James Nyikal

Hon. (Dr.) James Nyikal (Seme, ODM) Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairman--- The Temporary Deputy Chairman (Hon. Patrick Mariru) : Hon. Nyikal, let us first hear from the Chair, as she might give some direction to enable us save on time. Hon. Chair, as you speak to it, please ensure that you...

Hon. (Dr.) James Nyikal (Seme, ODM) Will it be appropriate if after the word “Authority” you just insert the words “county governments”? An

“and county governments”. Hon. (Dr.) James Nyikal (Seme, ODM) “and county governments”? Then that is correct. (Question, that the words to be inserted be inserted, put and agreed to) (Clause 5 as amended agreed to) Clause 6 The Temporary Deputy Chairman (Hon. Patrick Mariru) : Let us have the Chair.

Hon. James Nyikal (Seme, ODM) I appreciate that we need to pass this and move quickly. However, if you are talking about consultation, I do not understand why we are rushing a lot of things. If we are just saying that the Cabinet Secretary (CS) and the county government 'shall',...

Hon. (Dr.) James Nyikal (Seme, ODM) Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairman, I appreciate the principle that we can put in regulations, but I also see a trend as we go along that after every clause, the Cabinet Secretary is mentioned. I suggest that the Committee looks into the Bill and introduces...

Hon. (Dr.) James Nyikal (Seme, ODM) I think the penalty provided in the New Clause 19A is not strong enough. If a person includes an industry, can you imagine if it does not do what is expected and is fined not exceeding Kshs.20,000? This is nothing, they will just pay...

Hon. (Dr.) James Nyikal (Seme, ODM) I understand that because when you say that every small sector is going to do their plan, then you will be distressing them because they do not have the capacity.I am making a suggestion. The Committee can see how to word it such that...

Hon. (Dr.) James Nyikal (Seme, ODM) On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairman. The Temporary Deputy Chairman (Hon. Patrick Mariru) : Yes, Hon Nyikal? Hon. (Dr.) James Nyikal (Seme, ODM) That sounds good. I would like to get more details because it will actually exempt some people. This...

Hon. (Dr.) James Nyikal (Seme, ODM) Is it indicated somewhere? That sounds nice.

Hon. (Dr.) James Nyikal (Seme, ODM) I agree that the two clauses are different. However, this Bill will not serve us well. You have said that Clause 19A is provided for in Clause 19, which is about preparation of waste management plans. Clause 19A is about production of waste. I...