THE PARLIAMENT OF KENYA
THE SENATE
THE HANSARD
THIRTEENTH PARLIAMENT
Fourth Session
Wednesday, 20th August, 2025 at
2.30 p.m. - Special Sitting
PARLIAMENT OF KENYA
Wednesday, 20th August, 2025 Special Sitting
DETERMINATION OF QUORUM AT COMMENCEMENT OF SITTING
Clerk, do we have quorum?
Hon. Senators, we have quorum.
Senator for Nakuru County, kindly take your seat.
Clerk, you may proceed to call the first Order.
ADMINISTRATION OF OATH
Mr. Speaker, Sir, it is my pleasure and privilege to introduce to you and to the Senate, the nominated Senator Consolata Nabwire Wakwabubi of the
United Democratic Alliance (UDA) party, elected pursuant to Article 98(1)(b) of the Constitution.
Senator, would you wish to swear or to affirm?
To swear, Mr. Speaker, Sir.
Very well. You may now proceed to take the podium. The Oath of Allegiance was administered to the following Senator- Consolata Nabwire Wakwabubi.
Congratulations hon. Senator. Welcome to the Senate.
COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE CHAIR
WELCOME TO SEN. CONSOLATA NABWIRE WAKWABUBI AND OTHER GUESTS
Hon. Senators, I have the following Communication to make.
I would like to acknowledge the presence in the Speaker's Gallery and the Public Gallery this afternoon, of a delegation consisting of family and friends of Sen. Consolata Nabwire Wakwabubi, MP. The delegation is visiting the Senate to witness the swearing- in of Sen. Wakwabubi, MP, which has just been concluded.
Hon. Senators, in our usual tradition of receiving and welcoming visitors to Parliament, I extend a warm welcome to them. On behalf of the Senate and my own behalf, I wish them a fruitful visit.
Mr. Speaker, Sir, I join you, on behalf of my colleagues, to welcome this delegation that is accompanying our latest colleague, Sen. Consolata Wakwabubi.
It is a great privilege to serve this country as a Senator. I know that as our colleague begins her legislative journey this afternoon, she has a steep learning curve.
She is joining while we have made tremendous progress in this House to ensure that we set up this institution to the levels that the Kenyan people expected of us. I congratulate her together with all the members of her delegation who have come this afternoon to witness her swearing in. I wish her well in her journey as she learns and interacts with colleagues and gets to serve the people of Kenya as a nominated Senator.
Thank you.
Hon. Senators, the floor is open for purposes of congratulating the newly sworn-in Member.
The Senate Minority Leader, you may proceed. The Senate Minority Leader (Sen. Madzayo) :
Asante, Bw. Spika. Kwanza
Proceed, Sen. Boni.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. It gives me a lot of pleasure to welcome my sister, Consolata Nabwire, to this House. I call her sister for obvious reasons. More importantly, it is a crowning moment for the effort that the United Democratic Alliance (UDA) has gone through in appreciating the contribution of one of the women who made a huge difference during our campaigns to ensure that the President forms Government.
I congratulate her and hope that she will be a success. The only comment I would like to direct to her is that her entry into the House, besides being deserved as a nomination, arose from a decision on her predecessor. It called into question the issue of integrity when you are a member of this House. Coming at this time, when the integrity of Parliament is under the microscope, I hope everybody will realize that institutions of Kenya are greater than any Kenyan, despite the office of whoever that Kenyan is.
Proceed, Senator for Nairobi City County.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Let me join you and my colleagues who have spoken before me, to welcome my sister from Bungoma. The joke is told that Bungoma has two Senators. Now--- Sen. Wakwabubi, one of the things you will learn very fast is that the Senate struggles with speaking equipment here.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Let me join you and my colleagues who have spoken before me, to welcome my sister from Bungoma. The joke is told that Bungoma has two Senators. Now--- Sen. Wakwabubi, one of the things you will learn very fast is that the Senate struggles with speaking equipment here.
Now, there will be a full complement of three, including my sister Wakwabubi, who has just joined us today.
I welcome you to the capital. Here, nobody can touch you for as long as you can say Sifuna.
Mr. Speaker, Sir, thank you for also giving me this opportunity to welcome my sister, Sen. Consolata. Sen. Consolata, you are most welcome to this good House. You will learn a lot. Count yourself one of the luckiest because you are among the 67 Members who have been brought into this House to represent the whole of Kenya. I thank the UDA party for agreeing that, that position was meant for a lady because it is a lady, Sen. Gloria, who left us. Thank you, UDA, for giving us that honour as women. Sen. Consolata, feel at home. As was said by the Senate Majority Leader, we are here to hold your hand to ensure that you feel at home and welcomed.
Thank you.
Proceed, Sen. Kavindu.
Mr. Speaker, Sir, thank you for giving me this opportunity to welcome our sister, Consolata, to this House. Karibu sana. Let us do the work and serve Kenyans with all dedication.
Proceed, Sen. Mungatana.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I welcome hon. Sen. Consolata to the House. Amongst the books that you received from the Speaker---
Can you power the microphone for hon. Sen. Mungatana? Is it on?
Yes.
You may proceed.
Mr. Speaker, Sir, I was saying one of the books that Sen. Consolata received from you is called The Compendium of the Rulings that are delivered on the floor of this House. This House - unlike another one that I will not name - is a House of learning. I invite her to be familiar with the rulings that have been given and open her mind, so that we can help this Republic move one step forward.
I thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir.
Sen. Osotsi, proceed.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I also take this opportunity to welcome our sister, Consolata, to this House and encourage her to work hard. There are a lot of
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I also take this opportunity to welcome our sister, Consolata, to this House and encourage her to work hard. There are a lot of
Sen. Kinyua, proceed.
Asante, Bw. Spika, kwa kunipa fursa hii kumkaribisha Sen. Consolata. Pia ningependa kuwakaribisha jamaa na marafiki ambao waliandamana na yeye ili kumpa heko na kongole. Sisi kama Seneti, tunakukaribisha.
Mahali ulipo keti, kuna Seneta wa Bungoma ambaye ni mchapa kazi. Sisi tuna imani kwamba umekuja kwa sababu chama kimekuchagua wewe. Kwa hivyo, hatuna shaka rohoni mwetu kwamba utaifanya kazi ambayo ulichaguliwa kuja kufanya hapa.
Ningependa kukupongeza na kukuambia karibu. Ijapokuwa umekuja wakati muhula umeenda kidogo, hatuna shaka rohoni mwetu kwamba utafanya jambo ambalo unatakiwa kufanya; kuongea kuhusu Wakenya na kutetea maslahi yao.
Asante, Bw. Spika.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for giving me this opportunity. My new Senator, you will have to decide what you are going to become in this House. The party will expect you to take party position on everything, but at some point, tell your party the truth. Unfortunately, I lost a Member who was from my delegation, Madam Orwoba. I give her all the respect. I was disappointed that she left, but we let the law take its course.
The only last point I would like to make to anybody who wants to come to this House is that to those whom much is given, much is expected.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Let me also join my colleagues in welcoming, Sen. Consolata, to this House. I would like to tell her something that this not very different from what Sen. Onyonka has said, that she should know why her predecessor was removed and that she should be very guarded in what she says in here and out. This is because sometimes, independence is only on paper, especially when you belong to the party that has nominated you.
Our senior sister, we wish you well and want to see you to the end of this term. If you are not careful with your mouth, the UDA will remove you.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Let me also join my colleagues in welcoming, Sen. Consolata, to this House. I would like to tell her something that this not very different from what Sen. Onyonka has said, that she should know why her predecessor was removed and that she should be very guarded in what she says in here and out. This is because sometimes, independence is only on paper, especially when you belong to the party that has nominated you.
Our senior sister, we wish you well and want to see you to the end of this term. If you are not careful with your mouth, the UDA will remove you.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I want to take this opportunity to welcome my cousin, Sen. Consolata to the Senate. When Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale and Sen. Osotsi stood here, they were very happy that their community is gaining numbers, while I
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I want to take this opportunity to welcome my cousin, Sen. Consolata to the Senate. When Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale and Sen. Osotsi stood here, they were very happy that their community is gaining numbers, while I
am seated next to the Senator for Nyamira County who is mourning that they have lost a number. I have tried to persuade him to catch your eye, so that he can say something. However, the state of mourning is too high; he just cannot say anything.
Asante sana, Bw. Spika. Yangu ni machache sana. Kwanza, ningependa kumwambia Sen. Consolata afuate falsafa ya “Ta-Te-Ti”, tangaza msimamo wako kama Seneta; tetea walio kuleta hapa na uwatumikie wale ambao wamefanya uletwe hapa.
Hiyo ni muhimu kwa sababu hicho kiti ambacho umeketi, kilikuwa kinakaliwa na Sen. Gloria. Kwa muda, Seneti ilijaribu kung’ang’ana naye sana ili akae hapa lakini kwa sababu riziki haivutwi kwa kamba, imemleta hapa Sen. Consolata siku ya leo. Nadhani tutampa kile ambacho anahitaji katika Seneti hii. Tulikuwa tunaongea na Sen. Mo Fire ambaye amekuwa mzuri sana na mnasihi katika hili Bunge ili ampe mwelekeo zaidi.
Asante, Bw. Spika.
Mr. Speaker, Sir, I want to welcome my colleague, Senator. When I was the Chairperson of the Law Society of Kenya (LSK) , there is one clause that was in the harmonised draft constitution that we fought very hard to delete from the 2010 Constitution. That clause was giving a political party power to initiate expulsion of a Member that can lead to that Member losing the seat. When that clause was deleted, I thought I would not in my lifetime see a party expel a Member and that Member loses her or his seat in Parliament.
Be that as it may, we welcome you, Senator, to this House. We have also created a record that for the first time in the history of Parliament, I have seen a situation where Members---
Proceed, Sen. Roba.
Asante sana, Bw. Spika. Kwanza, ningependa kumshukuru Mwenyezi Mungu kwa kumpa dada yetu, Sen. Consolata, nafasi hii. Pili ninataka kushukuru muungano wa walio wengi Bungeni kwa kumteua na kumpa fursa ya kuja katika Bunge. Tunamtakia kila la kheri Inshallah.
Kama wenzake waliokuwa hapa kabla yake, tutamuunga mkono na kumshikilia ili kuhakikisha ya kwamba amekaa vizuri katika Bunge la Seneti.
Asante, Bw. Spika.
We shall end it there, Hon. Senators. I have a communication to make.
We shall end it there, Hon. Senators. I have a communication to make.
CONVENING OF SPECIAL SITTING OF THE SENATE
Take your seat, Sen. Boni.
Take your seat, Sen. Boni.
MESSAGE FROM THE COUNTY ASSEMBLY OF KERICHO PROPOSED REMOVAL FROM OFFICE, BY IMPEACHMENT, OF THE GOVERNOR OF KERICHO COUNTY, HON. (DR.) ERICK KIPKOECH MUTAI
raised funds
2. Abuse of Office
the County Assembly.
(3) Gross Misconduct
NOTICES OF MOTIONS
ALTERATION OF THE SENATE CALENDAR FOR THE FOURTH SESSION
Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise to give notice of the following Motion-
THAT, notwithstanding the resolution of the Senate made on 19th February, 2025
, pursuant to Standing Order No.32
(4)
, the Senate resolves to extend the recess so as to resume Regular Sittings for Part V of the Fourth Session on Tuesday, 23rd September, 2025, and that the Senate Calendar
(Regular Sessions)
for the Fourth Session, 2025, be altered accordingly.
Can I do the other motion, Speaker? The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) : Yes, proceed to give notice to the other Motion.
ESTABLISHMENT OF A SPECIAL COMMITTEE TO INVESTIGATE THE PROPOSED REMOVAL FROM OFFICE, BY IMPEACHMENT, OF THE GOVERNOR OF KERICHO COUNTY, HON. (DR.) ERIC KIPKOECH MUTAI
Mr. Speaker, Sir, this is notice of the second Motion, which is the establishment of a Special Committee to investigate the proposed removal from office, by impeachment, of Hon. Eric Kipkoech Mutai, the Governor of Kericho County-
THAT, WHEREAS, pursuant to Article 181 of the Constitution and Section 33 of the County Governments Act, on Friday, 15th August, 2025 the County Assembly of Kericho approved a Motion for the removal from office, by impeachment, of Hon. Eric Mutai, Governor of Kericho County;
AND FURTHER, WHEREAS by letter Ref. KCA/SP/3 Vol.I (39) , dated Friday, 15th August, 2025, received in the Office of the Speaker of the Senate on
AND FURTHER, WHEREAS by letter Ref. KCA/SP/3 Vol.I (39) , dated Friday, 15th August, 2025, received in the Office of the Speaker of the Senate on
Next Order.
Next Order.
ALTERATION OF THE SENATE CALENDAR FOR THE FOURTH SESSION
Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg to move- THAT, notwithstanding the resolution of the Senate made on 19th February, 2025
, pursuant to Standing Order 32
(4)
the Senate resolves to extend the recess so as to resume Regular Sittings for Part V of the Fourth Session on Tuesday, 23rd September, 2025, and that the Senate Calendar
(Regular Sessions)
for the Fourth Session, 2025, be altered accordingly.
Mr. Speaker, Sir, as you are aware, we are supposed to be on recess until 7th September, but because of the special matter that is before us, as a House, recess has been interrupted. We are here today and depending on how the House chooses to treat the next Motion, which I shall be moving, we are likely to be seated again next week to consider that particular matter.
Having done that, then it passes by way of common logic that the work which committees intended to carry out in these two weeks will actually be greatly interfered with. Many people interpret that recess is a time to rest only, but recess is a time for work as well. There are committees that have scheduled public participations, Bills that they wanted to consider and people wanted to visit with their constituents.
Therefore, in light of the fact that there has been a two-week interruption, that is this week and next week, because you never know, we have actually provided for the three days in the request that we made to you because it has happened previously where in consideration of impeachment hearings, we have sat up to as late as 3.00 a.m. Therefore, just out of the abundance of caution, we normally request for three days.
That being the case, it means that the whole of next week, again, this House will be sitting. Therefore, we sat at the SBC this morning, deliberated and felt that in the greater interest of the institution and the work that was to be carried out by Members in these two weeks of recess, to further extend our recess by a further two weeks. That is the
basis of this Motion. It is a fairly straightforward request. I want to ask the Senate Minority Leader, Sen. Madzayo, to second and then we can proceed.
Thank you.
The Floor is open for debate. With your concurrence, hon. Senators, I will proceed to put the question.
Next Order. The Senate Majority leader, proceed.
The Floor is open for debate. With your concurrence, hon. Senators, I will proceed to put the question.
Next Order. The Senate Majority leader, proceed.
ESTABLISHMENT OF A SPECIAL COMMITTEE TO INVESTIGATE THE PROPOSED REMOVAL FROM OFFICE, BY IMPEACHMENT, OF THE GOVERNOR OF KERICHO COUNTY, HON. (DR.) ERIC KIPKOECH MUTAI
Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg to move the following Motion-
THAT, WHEREAS, pursuant to Article 181 of the Constitution and Section 33 of the County Governments Act, on Friday, 15th August, 2025, the County Assembly of Kericho approved a Motion for the removal from office, by impeachment, of Hon. Eric Mutai, Governor of Kericho County;
AND FURTHER, WHEREAS by letter Ref. KCA/SP/3 Vol. I (39) , dated Friday, 15th August, 2025, received in the Office of the Speaker of the Senate on Monday, 18th August, 2025, the Speaker of the County Assembly of Kericho informed the Speaker of the Senate of the approval of the Motion by the County Assembly and further forwarded to the Speaker of the Senate documents in evidence of the proceedings of the Assembly;
AND WHEREAS, pursuant to Section 33 (3) (b) of the County Governments Act and Standing Order 80 (1) (b) (i) of the Senate, the Senate by resolution, may appoint a Special Committee comprising eleven of its Members to investigate the matter;
NOW THEREFORE, pursuant to Section 33 (3) (b) of the County Governments Act and Standing Order 80 (1) (b) (i) , the Senate resolves to proceed on this matter by way of establishment of a Special Committee to investigate the proposed removal from office, by impeachment, of Hon. Eric Mutai, Governor of Kericho County.
Mr. Speaker, Sir, this is another procedure that Members are accustomed to. Every time we have an impeachment hearing, the House must make a decision whether to
Declare your interest on this matter!
I can already hear what people are saying as much as I am not supposed to; including my good friend, Sen. Boni Khalwale, who is telling me that in compliance with the Conflict of Interest Bill that is now law, to declare my interest in this matter.
I have no pecuniary interest in this matter other than justice for the people of Kericho, nothing else. That is not a subject of debate at this point and the Majority Whip should know that what we are discussing at this point is whether to investigate this matter by way of committee or by plenary.
Mr. Speaker, Sir, we have pursued both ways in the past, with almost equal results. If I am not wrong and if you look at the statistics, this must be the 17th or 18th impeachment that we are considering. Almost all have been considered in equal numbers; some by way of special committee and nearly an equal number by plenary. Both routes have returned the two possible verdicts; either to confirm the charges or fail to confirm the charges in equal measure as well.
The point is that there is no process or route that is flawed. It is Members to determine which route they want to consider a certain matter. Therefore, reading the mood of the House because I have been in this House long enough and I know when people are listening and when they are not, I beg to move and request the Senate Leader of Minority, Sen. Justice
, Steward Madzayo, to second this Motion.
The Senate Minority Leader (Sen. Madzayo) :
Asante Bw. Spika. Mimi
On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir.
Asante Bw. Spika. Mimi
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for this opportunity. The Leader of the Majority Party has moved the Motion and the Minority Leader has negated or objected to the Motion. In our Standing Orders, can we prove that there is a recourse? Maybe, I am not satisfied with his refusal to second.
I am not talking to the Senators. I am addressing my time to the Speaker, who is the head of this House. If I was to talk to you, it would not be in this forum, I would have talked to you in other kamukunjis.
Order, hon. Senators. Sen. Faki, you can only raise a point of order when a colleague is on their feet.
What is your clarification, Deputy Speaker?
Mr. Speaker, Sir, is it possible that at some point, we can change our Standing Orders in a way that if a seconder is not ready to second a Motion, should that Motion die there or should we initiate another motion on another day, so that those who are ready to support do it? It has happened several times.
Is it possible to have another option to look at this Motion in a different way?
Hon. Senators, I have a further Communication to make. I would like to acknowledge the presence, in the Speaker’s Gallery this afternoon, of Ms. Carol-Ann Nicolene Esterhuizen, a Director of Legal Services from the National Assembly of Namibia and Andrew Kiprop Kalugul, a student from Moi High School, Kabarak. They are in the Senate for a benchmarking and study visit respectively.
Hon. Senators, in our usual tradition of receiving and welcoming visitors to Parliament, I extend a warm welcome to them and on behalf of the Senate and on my own behalf, wish them a fruitful visit.
I will call upon Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale and Sen. Oketch Gicheru to extend a word of welcome.
COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE CHAIR
VISITING OFFICIAL FROM NATIONAL ASSEMBLY OF THE REPUBLIC OF NAMIBIA AND STUDENT FROM MOI HIGH SCHOOL, KABARAK
Mr. Speaker, Sir, I thank you for giving me this opportunity to also welcome the delegate from Namibia. During my high school days at the African Leadership Academy in South Africa, I got the opportunity to visit that country. We welcome her to Kenya and hope that she will learn the best from the ‘upper house’ and our Parliament in general.
I also wish the same to the student from Moi High School, Kabarak. This House deals with issues regarding money and resources that go to our counties and everything that touches on devolution. There is a lot to learn from this House and we welcome him to learn as much as he can from Parliament.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for the opportunity. I hope they will have a good time in the Senate.
Mr. Speaker, Sir, thank you for the honour. We all know the great history of Namibia and the people of Namibia. It is, therefore, my pleasure to welcome the young lady. I hope that she will meet her expectations here in Kenya.
Welcome and thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir.
Mr. Speaker, Sir, I thank you for giving me this opportunity to also welcome the delegate from Namibia. During my high school days at the African Leadership Academy in South Africa, I got the opportunity to visit that country. We welcome her to Kenya and hope that she will learn the best from the ‘upper house’ and our Parliament in general.
I also wish the same to the student from Moi High School, Kabarak. This House deals with issues regarding money and resources that go to our counties and everything that touches on devolution. There is a lot to learn from this House and we welcome him to learn as much as he can from Parliament.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for the opportunity. I hope they will have a good time in the Senate.
ALLEGATIONS MADE AGAINST THE SENATE
Senate or county assemblies begin to develop “centres of oversight/influence”. In this regard, the county assemblies provide the first tier of oversight, while the Senate provides the second and final tier of oversight.”
This was a pronouncement by the court. In the end, the Supreme Court held that in the performance of its oversight role over county revenue, the Senate has powers to summon county governors to answer any questions or provide any requisite information.
On this matter of the oversight jurisdiction of the Senate, therefore, the Senate cannot yield or concede. Unless the Constitution is amended, the constitutional mandate of the Senate is not negotiable or discretionary.
Senate or county assemblies begin to develop “centres of oversight/influence”. In this regard, the county assemblies provide the first tier of oversight, while the Senate provides the second and final tier of oversight.”
This was a pronouncement by the court. In the end, the Supreme Court held that in the performance of its oversight role over county revenue, the Senate has powers to summon county governors to answer any questions or provide any requisite information.
On this matter of the oversight jurisdiction of the Senate, therefore, the Senate cannot yield or concede. Unless the Constitution is amended, the constitutional mandate of the Senate is not negotiable or discretionary.
ADJOURNMENT
Hon. Senators, there being no other business in the Order Paper, the Senate stands adjourned until Wednesday, 27th August, 2025 at 9.30