 Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker (David Ochieng)Published by Clerk of the National Assembly Parliament Buildings Nairobi 26th October 2022 NATIONAL...

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I stand here to support the Motion, with the impending amendment by Hon. Pukose. Things happen in this country that people take for granted. Some time back, a president would just appoint his ministers and no one would question. Last...

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I stand here to support the Motion, with the impending amendment by Hon. Pukose. Things happen in this country that people take for granted. Some time back, a president would just appoint his ministers and no one would question. Last...

Hon. David Ochieng' (Ugenya, MDG) On a point of Order.

Hon. David Ochieng' (Ugenya, MDG) Hon. Deputy Speaker, I have a lot of respect for my friend and neighbour who probably is my senior. Member for Ugunja, you could be my senior. Hon. Deputy Speaker, is he pre-empting the debate on the names that could come to this Floor? Is...

Hon. David Ochieng' (Ugenya, MDG) On a point of Order.

Hon. David Ochieng' (Ugenya, MDG) Hon. Deputy Speaker, I have a lot of respect for my friend and neighbour who probably is my senior. Member for Ugunja, you could be my senior. Hon. Deputy Speaker, is he pre-empting the debate on the names that could come to this Floor? Is...