Tuesday, 22nd November, 2022

Serjeant-at-arms, kindly, ring the bell. We seem not to have quorum.

The quorum has been established. Please, let us have the first Order.

Sen. Joe Nyutu, kindly acquaint yourself with the Standing Orders. When the Chair is upstanding, you are supposed to be seated.

Hon. Senators, I would like to acknowledge the presence in the Speaker’s gallery this afternoon, Members of the Committee on Public Accounts and Investments from Nyamira County Assembly. The delegation is at the Senate for a five days’ benchmarking visit with its counterpart Committee at the Senate; the County Public Accounts Committee (CPAC) and the County Public Investment and Special Funds Committee (CPISFC) .

I request each member of the Delegation to stand when called out so that they maybe acknowledged in the Senate tradition.

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Hon. Thaddeus Nyabaro - Deputy Speaker Hon. Duke Oyagi - Deputy Majority Leader Hon. Kenneth Nyameino - Chairperson Hon. Dickson Machungo - Vice-Chairperson Hon. Charles Keganda - Member Hon. Priscilla Nyatichi - Member They are accompanied by the following officers: Ms. Gladys Sorobi - Committee Clerk Ms. Peninah Kerama - Committee Clerk Mr. Kevin Riro - Committee Clerk CPA, Joash Mwamba - Auditor CPA, Erick Koroba - Auditor Hon. Senators, in our usual tradition of receiving and welcoming visitors to Parliament I extend warm welcome to them. On behalf of the Senate and on my own behalf, wish them a fruitful visit.

Thank you. If we have the Senator for Nyamira County present, maybe you will have a word of welcoming them. In the absence, Sen. Okenyuri, proceed.

Sen. Okenyuri: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. On behalf of the Nyamira Senator, Sen. Omogeni who is not here, I would love to welcome the Nyamira County Assembly Members to this House. I am from Kisii, so as our neighbours, we are grateful to host you here.

We look forward to having more engagements as we push for legislation that is favoring our County and as we work towards giving service to Kenya at large.

Next Order.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. On behalf of the Nyamira Senator, Sen. Omogeni who is not here, I would love to welcome the Nyamira County Assembly Members to this House. I am from Kisii, so as our neighbours, we are grateful to host you here.We look forward to having more engagements as we push for legislation that is favoring our County and as we work towards giving service to Kenya at large.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table – The Report on the Standing Committee of Finance and Budget which is on County Additional Allocation Bill No.2 Senate Bill No.4 of 2022.

I beg to lay.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table – The Report on the Standing Committee of Finance and Budget which is on County Additional Allocation Bill No.2 Senate Bill No.4 of 2022.

I beg to lay.

Next Order.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg to give notice of the following Motion - THAT, AWARE THAT Turkana County continues to experience extremely dry weather conditions with the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) reporting that the aggregate rainfall for the six-month period ending September 2022 represented only 21 per cent of the normal rainfall; FURTHER AWARE THAT the prevailing weather conditions have resulted in the drying up of wells, boreholes, loss of pasture, and crops, therefore rendering any form of farming impracticable; ACKNOWLEDGING THAT the residents of the County are predominantly pastoralists who keep cattle, donkeys, camels, and goats for food and income, and that the loss of these livestock is a loss of livelihood for them; NOTING THAT the prevailing drought has resulted in the death of more than half of the livestock in the County thereby pushing eight hundred thousand---

Hon. Senator, kindly approach the microphone so that we can hear your voice.

FURTHER COGNIZANT THAT Article 11 of the United Nation’s International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights (ICESCR) places further emphasis on the fundamental right to food and obliges the State to take progressive steps towards achieving full realization of the right to adequate food; NOW THEREFORE the Senate urges the Ministries of Agriculture and Livestock Development; Water, Sanitation, and Irrigation; Education, and the Ministry of East African Community (EAC), the ASALs and Regional Development through the National Drought Management Authority, to come up with a policy framework to address the perennial drought in the County and to come up with policy programs addressing the current needs of the County to include: -

FURTHER COGNIZANT THAT Article 11 of the United Nation’s International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights (ICESCR) places further emphasis on the fundamental right to food and obliges the State to take progressive steps towards achieving full realization of the right to adequate food; NOW THEREFORE the Senate urges the Ministries of Agriculture and Livestock Development; Water, Sanitation, and Irrigation; Education, and the Ministry of East African Community (EAC), the ASALs and Regional Development through the National Drought Management Authority, to come up with a policy framework to address the perennial drought in the County and to come up with policy programs addressing the current needs of the County to include: -

Proceed, Sen. Tabitha Mutinda.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I rise, pursuant to Standing Order No. 53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on Trade, Industrialization and Tourism on the rise in the number of road-side hardware supplies in the residential areas in Nairobi City County particularly in South B and South C estates.

In the Statement, the Committee should –

Proceed, Sen. Cherarkey.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. This is a Senate request for Statement on rehabilitation and upgrading of Mombasa Road sections left in a state of disrepair following the construction of the Nairobi Express Way.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise, pursuant to Standing Order No. 53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on Roads Transportation and Housing on the Kshs9 billion set aside for rehabilitation of sections of Mombasa Road left in a state disrepair following the construction of the Nairobi Express Way.

In the Statement the Committee should -

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. This is a Senate request for Statement on rehabilitation and upgrading of Mombasa Road sections left in a state of disrepair following the construction of the Nairobi Express Way.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise, pursuant to Standing Order No. 53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on Roads Transportation and Housing on the Kshs9 billion set aside for rehabilitation of sections of Mombasa Road left in a state disrepair following the construction of the Nairobi Express Way.

In the Statement the Committee should -

Proceed, Sen. Sifuna.

We would want the contractor to be brought before our Committee on Roads Transportation and Housing. KeNHA should also answer the questions that have been very well put by Sen. Cherarkey.

We need to know the plan of restoration of Mombasa Road, how long it is going to take, how the resources that were allocated prior to this matter coming to us have been utilized so far and when can Nairobians and Kenyans in general expect have the old Mombasa Road back. This extends all the way to Waiyaki Way.

I thank you.

We would want the contractor to be brought before our Committee on Roads Transportation and Housing. KeNHA should also answer the questions that have been very well put by Sen. Cherarkey.

We need to know the plan of restoration of Mombasa Road, how long it is going to take, how the resources that were allocated prior to this matter coming to us have been utilized so far and when can Nairobians and Kenyans in general expect have the old Mombasa Road back. This extends all the way to Waiyaki Way.

I thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I would like to compliment Sen. Cherarkey. This is a pertinent issue. In fact, it is a matter of great national importance given that Nairobi accounts for over 57 per cent of the Gross Domestic Product (GDP) of this country.

The contractor should actually not appear before the Committee. He should appear before the Committee of the Whole because all the Senators have pertinent issues that they would like to raise.

I would want the contractor to explain how they developed such an expensive project without giving motorists, who are paying an extra fee to use it from Mlolongo, an exit to enter the Upper Hill Business District and the Central Business District (CBD) .

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I know you have used it. If you intend to do any business in Upper Hill and you are on the Express Way, you have to go to Museum Hill and you will do the same if you want to come into the CBD.

He should tell us if there is a scientific reason otherwise our expectation is that he should create an entry into the Central Business District and an entry into the Upper Hill District.

I thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I rise to make a Statement under Standing Order 52 (1) , regarding road safety during the festive season.

With several fatalities during the Christmas break as people travel to be with their loved ones, road safety across the country should be a key priority for our Government. The death toll in Kenya due to motor vehicle crashes up to 26th September, 2022 was 3,540 - an increase of about 250 crashes from a similar period in last year.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, you will hear me intentionally refer to these as “road crashes” and not accidents because language is very important. We call it an “accident” though construction workers are injured in unsafe conditions. We call it an “accident” though drivers crash their cars due to negligent driving and we refer to them as “accidents” even though traffic crashes are fixable problems caused by dangerous streets and unsafe drivers. These are not accidents at all. I use the term “crashes” to emphasize that our fatalities are caused by failures in design, construction and training.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, it is time that we did something to address road crashes and road Safety policies in Kenya shall assist with this. Vulnerable groups, especially persons with disabilities, senior citizens and children, are in dire need of safer roads in Kenya.

Our poorly designed roads, no legal provisions for universal design, lack of proper training and education on road safety, poor regulation and enforcement and the poor public transport systems only exacerbate the situation.

The World Health Rankings put Kenya at 48 deaths out of every 100,000 people on the roads. Western countries report death rates much lower than Kenya due to their road safety policies, safe street designs and safe road awareness in place.

Kenya’s policies on road design and safety must be completely overhauled in order to protect vulnerable road users. Kenyan road designs need to start following a safe systems approach, which puts the greatest responsibility on the road users who can do the greatest harm as they have the highest responsibility to reduce road crashes.

We need to make streets safe by design, with traffic-calmed pedestrian crossings and compact intersections. This will minimize dangers for pedestrians and cyclists. Such policies anchored in legislation would lead to safer roads, as majority of us walk and use public transport daily in all our counties.

As we approach the festive season, I would like to bring attention to all Kenyans to road safety and remind us about how devastating road deaths and injuries that lead to disability can be.

Mr. Speaker, as I conclude, I wish to reiterate and call on us al to become deliberate champions of universal design and road safety in Kenya. This may be done by a few ideas -

1) Enacting legislation that ensures new roads incorporate walkways, crossings, cycle tracks, functioning street lights, bus shelters, trees, greenery and street furniture, with all of these elements built following universal design standards; 2) Introduction of mandatory units in accessibility and universal design across all professional educational curricular relevant to infrastructural design, development and delivery; 3) Introduction of a curriculum on road safety courses to be taught in all schools from a young age. Early education and training on road safety will lead to these eager young minds becoming better road users and motor vehicle drivers in future; 4) A complete overhaul of courses in our driving schools; 5) Introducing legislation that mandates all motor vehicles to have regular evaluation to guarantee their roadworthiness and regular refresher courses for these drivers; 6) At a personal level, ensuring that Kenyans pay attention to, and follow all traffic rules while driving; and 7) Encouraging all Kenyans to not call traffic crashes “accidents” and, instead, educate society about why “road crashes” is often the more accurate term.

I thank you. Mr. Speaker, Sir, do I go to my next Statement?

I thank you. Mr. Speaker, Sir, do I go to my next Statement?

Mr. Speaker, Sir, my next Statement is pursuant to Standing Order 53 (1) , to seek a statement from the Standing Committee on Roads, Transportation and Housing regarding road safety and universal design.

In the Statement, the Committee should -

Mr. Speaker, Sir, my next Statement is pursuant to Standing Order 53 (1) , to seek a statement from the Standing Committee on Roads, Transportation and Housing regarding road safety and universal design.

In the Statement, the Committee should -

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I rise pursuant to Standing Order 56 (1) (a) to make a Statement on the activities of the County Public Investment and Special Funds Committee (CPISFC) for the period commencing 4th October, 2022 to date.

The CPISFC is established under Standing Order 194 of the Senate Standing Order and it is mandated to -

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I rise pursuant to Standing Order 56 (1) (a) to make a Statement on the activities of the County Public Investment and Special Funds Committee (CPISFC) for the period commencing 4th October, 2022 to date.

The CPISFC is established under Standing Order 194 of the Senate Standing Order and it is mandated to -

Yes, Senate Majority Leader.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, that is a good report that has been presented by the Chair. I appreciate the work his Committee has done. However, I have one comment.

At the beginning of a term of Parliament when we are doing such reports, I encourage Committee Chairpersons to not only lay the problem statements but also, go further and propose legislative solutions to the problems they have raised.

This is a legislative body. There is no other institution that we are looking up to, to solve many of the challenges, such as enacting the Council of Governors (CoG) , County Assemblies Forum (CAF) and other various regional bodies, into Acts of Parliament.

As part of your report, and this goes out to the other Chairpersons as well; let us begin the process of having it as a legislative proposal. It can then go through the bureaucracy of Parliament and have it tabled here to conclude on this process.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, it is otherwise a very good report. Thank you.

Proceed, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale.

line, do governors get money to invest in offices in Nairobi? They create jobs for their friends and relatives, with no clear way of accountability.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I do not have in mind any governor sitting in office today. However, some governors will not stop at anything, to create an opportunity, to improve the welfare around themselves. You may have heard governors talking about some funny caucus unknown to us, called the governors’ first lady “something”. They have been calling for funds, to help them preside over projects and programmes.

This Senate should be strong and loud. It should tell governors that the issue of first ladies caucus is unknown to the Constitution of Kenya and its statutes. If we do not stop them, next time, we will hear a caucus of governors’ favourite son or daughters and so on.

My last comment on this very important issue, is that the Committee should not wait for the reports from the Auditor-General. We have obvious things that take place, for example, investments that are done outside the required legal framework. For instance, I am looking forward to this Committee pursuing the County Government of Kakamega, in the Kshs200 million, that the former governor invested in Mumias Sugar Company, by way of payment to farmers. No single farmer was paid. The Kshs200 million vanished in thin air. These are things that we want you to look into, so that governors can have the fear of the Lord in their hearts and minds to respect public funds.

I thank you.

line, do governors get money to invest in offices in Nairobi? They create jobs for their friends and relatives, with no clear way of accountability.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I do not have in mind any governor sitting in office today. However, some governors will not stop at anything, to create an opportunity, to improve the welfare around themselves. You may have heard governors talking about some funny caucus unknown to us, called the governors’ first lady “something”. They have been calling for funds, to help them preside over projects and programmes.

This Senate should be strong and loud. It should tell governors that the issue of first ladies caucus is unknown to the Constitution of Kenya and its statutes. If we do not stop them, next time, we will hear a caucus of governors’ favourite son or daughters and so on.

My last comment on this very important issue, is that the Committee should not wait for the reports from the Auditor-General. We have obvious things that take place, for example, investments that are done outside the required legal framework. For instance, I am looking forward to this Committee pursuing the County Government of Kakamega, in the Kshs200 million, that the former governor invested in Mumias Sugar Company, by way of payment to farmers. No single farmer was paid. The Kshs200 million vanished in thin air. These are things that we want you to look into, so that governors can have the fear of the Lord in their hearts and minds to respect public funds.

I thank you.

Next order.

Let us proceed to division.

Sen. Madzayo, what is your point of order?

The Senator is on a point of order. We are dealing with a point of order. Sen. Madzayo, what you have read is different from what you submitted.

The Senate Minority Leader (Sen. Madzayo) : There is some mix up. Please let me correct.

Sen. Olekina, the House is very active. The Senate Minority Leader (Sen. Madzayo) : Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise on a point of order, pursuant to Standing Order No. 37, to seek leave of the House to adjourn to discuss a definite matter of national importance, namely the decision of the Government to authorize the cultivation and importation of banned Genetical Modified Organisms (GMOs) foods, at an appropriate time this afternoon.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

Hon. Senators, pursuant to Standing Order No. 37 (5) , I do confirm that we have met the requisite threshold. I therefore direct that the Senate will stand adjourned at 5.30 p.m. today to discuss the said Motion.

Hon. Senators, we shall now proceed to vote. The Order has already been called out. I direct that the Division Bell be rung for five minutes.

Hon. Senators, I direct that the Division Bell be rung for another five minutes.

There is some mix up. Please let me correct. (Sen. Olekina spoke off-record)

Sen. Olekina, the House is very active. The Senate Minority Leader (

On a point of order.

Hon. Senators, pursuant to Standing Order No. 37 (5) , I do confirm that we have met the requisite threshold. I therefore direct that the Senate will stand adjourned at 5.30 p.m. today to discuss the said Motion.

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, you ought to know better. Clerk, kindly, proceed.

Hon. Senators, I direct that the Division Bell be rung for another five minutes.

Kajiado County; Sen. Sifuna, Nairobi City County; Sen. Tabitha Keroche, Nakuru County; Sen. Thangw’a, Kiambu County; Sen. Wakili Sigei, Bomet County.

Teller of the Ayes: Sen. Chimera.

Hon. Senators, the results of the Division are as follows;

Hon. Senators, I now direct that the doors be unlocked and the bars undrawn.

Next Order.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, the delegation of Nyamira County is represented. Sen. Okenyuri is here.

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, you ought to know better. Clerk, kindly, proceed.

Kajiado County; Sen. Sifuna, Nairobi City County; Sen. Tabitha Keroche, Nakuru County; Sen. Thangw’a, Kiambu County; Sen. Wakili Sigei, Bomet County.

Teller of the Ayes: Sen. Chimera.

Hon. Senators, the results of the Division are as follows;

Madam Temporary Chairperson, I second.

The Temporary Chairperson

: Division will be at the end. Clauses 7-9

The Temporary Chairperson

: Division will be at the end First Schedule

The Temporary Chairperson

: I request the Chairperson of the Standing Committee on Finance and Budget to move to the dispatch box.

Division will be at the end. Senators, we request that you access the Bill from your iPads. An

It is not opening. The Temporary Chairperson (

S/NO. County FY 2021/22 FY 2022/23 Total Conditional Grants from the National Government Revenue Supplement for Construction of County Headquarters Conditional Grant-Leasing of Medical Equipment Total Conditional Grants from the National Government Revenue Column A Column B Column C Column D

Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move: THAT, clause 5 of the Bill be amended in subsection (2) by-

Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT that the Bill be amended by deleting Clause 6. This is after consultations with stakeholders. As a Committee, it was unanimous that the allocation from the Equalization Fund requires to be actualized through the Equalization Fund Appropriation Act. Thus, the provision should be deleted.

On a point of order. The Temporary Chairperson

: What is your Point of Order, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale?

Madam Temporary Chairperson, I second. (Question of the amendment proposed) The Temporary Chairperson (

Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT the Bill be amended by deleting the Second Schedule and substituting therefor the following new Schedule-

Division will be at the end First Schedule The Temporary Chairperson (

I request the Chairperson of the Standing Committee on Finance and Budget to move to the dispatch box.

Care in Devolved Context (Financing Locally- Led Climate Action (FLLoCA) Program, C t Cli t I tit ti l Sweden- Agricultural Sector Development Support Programme (ASDSP) II German Development Bank (KfW)- Drought Resilience Programme in N h K

S/NO. County FY 2021/22 FY 2022/23 Total Conditional Grants from the National Government Revenue Supplement for Construction of County Headquarters Conditional Grant-Leasing of Medical Equipment Total Conditional Grants from the National Government Revenue Column A Column B Column C Column D

S/NO. County FY 2021/22 FY 2022/23 Total Conditional Grants from the National Government Revenue Supplement for Construction of County Headquarters Conditional Grant-Leasing of Medical Equipment Total Conditional Grants from the National Government Revenue Column A Column B Column C Column D

S/NO. County FY 2021/22 FY 2022/23 Total Conditional Grants from the National Government Revenue Supplement for Construction of County Headquarters Conditional Grant-Leasing of Medical Equipment Total Conditional Grants from the National Government Revenue Column A Column B Column C Column D

Grand Total 7,536,999,984 163,000,000 5,200,000,006 5,363,000,006

Madam Temporary Chairperson, I second. (Question of the amended proposed) The Temporary Chairperson (

S/N O CO UN TY and Gra t tura l d l Valat e Sm San itati y Hea lth on (FL L elop men t Resi licy Loc ust Sett lem t Urb an SLoa ns and 0 obi City ,79 1,3 ,68 ,00 9,9 ,00 0,0 204, 781, 1 Nak uru ,28 5,2 ,91 1,1 70, ,00 - 33, ,93 22, ,00 5,2 52, - ,00 0,0 3,5 34, .20 522, 398, 2 Nan di ,79 8,2 ,24 7,7 70, ,00 - 17, ,31 22, ,00 4,6 52, - 16, ,08 2,3 39, .88 380, 965, 3 Nar ok ,96 5,9 ,10 7,5 70, ,00 - 25, ,37 22, ,00 10, 6,7 - 2,3 39, .88 373, 384, 4 Nya mir a ,36 7,5 ,16 1,4 - 15, ,50 22, ,00 4,7 81, - 2,3 39, .88 225, 758, 5 Nya nda rua ,88 9,6 - 70, ,00 75, ,65 - 15, ,12 22, ,00 4,4 96, - 25, ,00 2,3 39, .88 215, 234, 6 Nye ri ,26 5,6 - 70, ,00 ,71 3,2 - 17, ,93 22, ,00 15, 4,7 - 30, ,00 2,3 39, .88 282, 137, 7 Sam bur u ,93 9,3 ,10 3,4 - 14, ,62 22, ,00 25, 1,7 - 91, ,75 - 2,3 39, .88 330, 038, 8 Siay a ,15 2,6 - 75, ,05 - 18, ,68 22, ,00 9,3 37, - 2,3 39, .88 127, 677, Tait a Tav 1,3 79, - 70, ,00 ,52 2,0 ,00 0,0 13, ,87 22, ,00 17, 1,7 - 30, ,00 2,3 39, 855, 426,

Division will be at the end.

S/N O CO UN TY and Gra t tura l d l Valat e Sm San itati y Hea lth on (FL L elop men t Resi licy Loc ust Sett lem t Urb an SLoa ns and eta ,31 .88 510 Tan a Rive r ,56 3,5 - 70, ,00 82, ,19 - 18, ,31 22, ,00 11, 8,8 - 2,3 39, .88 207, 230, Tha raka Nith

,28 8,7 - ,24 0,6 - 12, ,75 22, ,00 16, 1,0 - 68, ,50 20, ,00 2,3 39, .88 264, 103, Tra ns Nzoi a ,68 6,4 ,66 6,0 70, ,00 - 18, ,87 22, ,00 9,4 62, - 50, ,00 2,3 39, .88 364, 997, 3 Tur kan a ,24 7,6 ,48 0,1 - 33, ,56 22, ,00 34, 6,0 0,0 00, ,10 8,5 - 2,3 39, .88 570, 438, Uasi n Gish u ,85 3,9 - 70, ,00 84, ,28 - 20, ,50 22, ,00 9,1 99, - 50, ,00 2,3 39, .88 258, 281, 5 Vihi ga ,31 4,9 ,40 2,3 - 14, ,43 22, ,00 4,4 17, - 2,3 39, .88 199, 126, 6 Waj ir 1,1 60, ,18 - 78, ,12 ,00 0,0 27, ,37 22, ,00 35, 0,3 - 89, ,25 50, ,00 2,3 39, .88 804, 570, Wes t Pok ot ,95 3,1 - ,90 9,6 - 16, ,37 22, ,00 24, 8,6 - 70, ,70 - 2,3 39, .88 250, 674, Tota l 32, 3,9 00, 1,8 20, 2,2 00, 3,5 00, 1,0 18, 1,0 34, 5,1 0,0 1,2 00, 1,3 00, ,02 17,1 59,3

What is your Point of Order, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale?

Madam Temporary Chairperson, I second.

The Temporary Chairperson

: Division will be at the end. Third Schedule

The Temporary Chairperson

: I invite the Chairperson to the Standing Committee on Finance and Budget to take the dispatch box.

Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT the Bill be amended by deleting the Third Schedule. Having deleted Clause 6 which provided for allocation from the Equalization Fund. It, therefore, follows that the Third Schedule must be deleted to reflect the change.

I request Sen. Faki to second.

Clerk-at-the-Table, give Members hard copies of this Bill. If we have a few copies, give one to Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale. Second Schedule

Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT the Bill be amended by deleting the Second Schedule and substituting therefor the following new Schedule-

Care in Devolved Context (Financing Locally- Led Climate Action (FLLoCA) Program, C t Cli t I tit ti l Sweden- Agricultural Sector Development Support Programme (ASDSP) II German Development Bank (KfW)- Drought Resilience Programme in N h K

Support Programme (KUSP) Total Loans and Grants Col um n A Col um n B Col um n C Col um n D Col um n E Col um n F Col um n G Co lu m n H Co lu m n I Col um n J Col um n K Col um n L Col umn M Bari ngo ,31 7,1 - 95, ,11 - 16, ,81 22, ,00 15, 2,8 - 69, ,70 - 2,3 39, .88 220, 999, Bom et ,18 1,6 - 70, ,00 83, ,43 - 17, ,37 22, ,00 15, 9,8 - 2,3 39, .88 210, 828, 3 Bun - 28, 22, 5,3 - 30, 3,5

S/N O CO UN TY and Gra t tura l d l Valat e Sm San itati y Hea lth on (FL L elop men t Resi licy Loc ust Sett lem t Urb an SLoa ns and gom a ,77 2,1 ,27 3,8 ,31 ,00 44, ,00 34, .20 256, 762, Busi a ,13 3,1 - 70, ,00 ,32 8,1 - 19, ,37 22, ,00 22, 8,1 - 2,3 39, .88 261, 070, 5 Elge yo Mar akw et ,05 4,3 - 85, ,75 - 12, ,12 22, ,00 9,3 80, - 75, ,00 8,0 24, 2,3 39, .88 215, 638, Em bu ,82 1,5 ,40 6,6 70, ,00 - 13, ,50 22, ,00 8,6 51, - 67, ,70 - 2,3 39, .88 360, 933, Gari ssa 1,0 87, ,78 - 75, ,05 ,00 0,0 22, ,37 22, ,00 27, 6,0 - 80, ,85 - 2,3 39, .88 630, 550, 8 Ho ma Bay ,46 3,4 ,59 0,3 70, ,00 - 21, ,06 22, ,00 23, 6,2 - 30, ,00 2,3 39, .88 331, 552, Isiol o ,19 6,5 - ,80 5,0 - 13, ,87 22, ,00 19, 7,7 - 84, ,55 - 2,3 39, .88 401, 955, 0 Kaji ado ,20 4,5 - 75, ,22 - 20, ,93 22, ,00 9,7 72, - 3,5 34, .20 131, 205, 1 Kak ame ga ,09 0,9 - 70, ,00 99, ,43 - 33, ,31 22, ,00 11, 7,9 - 50, ,00 3,5 34, .20 289, 429, 1 Keri - 70, 72, - 17, 22, 9,2 - 2,3

S/N O CO UN TY and Gra t tura l d l Valat e Sm San itati y Hea lth on (FL L elop men t Resi licy Loc ust Sett lem t Urb an SLoa ns and 2 cho ,05 4,3 ,00 ,57 ,12 ,00 50, 39, .88 193, 578, 3 Kia mbu ,23 9,2 ,77 5,9 70, ,00 - 30, ,12 22, ,00 23, 5,5 - 40, ,90 8,3 12, .48 417, 141, 4 Kilif

2,1 54, ,61 ,53 9,1 70, ,00 - ,00 0,0 33, ,12 22, ,00 11, 5,0 - ,00 0,0 3,5 34, .20 1,43 2,90 6,84 5 Kiri nya ga ,63 8,6 ,74 4,3 70, ,00 - 13, ,87 22, ,00 8,1 08, - 2,3 39, .88 294, 835, 6 Kisii ,64 3,5 ,89 0,0 70, ,00 - 25, ,87 22, ,00 10, 7,4 - 2,3 39, .88 301, 793, 7 Kisu mu ,63 2,7 - 70, ,43 - 21, ,50 22, ,00 4,8 30, - ,00 0,0 2,3 39, .88 321, 169, 8 Kitu

,22 5,1 ,47 5,2 70, ,00 - 28, ,68 22, ,00 11, 6,6 - 70, ,00 - 2,3 39, .88 374, 080, 9 Kwa le 1,0 84, ,42 ,30 5,6 70, ,00 - ,00 0,0 25, ,87 22, ,00 5,5 05, - 2,3 39, .88 826, 196, 0 Laik ipia ,80 8,5 - 66, ,25 - 13, ,25 22, ,00 17, 9,5 - 2,3 39, .88 121, 371, 2 Lam - 5,2 - 8,3 22, 14, - 50, 2,3

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Hon. Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move that the Committee do report to the Senate its consideration of the County Governments Additional Allocations (No. 2) Bill (Senate Bills No. 4 of 2022) , and its approval thereof, with amendments.

I request Sen. Faki to second.

Madam Temporary Chairperson, I second.

Division will be at the end. Third Schedule The Temporary Chairperson (

Hon. Senators, I now call the Chairperson to report to the House.

I invite the Chairperson to the Standing Committee on Finance and Budget to take the dispatch box.

Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT the Bill be amended by deleting the Third Schedule. Having deleted Clause 6 which provided for allocation from the Equalization Fund. It, therefore, follows that the Third Schedule must be deleted to reflect the change.

I request Sen. Faki to second.

Madam Temporary Chairperson, I second. (Question of the amendment proposed) The Temporary Chairperson (

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I second.

On a point of order. The Temporary Chairperson (

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I beg to move that the County Governments Additional Allocations (No. 2) Bill (Senate Bills No. 4 of 2022) be now read a Third Time.

I request Sen. Faki to second.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I second.

The Temporary Chairperson (

County; Sen. Chesang, Trans Nzoia County; Sen. Chute, Marsabit County; Sen. Dullo, Isiolo County; Sen. Faki, Mombasa County; Sen. Gataya Mo Fire, Tharaka Nithi County; Sen. Githuku, Lamu County; Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, Kakamega County; Sen. (Dr.) Lelegwe Ltumbesi, Samburu County; Sen. Lomenen, Turkana County; Sen. M. Kajwang’, Homa Bay County; Sen. Madzayo, Kilifi County; Sen. Mandago, Uasin Gishu County; Sen. Methu, Nyandarua County; Sen. Murgor, West Pokot County; Sen. Oketch Gicheru, Migori County; Sen. Olekina, Narok County; Sen. Osotsi, Vihiga County; Sen. Seki, Kajiado County; Sen. Sifuna, Nairobi County; Sen. Tabitha Keroche, Nakuru County; Sen. Thang’wa, Kiambu County and, Sen. Wamatinga, Nyeri County.

The documents I have are completely different from the ones he is reading. The Temporary Chairperson (

Kindly, approach the Clerk-at-the-Table?

Yes, please. (

Sen. Chute, do you have the correct one? (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted the Temporary Chairperson) Hon. Senators, the amendments are in the Supplementary Order Paper. Do not look for them in the Bill. Get a copy of the Supplementary Order Paper. (Several Senators spoke off record) I believe Sen. Chute is now comfortable. We can proceed. Clause 2 and the Title (Question, that Clause Two and the Title be part of the Bill, proposed) The Temporary Chairperson (

Division will be at the end. Clause 1

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, for the humble considerations. It has been a very long day with a number of committee meetings. I am glad we achieved passing of the Bill on County Governments Additional Allocation Bill.

I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on National Security, Defence and Foreign Relations on the State of insecurity and wanton killings in Migori County particularly in Awendo Constituency and Migori Town.

In the Statement, the Committee should -

Madam Temporary Chairperson, I second. (Question of the amendment proposed) The Temporary Chairperson (

We are now proceeding to Divisions. Ring the Division bell for two minutes. (The Division bell was rung)

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Okay. We are doing one division for the three questions. I believe you heard the questions.

You can proceed to vote. You can see the countdown.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I second the Motion.

Hon. Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move that the Committee do report to the Senate its consideration of the County Governments Additional Allocations (No. 2) Bill (Senate Bills No. 4 of 2022) , and its approval thereof, with amendments.

I request Sen. Faki to second.

I support.

Hon. Senators, I now call the Chairperson to report to the House.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I beg to report that the Committee of the Whole has considered the County Governments Additional Allocations (No. 2) Bill (Senate Bills No. 4 of 2022) , and its approval thereof with amendments.

have been put in place to ensure we do not lose a lot after the harvest. If we do that, we will not only start agro processing but we will also ensure that Kenyans do not go hungry.

On the issue of modifying the seeds that are put on the ground, it is in the public domain that the climate has changed a lot. Therefore, we also need to adopt technologies that go with the changing times. The introduction of those seeds will lead to better performance in our climatic conditions and that is what other people are technically calling Genetically Modified Organisms (GMOs). We must not beat around the bush. That is where the country is going. It is all about moving with technology. We have no option but to move along.

Those seeds will withstand the climatic conditions we have around this country. We will, therefore, become not only self-reliant in the production of food but we will also get a way of feeding raw materials into our agro processing industries that has been a commitment of this Government.

I support.

Sen. Olekina, please proceed.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I rise to support this Motion by the distinguished Sen. Gataya Mo Fire. Food security is very important. My hope was that all the 47 delegations would be here to discuss this Motion in a sober and progressive way.

We know the problem and we know the solutions. However, we do not give a hoot because we are greedy and do not care to think about future generations. It is about time that we start looking at the resolutions which are being sought when a Motion like this comes before this House. When we talk about food security, every county in this country must understand its weather patterns.

Yesterday, I was talking to some of my workers and I suggested to them that we start planting maize. Most of them refused and said that we do not know about the sun when it comes to January. My question is; why is it that these so-called experts do not understand the weather patterns yet my workers, most of whom do not have the education that people in the policy department have can understand the weather patterns?

As a country, we have to think of food security unless we are prepared to starve to death. I wonder at times why we do not care about people in Turkana County and the millions of people in this country who are currently starving. Is it because we can afford to dress nicely, wear expensive suits and drive fancy cars?

What do you think about the future of this country when you read from a Motion like this that over 950,000 pregnant mothers are now facing malnutrition? As a country, it is time for us to start asking questions. Moving forward, we should see solutions and follow the progress of those solutions.

Right now, every county government should be thinking about water reserves. I recently did something that other people would consider crazy. There is a path that goes through the side of the road where I live. I told myself that the rains are coming and my dams are empty. I brought a lot of stones, barricaded the place and when it rained and I diverted the water into three of my dams.

When the rains do not come in January, I will use that water to irrigate my corn. We need to be innovative. I do not subscribe to the school of thought that says we must genetically modify the food for us to survive in this country. My views on GMO are advised by the research which is out there. I believe we will be adjourning the House in the next three minutes to discuss that issue.

I do not want future kids to be born with six fingers. Kenya is the largest economy in Eastern and Central Africa with a Gross domestic product (GDP) of 110 USD Billion but most of us who live in the rural areas still survive with 1 USD a day. That makes us a developing nation. If a normal citizen does not work in a day, they starve.

With the Motion that has been moved by Sen. Gataya Mo Fire, the Committee on Agriculture, Livestock and Fisheries should follow up and ensure that very little money is left in Nairobi, the capital. That is because agriculture is a devolved function. I am not talking about Nairobi City County. I need to clarify that because I do not want to get in trouble with my brother, the Senator for Nairobi City County. I am referring to the national Government.

We should also look at individual counties. In counties such as Kajiado, Narok, Samburu and those in the northern part of Kenya, we need to think about a government off-take program that guarantees that farmers can sell their cow at a minimum of Kshs50,000. Technology is there. I know I have 30 seconds.

My brother, the Senator for Nyeri County can sit down with me we discuss about the use of technology to preserve meat because he is already slaughtering the cow. However, he cannot come to discuss with me a technology where we are going to alter the genetics of human beings because to a greater extent, modifying the genetics of food also modifies the genetics of human beings.

In most cases - and I want to qualify my statement here - a lot of people suffer from secondary smoking. If you sit in a place where people are smoking every day or sleep in a room where everybody is smoking every day - you will experience secondary smoking. You are not the one primarily smoking but if you sleep in a room in which someone smokes on a daily basis, you will end up suffering.

I know that time is up and it is time for us to adjourn but since this is a matter which is continuing, the remaining minutes I can have them later.

That is noted Sen. Olekina. I am also equally aware that there are a good number of Senators in the queue; Sen Okenyuri, Sen. Okiya Omtatah, Sen. Nyamu, and Sen. Tobiko are on the queue. We will resume this Motion tomorrow and you will be given priority so that you contribute to it.

Sen. Olekina, I am informed that you will have 14 minutes tomorrow to debate on this particular Motion.

Hon. Members, as you are aware, it is now 5.30 p.m. which is the appointed time by the hon. Speaker to discuss the Motion that had been sought by Sen. Madzayo.

Sen. Madzayo, please proceed and move the Motion

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I second.

What is your point of order, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale?

County; Sen. Chesang, Trans Nzoia County; Sen. Chute, Marsabit County; Sen. Dullo, Isiolo County; Sen. Faki, Mombasa County; Sen. Gataya Mo Fire, Tharaka Nithi County; Sen. Githuku, Lamu County; Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, Kakamega County; Sen. (Dr.) Lelegwe Ltumbesi, Samburu County; Sen. Lomenen, Turkana County; Sen. M. Kajwang’, Homa Bay County; Sen. Madzayo, Kilifi County; Sen. Mandago, Uasin Gishu County; Sen. Methu, Nyandarua County; Sen. Murgor, West Pokot County; Sen. Oketch Gicheru, Migori County; Sen. Olekina, Narok County; Sen. Osotsi, Vihiga County; Sen. Seki, Kajiado County; Sen. Sifuna, Nairobi County; Sen. Tabitha Keroche, Nakuru County; Sen. Thang’wa, Kiambu County and, Sen. Wamatinga, Nyeri County.

Hon. Members, the results of the votes are as follows:

Sen. Olekina you have five minutes to second and discuss this Motion.

FURTHER NOTING THAT climate change education explores mitigation and adaptation at both local and global level, critical and creative thinking and capacity building that will enable youth to engage with the information, inquire, understand, ask critical questions and take what they determine are appropriate actions to respond to climate change; ACKNOWLEDGING THAT the Climate Change Act 2016 addresses the integration of climate change into various disciplines and subjects of the national education curriculum at all levels, as well as requiring that the National Climate Council advises public agencies responsible for regulating universities and tertiary institutions curricula on integration of climate change into their curricula; NOW THEREFORE the Senate calls upon the Ministry of Education in liaison with the Kenya Institute for Curriculum Development (KICD) to:

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, for the humble considerations. It has been a very long day with a number of committee meetings. I am glad we achieved passing of the Bill on County Governments Additional Allocation Bill.

I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on National Security, Defence and Foreign Relations on the State of insecurity and wanton killings in Migori County particularly in Awendo Constituency and Migori Town.

In the Statement, the Committee should -

Mr. Temporary Speaker, the point is already made. I am speaking to Kenyans out there. You need to give me more time because my time was interrupted.

Sen. Gataya Mo Fire, kindly move the Motion.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I beg to move- THAT, AWARE THAT Article 43 of the Constitution of Kenya, 2010 stipulates the rights of every person to be free from hunger, to have adequate food of acceptable quality, and to clean and safe water in adequate quantities; FURTHER AWARE THAT there is a prevailing food shortage in Kenya which is as a result of among other factors, lack of and inadequate rainfall over the last two years, the consistent decline in the number of farmers and lands committed to farming, and the Russia-Ukraine war that has led to an increased cost of fertilizer and fuel products which are critical farm inputs, subjecting 4.1 million Kenyans in the Arid and Semi- Arid Lands (ASALs) to an acute food insecure situation and about 942,500 children under five years and 134,270 pregnant and lactating

Hon. Members I now open up the Floor for debate. Each Senator is to utilize five minutes to debate on this particular matter.

The Senator for Kakamega County, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, you may proceed.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. The debate on the Floor this afternoon requires that we demonstrate leadership not to cause panic in the countryside amongst the populace.

It is true that the President has expressed himself on the issue of GMO. Therefore, those who want to play politics by making him look bad should keep the populace away from it.

Hon. Members, I speak with maximum authority because I am not only a scientist; I am specifically trained in Medical Science. Scientists are ethical people and the common denominator of science, research and technology in this area is that only desirable strains are expressed agriculturally out of research that are harmless to the people.

The Senate Minority Leader, I beg you, let us not make people panic. The GMO that is in question is based on the following things on research; that when you are growing maize you have a challenge of the pest and you have got to fix them.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I request Sen. Seki to second the Motion.

What is your point of order, Sen. Olekina.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I have tremendous respect for the Senate Majority Whip. However, if history serves me right, the Majority Whip was a Member of Parliament when this Parliament banned the importation of GMO. I am sure my sister the distinguished Senator from Uasin Gishu County will make those submissions.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, the African Union (AU) banned the importation of GMO in this country. Is the Senate Majority Whip in order to lie to the public that there is nothing that has been found to be wrong? It the AU itself made those findings when he was a Member of this House.

Let us be honest with each other. I am not saying that he cannot debate. However, being a ranking Member of this House, he was a Member of Parliament when they passed a law to ban GMO into this country. Is he in order to deceive this nation?

There is a point of order from the Minority Leader.

The Senate Minority Leader (Sen. Madzayo) : Is the Senator for Kakamega, whom we have been together for a long time and I respect so much, in order to say that I have caused panic? To whom?

Without those extension officers, the county Governments are unable to follow up on what the farmer is doing, to know exactly whether the inputs that they have given to the farmers are used well. Therefore, there is need for a collaboration between the national and county Governments. More so, county Governments are mandated to ensure full devolution of agriculture.

I support.

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, could you address Sen. Olekina through the Chair.

Mr. Temporary Speaker Sir, I also rise to support this Motion. We know that every country is supposed to have strategic food reserves. These are supposed to meet the needs of its population whenever unforeseen circumstances such the ones witnessed in the country for a couple of months.

However, we know that there was an oversight on the side of the national Government. As much as agriculture is a devolved function, the responsibility of maintaining strategic grain reserves is vested in the national Government.

This was overlooked. Agriculture is a devolved function. We said, as a Senate, that we should take the responsibility of unbundling the functions that have been devolved and make sure that they go to the county government. We must also ensure that county governments come up with a strategic plan on how they will maintain their strategic reserves.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, it is an open secret that the problem we face in this country is actually brought by mismanagement of the logistics to preserve the post- harvest food whenever we enjoy a bumper harvest.

If you walk into Nyandarua County and part of Nyeri County today, a 110- kilogram (kg) sack of carrots is being sold at a throw away price. As a Government, we have failed to embrace value addition and to extend the lives of the food stuff that we harvest. If we work on technology that is currently largely available in the world, we will preserve some of the food that go to waste after harvest.

Countries like Holland harvest tomatoes and preserve them. Those tomatoes are used three years later. If we embrace that kind of technology, we will not have some parts of the country going hungry.

The rains have set in and we expect to have a bumper harvest of milk in the next couple of months. We will see a lot of it going to waste because the country has not prepared itself to deal with situations where we have a lot and too little.

Counties like Uasin Gishu are now harvesting maize but we have embarked on importation of the same. We will see a situation where the farmers in Rift Valley are not able to sell their surplus because the Government has already licensed importation of maize and other dried grains.

Therefore, we, as a Senate, have a duty to get back to the county governments, as proposed by Sen. Thang’wa, and ask the County Executive Committee Members (CECMs) of Agriculture, Livestock and Fisheries to explain to us what they are doing. We must also ask ourselves and the national Government of the policy frameworks that

Sen. Madzayo, what is your concern again?

The Senate Minority Leader (Sen. Madzayo) : Can I inform Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale?

Are you ready for the information Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale?

Yes, I can be informed. The Senate Minority Leader (Sen. Madzayo) : Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I inform my brother and a very close friend of mine, “the bullfighter”. In one of the Sittings, Sen. James Orengo, who was here in the 3rd Senate, stated very clearly that, the laws we pass or the decisions that we make here, if we do them because we are in power, then the same laws can come back to haunt us.

Therefore, he appealed for people to have sober approach to every decision they make in the Senate. If I can quote him he said, “the very Government you are protecting so much so jealously, comes back to eat its own at one stage.” I believe you were “eaten” at some stage.

As a medical doctor, he should not support a situation which he knows very well will have people become infertile. We will have dis-functioning of some areas. You are aware that this Genetically Modified Organism (GMOs) will cause a lot of harm to particularly men.

Young people such as the Senator for Kiambu will suffer the consequences. He might not even have six children like yourself. He might end up with only the one child he has.

When the rains do not come in January, I will use that water to irrigate my corn. We need to be innovative. I do not subscribe to the school of thought that says we must genetically modify the food for us to survive in this country. My views on GMO are advised by the research which is out there. I believe we will be adjourning the House in the next three minutes to discuss that issue.

I do not want future kids to be born with six fingers. Kenya is the largest economy in Eastern and Central Africa with a Gross domestic product (GDP) of 110 USD Billion but most of us who live in the rural areas still survive with 1 USD a day. That makes us a developing nation. If a normal citizen does not work in a day, they starve.

With the Motion that has been moved by Sen. Gataya Mo Fire, the Committee on Agriculture, Livestock and Fisheries should follow up and ensure that very little money is left in Nairobi, the capital. That is because agriculture is a devolved function. I am not talking about Nairobi City County. I need to clarify that because I do not want to get in trouble with my brother, the Senator for Nairobi City County. I am referring to the national Government.

We should also look at individual counties. In counties such as Kajiado, Narok, Samburu and those in the northern part of Kenya, we need to think about a government off-take program that guarantees that farmers can sell their cow at a minimum of Kshs50,000. Technology is there. I know I have 30 seconds.

My brother, the Senator for Nyeri County can sit down with me we discuss about the use of technology to preserve meat because he is already slaughtering the cow. However, he cannot come to discuss with me a technology where we are going to alter the genetics of human beings because to a greater extent, modifying the genetics of food also modifies the genetics of human beings.

In most cases - and I want to qualify my statement here - a lot of people suffer from secondary smoking. If you sit in a place where people are smoking every day or sleep in a room where everybody is smoking every day - you will experience secondary smoking. You are not the one primarily smoking but if you sleep in a room in which someone smokes on a daily basis, you will end up suffering.

I know that time is up and it is time for us to adjourn but since this is a matter which is continuing, the remaining minutes I can have them later.

a woman who has grown beard for getting the Covid-19 vaccine. I am yet to see my son growing breasts for the same reason or losing his libido.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, conspiracy cannot advance science. If we were relying on conspiracy, we would not be ruling the skies today. The jet engine is a product of science. The jet light tube is the reason why the Hon. Members in this House will enjoy the World Cup this evening and it was born out of research.

I conclude by confirming that it is agreed universally that food derived from genetic engineering is not in any way more harmful than conventional food. Sen. Olekina is right. He has talked about food toxicity and allergies.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am just concluding. The points of order were many. Thank you.

Sen. Olekina has talked about allergies, toxicity and others. My question is; were the allergic reactions that I saw in my clinic for years that people got after consuming food as a result of the Genetic Modified Organisms (GMO) ?

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I first took GMO when I was a little boy. We were given yellow maize because there was shortage of food. The same theories were there but people are still alive.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, the Senate Leader of Minority knows very well that the Senate Standing Orders are against a Member moving a Motion by reading a document.

Could he choose between reading the document or passing it out as handouts? He is a very experienced Senator, a lawyer of many years standing, a Judge and he is reading to us. Could he share with us that document so that when we are responding, we are also on the same page?

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, I noticed that Sen. Madzayo had actually finished reading the Motion and was contributing to it. He was not reading; if I could confirm what I saw. Go ahead Senator so that you conclude commenting on your Motion. The Senate Minority Leader (

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. This is a point of information to the distinguished Senator for Kakamega County on allergies. He has just spoken about it. He has asked to be told of one incident in history where issues have been caused by GMO foods.

As far back as 1996, there was a company called Pioneer Hi Bred that went on a GMO mission. They decided to splice Brazilian nuts together with soybeans. They did that and put that food in the market. Some consumers suffered anaphylactic shock which is a serious allergy because it can cause death. That was my point of information and this was as far back as 1996

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I felt the need to inform the good Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale that there is evidence out there in history.

Senator, kindly accept the

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, allow me. I would like to accept her point of information because she is right. However, as we say in science, little knowledge is dangerous. Eggs and fish cause allergy and they are not GMOs.

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, I gave you the opportunity to accept the information. Your time was up.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker.

Sen. (Prof.) Kamar.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, for giving me this opportunity. I listened very keenly to the previous speaker and never got his conclusion because he mixed science.

I will start from the history of banning of the GMOs in Kenya. I was privileged to serve in the 10th Parliament together with Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale. When the ban took place, I was the one who seconded the Motion tabled by the Minister of Health, Hon. Beth Mugo. At that time, I was the Minister of Science and Technology where the National Biosafety Authority was based.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, we banned the GMO because of unpreparedness. My contribution will be on how prepared we are to receive GMOs and whether we are ready. Do we just import or not? At that time, we had a meeting with Hon. Beth Mugo and we discussed the issue which was on health.

At that time, we had a meeting with Sen. Beth Mugo and we discussed the issue, which was health issues.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, we have borrowed this idea of banning Genetically Modified Organisms (GMOs) from the European Union (EU) . At that time, the EU had banned GMOs because of the fear that there was potential cause of harm to both human beings and livestock and no researcher, had given any conclusive evidence that there was no harm. Real facts and science were still being undertaken.

We had our own National Biosafety Authority which was under the Ministry which I was heading. I asked them one question: Are we ready? They said, no, for the reason that we had very good scientists but there was no research fund that could enable them test all the things we were talking about.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, as we are talking, 16 countries in the EU have banned GMOs; these are Germany, France, Lativia, Netherlands and all those foods producing countries, including Belgium. The reason these countries have banned GMOs is that they have not managed to conduct enough research to ascertain the safety of these foods.

The biggest question is; how ready are we as a country? Have we prepared ourselves? At that time, when I seconded, I gave a proposal that came from our research institutions and in particular the National Biosafety Authority that there is need to pump in funds for research so that our scientists can give us conclusive research on whether these products are really harmful or not.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, what is modification? It is all about removing a gene and adding another one. The question that I was waiting for

Where is the source of this gene that was introduced to the food crops that we have?

When we are here, the rules are set by this House. The issue of GMOs is emotive. I want people to be able to understand why some of us are completely against modified genetics. I want to demystify for people out there to understand clearly what I mean.

If you take a piece of corn whose genetics has been modified, in the USA where I lived for 20 years, it is my second home, most of the corn there is fed to animals. It is not fed to human beings. The nutritional value is zero. I know we have a very short time to be able to plead with Kenyans. I know I have two minutes left for me to finish---

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I would like to contribute to this matter firstly by stating that lifting the ban on GMOs does not mean in any way that whoever was using it will stop. Those with the luxury of engaging in GMOs agriculture; planting and harvesting such kind of food will continue to do so.

As a House representative of the people, we should confront the real facts as they are. Currently, Kenya is not food secure. That is the matter we are dealing with now. Sen. Gataya, Mo Fire raised a matter this afternoon on the drought situation. The truth of the matter is that Kenya is not food secure. This GMOs debate we are having is about embracing innovation so that we empower our farmers to also compete with other countries.

Zimbabwe and South Africa have been importing GMOs foods but have they been confronted by the horrors we are talking about in this House? That is something Hon. Members should think about. As an Upper House, we do not have the capacity to interrogate settled scientific issues; not unless we want to invite expert witnesses to this House.

With those few remarks, I also remind members that Azimio who are largely complaining that Kenya Kwanza is not doing anything to lower the cost of unga are the same people who are opposing initiatives being taken by the Government to help ordinary people afford the locally available products.

I thank you.

Sen. Faki proceed.

Asanti, Bw. Spika wa Muda kwa kunipa fursa hii kuchangia Hoja ya, Sen. Madzayo, kuhusu matumizi ya chakula cha GMOs ama vyakula vya kisaki-kwa Kiswahili sanifu- ama vyakula vya viini tete ambavyo Waziri wa Mambo ya Biashara alitangaza juzi viatakubaliwa nchini Kenya.

Najiunga na wenzangu wanaopinga uamuzi wa waziri wa kuleta vyakula hivi kwa sasa katika nchi yetu ya Kenya. Kwanza kabisa, hatujakuwa na u---

On a point of order.

Additionally, the weeds that grow along the maize you have to pick them and you also have to use the pesticides and the herbicides.

When scientists are doing this research, they make sure that the product that comes out is resistant to pests and herbicides and that is exactly what the GMO has done. It has brought out a strain that is resistant to pest and herbicides. That is all.

I swear you can do your reading, there is nowhere in the world, not one place where ill effects of GMO had been reported in any population anywhere in the world.

What is your point of order, Sen. Olekina.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I have tremendous respect for the Senate Majority Whip. However, if history serves me right, the Majority Whip was a Member of Parliament when this Parliament banned the importation of GMO. I am sure my sister the distinguished Senator from Uasin Gishu County will make those submissions.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, the African Union (AU) banned the importation of GMO in this country. Is the Senate Majority Whip in order to lie to the public that there is nothing that has been found to be wrong? It the AU itself made those findings when he was a Member of this House.

Let us be honest with each other. I am not saying that he cannot debate. However, being a ranking Member of this House, he was a Member of Parliament when they passed a law to ban GMO into this country. Is he in order to deceive this nation?

utafiti wa Kisayansi wa kutosha kuthibitisha kuwa vyakula hivi vilikuwa salama kwa Wakenya.

Mpaka sasa, hatujapata utafiti kamili wa kuthibitisha vyakula hivi viko salama kwa wakenya. Kule Kitui, kuna wakati ndugu zetu walifariki kwa kula mahindi yaliyokuwa yameharibiwa na sumu ya kuvu.

Bw. Spika wa Muda, naomba unilinde kwa sababu sitaweza kumaliza. Nimekwisha washiwa taa hapa, point of order zinakuja pia. Angeniliwacha nimalize kuchangia halafu yeye atapewa fursa nyingine. Bw. Spika wa Muda tunasema kwamba-- -

I want to intervene so that we do not waste much time again. What is your point of order Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale?

Is the Senator for Kakamega, whom we have been together for a long time and I respect so much, in order to say that I have caused panic? To whom?

That is not that--- Order Sen. Faki! Could you just---

The Senate Minority Leader (Sen. Madzayo) : On a point of order Mr. Temporary Speaker Sir.

What is your point of order Sen. Madzayo?

Just like in 2008, when a few number of scientists who were in Parliament had our say and the majority had their way. There is nothing we can do about it.

I assure members of the public that the Government cannot be reckless. There is no Government that would go to the people who voted for it, expect the same people to vote for it five years later and embark on a process of eliminating them. It is not possible.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I beg Members of this House - I have nothing against what you believe in, but believe in me---

No! Ni makossa sana---

I directed earlier that we are going to stick to the five minutes program because of the limitation of time to debate this Motion. Sen. Faki, proceed to give conclusion.

Can I inform Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale?

Bw. Spika wa Muda wakati wangu mwingi umetumika kwa hoja za nidhamu ambazo hazina msingi wa nidhamu yoyote. Bw. Spika wa Muda, Sen. (Dr) Khalwle anazungumzia germs ambavyo ni virusi. Lakini genetics ni viini ambavyo vinaunda mwili wa binadamu ama mwili wa mnyama yoyote ambaye anahusika. Hivyo basi tunasema kwa sasa hatujakuwa na utaalamu katika nchi yetu ya Kenya kuthibitisha kwamba vyakula hivi ni salama kwa wananchi wetu. Kwa sababu hiyo, haitakuwa sawa ile marufuku kuondolewa kwa sababu watu wengi watapata shida ya vyakula ambavyo hawajui vinatoka wapi.

Bw. Spika wa Muda, kuna nchi nyingi ambazo zina vyakula hivi na hawana mahali pa kuvipeleka ama kuviuza. Kwa hivyo, hii itaharibia pakubwa wakulima wetu ambao juzi tu walikuwa wanapewa mbolea iliyopunguzwa bei. Ikiwa mazao yao yatakuja kwa wingi, wale watauza mazao yao wapi?

Serikali hii ya Kenya Kwanza au ‘Kenya Kwisha’ imetoa fursa ya kutoa mbolea kwa bei nafuu kwa wakulima wa mahindi ili waweze kuzalisha mahindi zaidi ya yale wanayozalisha kwa sasa. Ikiwa tutakubali mazao kama haya ambayo yana utata, wale wakulima wetu watauza mahindi yao wapi?

Bw. Spika wa Muda, ni kweli tuna upungufu wa mahindi lakini, tayari katika East African Community, tunaweza kupata mahindi kutoka Tanzania, Malawi, Common Market for Eastern and Southern Africa (COMESA) na Uganda. Kwa hivyo, kwa wakati huu, haifai kuleta vyakula kama hivi ambavyo vina utata na hatujui madhara yake.

Kwa kumalizia, wiki tatu zilizopita, nilizungumzia zile dawa za kututumua mwili ambazo dada wengi wanatumia kupanua makalio. Hivi vyakula vya Kisaki ama Genetically Modified Organism (GMO) vitakuwa na athari kama hiyo ambayo kwa sasa hatujui.

Tayari, kuna mkurupuko ya magonjwa ya cancer nchini mwetu. Cancer za koo na za matiti kwa kina dada. Saratani za tumbo kwa watu wengi zimeongezeka haza kwa wanaume ambao zaidi wanapata athari kama hizo. Kwa sasa, tukiruhusu vyakula hivi, itakuwa tunahatarisha maisha ya wananchi wa Kenya.

Bw. Spika wa Muda, mwisho ni kuwa, ilikuwa ni kejeli kwa Waziri Moses Kuria kusema kuwa wananchi wa Kenya tayari wanakufa na wanaendelea kufa kwa hivyo hata wakifa kwa GMO itakuwa hakuna hasara yoyote. Hiyo ni kuonyesha kwamba hajali maisha ya Mkenya katika nchi yetu.

Sen. Nyamu, please proceed.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, the matter before us is of national interest. We are being called upon as leaders to find solutions to the dire hunger facing our country. We are called upon to take care of the people we represent in this House. It is quite unfortunate that this debate is taking a political angle.

Thank you, for the information but it looks like you are a poor student.

The Hon. Sen. Orengo was referring to a statement of literature, that is “revolutions eat their own children”. Therefore, when you want to apply facts of science, keep away from the drama of literature.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, the people who are opposing this Motion have a right to do so.

However, they should not forget that they are being driven by conspiracy theories. A few months ago, this country was abound with conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 vaccine. We were told all manner of things. I have been vaccinated four times. My wives and children have been vaccinated as well as many people in Kakamega. I am yet to meet

Thank you, Sen. Nyamu. Sen. Sifuna, you have the Floor. You can proceed.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, for giving me an opportunity to contribute to this particular debate.

As you know, I am not a scientist, I am a lawyer. So, I will not stand here to argue the science. In fact, I took great exception to a statement by my brother, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale that scientist are ethical people. Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale went to the same school that I did; Musingu High School and they taught history in that school. You will recall the phenomenon of Nazi scientists; the people who came up with the gas chambers that were used to perpetuate mass murders. Those people were scientists.

The people who gave us big things like atomic bombs were scientists. Recently, there was a discussion on whether the Corona Virus was manufactured in a lab. What we are saying is that human beings, irrespective of their training and profession, have the capacity for evil especially, when you put commercial interest ahead of the human interest.

I am going to refer this House to the legal arguments and leave the science to Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale though I do not want to call him a scientist. As a lawyer, I understand that under Article 10 of the Constitution of Kenya, whenever any state organ, state officer or public officer makes or implements public policy decision, as grave as this one on the lifting of the ban on the Genetically Modified Organisms (GMOs) , they are bound by the values and principles under Article 10 of the Constitution of Kenya.

I will refer you to three of these values. Number one, is participation of the people, what we usually call public participation. We may argue the science and we should be allowed to argue the science but Sen. (Prof.) Kamar has told us that there was a reason why this ban was put in place in 2012.

If there is new science to show us that this food is safe, we should be shown the new evidence that has emerged to show that these particular organisms are now safe. We are not damn people. We can be taught. We are teachable people. However, as it is, we

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am just concluding. The points of order were many. Thank you.

Sen. Olekina has talked about allergies, toxicity and others. My question is; were the allergic reactions that I saw in my clinic for years that people got after consuming food as a result of the Genetic Modified Organisms (GMO) ?

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I first took GMO when I was a little boy. We were given yellow maize because there was shortage of food. The same theories were there but people are still alive.

On a point of information, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, she will inform me later but before she informs me, I want to inform Kenyans that in my culture, we believe there is nothing like bad food. Food is only bad when one is not hungry.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, if you allow, I would like Sen. Crystal Asige to inform me.

Go ahead, Sen. Crystal Asige. You do not have a microphone? It is being brought to you, you can go ahead.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. This is a point of information to the distinguished Senator for Kakamega County on allergies. He has just spoken about it. He has asked to be told of one incident in history where issues have been caused by GMO foods.

As far back as 1996, there was a company called Pioneer Hi Bred that went on a GMO mission. They decided to splice Brazilian nuts together with soybeans. They did that and put that food in the market. Some consumers suffered anaphylactic shock which is a serious allergy because it can cause death. That was my point of information and this was as far back as 1996

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I felt the need to inform the good Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale that there is evidence out there in history.

Senator, kindly accept the

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, allow me. I would like to accept her point of information because she is right. However, as we say in science, little knowledge is dangerous. Eggs and fish cause allergy and they are not GMOs.

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, I gave you the opportunity to accept the information. Your time was up.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, just a minute. Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale knows that 30 per cent of GMO food in the USA is used for biofuels and 8 per cent is used to make the fructose that makes corn syrup that is basically for processed sweets and then the rest is exported. There is nowhere in the USA where people consume these GMO.

Senator, your time is up. Kindly proceed, Sen. Wamatinga.

Thank you, very much Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I am also surprised by the little knowledge that is in this House. Being an engineer, I want to say process optimization, modification, reengineering is actually undertaken to achieve more efficiency as has been raised here by Sen. Thang’wa.

When you cross breed animals and graft plants, you actually modify them genetically. When you craft plants, you modify them genetically. What we are saying here is that we want to get a breed of crop called maize that will do better in Turkana, Samburu, Maralal and in the dry regions. We optimize the seeds to have better production. When you talk about the food that is being made for animal feed, we know that the products that are fed to animals we eventually consume them.

Therefore, I find that Senators are misleading the House that GMOs are actually meant to poison humans and that is not true. GMOs have been made to optimize production to achieve better products.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I do not want to be informed.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, what is modification? It is all about removing a gene and adding another one. The question that I was waiting for

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. This House is a House of representative of the people. Whatever decision and resolution that we make here, it must resonate with the interest of the people we represent. However, if we come here and pursue interests of our political inclination then, we are driving Kenyans in the wrong direction.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, you are aware that GMOs were banned in Kenya in 2012 and there was a reason. Let us reflect on the reasons that led to the ban of GMOs in Kenya. It was because of a scientific report called Seralini study that associated cancer among the rats to GMOs.

We also have issues to do with antibiotic resistance, allergic reactions and many other effects on people’s health. Here we are trying to push Kenyans to eat GMO foods. This is the highest act of irresponsibility on the part of the Government to try and push through GMOs without public participation.

Organizations who are stakeholders in this particular sector have complained that they were not consulted by the Government. The Government has decided to ignore them and move on. Then we are told, the next minute, that maize is being imported into this country. Even before the Gazette notice is published, we are told there are several vessels on the seas ready to deliver maize in Kenya.

Thank you, for your contribution. I urge the Hon. Members to stick to the time because the interest in this Motion is heavy. I would be happy if everyone who expressed interest got the opportunity to do so.

Kindly, let us keep to the five minutes’ time. Thereafter, we shall be very strict. Proceed, Sen. Okenyuri.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. Seriously, the use of hunger cries does not justify a decision to allow GMOs in this country. This is actually unsettling and a clear violation of the principles of human rights.

GMOs were banned in 2012. I wonder where they have been resuscitated from. For this reason, we are concerned with our safety when it comes to GMOs. This is especially on our own consumption with this generic modified food, it is unacceptable.

Kenyans deserve whole nutritious foods that are grown organically. Why is Kenya willing to feed its people on GMOs when many other countries fear them?

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I know I do not have time but then, we are not really happy with our safety concerns. We are not being considerate to the general public regarding the GMOs.

Thank you.

Sen. Faki proceed.

Asanti, Bw. Spika wa Muda kwa kunipa fursa hii kuchangia Hoja ya, Sen. Madzayo, kuhusu matumizi ya chakula cha GMOs ama vyakula vya kisaki-kwa Kiswahili sanifu- ama vyakula vya viini tete ambavyo Waziri wa Mambo ya Biashara alitangaza juzi viatakubaliwa nchini Kenya.

Najiunga na wenzangu wanaopinga uamuzi wa waziri wa kuleta vyakula hivi kwa sasa katika nchi yetu ya Kenya. Kwanza kabisa, hatujakuwa na u---

On a point of order.

What is your point of order, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale?

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, ni sahihi Sen. Faki kusema kwamba hivi vyakula vya GMOs viko na viini? Tafadhali kama ana maana ya chembe ambazo zinadhuru atueleze. Na pia atueleze viini vinasababisha magonjwa gani.

Atuambie hivyo viini vinasababisha ugonjwa gani?

Sijasema chakula cha Genetically Modified Organisms (GMO) kina viini. Lakini GMO ni Genetically Modified foods ambapo genetics kwa Kiswahili tunaiita vinasaba. Vinasaba ndio genetics. Kwa hivyo hivi ni vinasaba tete kwa sababu ni vinasaba ambavyo havijulikani vimeundwa kwa misingi gani. Ndio vikaitwa vinasaba tete kwa sababu havikubaliki kisayansi.

Bw. Spika wa Muda, kwa lugha nyingine ya Kiswahili ni vyakula vilivyobadilishwa vinasaba. Kwa hivyo, ni kwamba kwa sasa hatuna utaalamu hapa nchini Kenya. Nikimnukuu Sen. (Prof.) Kamar, alisema swala hili lilikuwepo 2012 wakati walipopiga marufuku matumizi ya vyakula hivi. Sababu kuu ikiwa hakukuwa na

utafiti wa Kisayansi wa kutosha kuthibitisha kuwa vyakula hivi vilikuwa salama kwa Wakenya.

Mpaka sasa, hatujapata utafiti kamili wa kuthibitisha vyakula hivi viko salama kwa wakenya. Kule Kitui, kuna wakati ndugu zetu walifariki kwa kula mahindi yaliyokuwa yameharibiwa na sumu ya kuvu.

Bw. Spika wa Muda, naomba unilinde kwa sababu sitaweza kumaliza. Nimekwisha washiwa taa hapa, point of order zinakuja pia. Angeniliwacha nimalize kuchangia halafu yeye atapewa fursa nyingine. Bw. Spika wa Muda tunasema kwamba-- -

I want to intervene so that we do not waste much time again. What is your point of order Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale?

Bw. Spika wa Muda, rekodi ya Nyumba hii lazima ionyeshe ukweli. Sen. Faki anatuambia maana ya viini ni genetics kwa lugha ya kimombo. Na kulingana na kamusi, na kwa idhini yako, naomba nisomee hii nyumba maana ya viini. Kulingana na kamusi ‘viini ama vijidudu kwa lugha ya kimombo ni germs ama chombo chochote kinacholeta magonjwa.

Je, ni haki kwa Seneta anayejigamba kutoka Pwani kupotosha hii nyumba kwamba viini ni genetics na sisi tunajua ni vijidudu?

That is not that--- Order Sen. Faki! Could you just--- The Senate Minority Leader (

On a point of order Mr. Temporary Speaker Sir.

What is your point of order Sen. Madzayo?

You are not on the microphone

Bw. Spika wa Muda, itakuwa ni tabia mbaya sana kama utaruhusu kitu kama hiki kutendeka. Kama Seneta anaongea, huwa kwa akili yake amejipanga vile ataeleza fikira zake. Ikiwa sasa itakuwa ni werevu au kusimama tu na kusema niko na hoja ya nidhamu, halafu aanze kuongea mambo kiholela, ni lazima ulinde yule anayeongea. Yule anayeongea ana haki ya kuongea bila kutatizwa.

That is not--- The Senate Minority Leader (

No! Ni makossa sana---

I directed earlier that we are going to stick to the five minutes program because of the limitation of time to debate this Motion. Sen. Faki, proceed to give conclusion.

Bw. Spika wa Muda wakati wangu mwingi umetumika kwa hoja za nidhamu ambazo hazina msingi wa nidhamu yoyote. Bw. Spika wa Muda, Sen. (Dr) Khalwle anazungumzia germs ambavyo ni virusi. Lakini genetics ni viini ambavyo vinaunda mwili wa binadamu ama mwili wa mnyama yoyote ambaye anahusika. Hivyo basi tunasema kwa sasa hatujakuwa na utaalamu katika nchi yetu ya Kenya kuthibitisha kwamba vyakula hivi ni salama kwa wananchi wetu. Kwa sababu hiyo, haitakuwa sawa ile marufuku kuondolewa kwa sababu watu wengi watapata shida ya vyakula ambavyo hawajui vinatoka wapi.

Bw. Spika wa Muda, kuna nchi nyingi ambazo zina vyakula hivi na hawana mahali pa kuvipeleka ama kuviuza. Kwa hivyo, hii itaharibia pakubwa wakulima wetu ambao juzi tu walikuwa wanapewa mbolea iliyopunguzwa bei. Ikiwa mazao yao yatakuja kwa wingi, wale watauza mazao yao wapi?

Serikali hii ya Kenya Kwanza au ‘Kenya Kwisha’ imetoa fursa ya kutoa mbolea kwa bei nafuu kwa wakulima wa mahindi ili waweze kuzalisha mahindi zaidi ya yale wanayozalisha kwa sasa. Ikiwa tutakubali mazao kama haya ambayo yana utata, wale wakulima wetu watauza mahindi yao wapi?

Bw. Spika wa Muda, ni kweli tuna upungufu wa mahindi lakini, tayari katika East African Community, tunaweza kupata mahindi kutoka Tanzania, Malawi, Common Market for Eastern and Southern Africa (COMESA) na Uganda. Kwa hivyo, kwa wakati huu, haifai kuleta vyakula kama hivi ambavyo vina utata na hatujui madhara yake.

Kwa kumalizia, wiki tatu zilizopita, nilizungumzia zile dawa za kututumua mwili ambazo dada wengi wanatumia kupanua makalio. Hivi vyakula vya Kisaki ama Genetically Modified Organism (GMO) vitakuwa na athari kama hiyo ambayo kwa sasa hatujui.

Tayari, kuna mkurupuko ya magonjwa ya cancer nchini mwetu. Cancer za koo na za matiti kwa kina dada. Saratani za tumbo kwa watu wengi zimeongezeka haza kwa wanaume ambao zaidi wanapata athari kama hizo. Kwa sasa, tukiruhusu vyakula hivi, itakuwa tunahatarisha maisha ya wananchi wa Kenya.

Bw. Spika wa Muda, mwisho ni kuwa, ilikuwa ni kejeli kwa Waziri Moses Kuria kusema kuwa wananchi wa Kenya tayari wanakufa na wanaendelea kufa kwa hivyo hata wakifa kwa GMO itakuwa hakuna hasara yoyote. Hiyo ni kuonyesha kwamba hajali maisha ya Mkenya katika nchi yetu.

Sen. Nyamu, please proceed.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, the matter before us is of national interest. We are being called upon as leaders to find solutions to the dire hunger facing our country. We are called upon to take care of the people we represent in this House. It is quite unfortunate that this debate is taking a political angle.

like any other thing, GMOs have pros and cons to it. The pros include; drought resistant crops, a shorter growth period, less use of pesticide and tastier food.

I have also read of potatoes that have aspects of reducing cancer and things like that – medicinal food. GMO is a product of science and we know that science is supposed to benefit and it has benefited humanity in a big way.

Therefore, I expect this House to take a position on behalf of the people of Kenya. Let us not be sensational about the food situation that we are currently facing.

Can you imagine people who are eating wild fruits listening to us right now talking about how we will not give them maize just because it is GMO because there are some few concerns that they could die? Let us rise up to the occasion and lift the ban on GMOs even if it is for a period of time before we can become food sufficient.

Thank you, Sen. Nyamu. Sen. Sifuna, you have the Floor. You can proceed.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, for giving me an opportunity to contribute to this particular debate.

As you know, I am not a scientist, I am a lawyer. So, I will not stand here to argue the science. In fact, I took great exception to a statement by my brother, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale that scientist are ethical people. Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale went to the same school that I did; Musingu High School and they taught history in that school. You will recall the phenomenon of Nazi scientists; the people who came up with the gas chambers that were used to perpetuate mass murders. Those people were scientists.

The people who gave us big things like atomic bombs were scientists. Recently, there was a discussion on whether the Corona Virus was manufactured in a lab. What we are saying is that human beings, irrespective of their training and profession, have the capacity for evil especially, when you put commercial interest ahead of the human interest.

I am going to refer this House to the legal arguments and leave the science to Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale though I do not want to call him a scientist. As a lawyer, I understand that under Article 10 of the Constitution of Kenya, whenever any state organ, state officer or public officer makes or implements public policy decision, as grave as this one on the lifting of the ban on the Genetically Modified Organisms (GMOs) , they are bound by the values and principles under Article 10 of the Constitution of Kenya.

I will refer you to three of these values. Number one, is participation of the people, what we usually call public participation. We may argue the science and we should be allowed to argue the science but Sen. (Prof.) Kamar has told us that there was a reason why this ban was put in place in 2012.

If there is new science to show us that this food is safe, we should be shown the new evidence that has emerged to show that these particular organisms are now safe. We are not damn people. We can be taught. We are teachable people. However, as it is, we

are protesting a unilateral decision by the Government or the Cabinet to lift the ban without having allowed this broad discussion to happen.

Secondly, there is a value called patriotism. Patriotism means you love your own country and you protect your own people. There have been arguments that the introduction of the GMOs is going to disenfranchise many farmers because of the question of the technology that is employed in the field of genetics.

There are arguments that many of the organisms that have been created out of this process are subject to very serious patents that one cannot even reuse the seeds once they have planted one crop. They have to go back to the person who patented the crop to buy that particular crop. That means that the Government, in making this decision, is being unpatriotic by failing to protect our very own farmers. Patriotism also means that you love your people. You cannot love your people and as a Cabinet Secretary (CS) for Trade, Investment and Industry, you stand up and say that there are one thousand ways to die so let us add one more way to die so that Kenyans can have a choice.

Lastly, there is the need to protect the marginalized. You have been told here that in other countries, the food is labelled as GMO and non-GMO then one has a choice.

Sen. Sifuna, we are running out of time. Please conclude.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, just one minute, it is the last point. The position of the Catholic Church, which Sen. Sifuna is a baptised and confirmed member, is that this food called GMO is a no-go zone for us as Catholics. I thank you.

Thank you very much Sen. Sifuna. Hon. Members, I notice that it is one minute to 6:30 p.m. We are supposed to adjourn at 6:30 p.m. but under Standing Order No.34, I am extending the sitting of the

House for the next 10 minutes in order to accommodate the Hon. Senators who are in the queue.

I want to request those who will get an opportunity to contribute to use two minutes for us to all have an opportunity to contribute to this.

Sen. Thangw’a, you have the Floor.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. In 2020, South Africa conducted consumer awareness in matters Genetically Modified Organisms (GMO) . Their finding was that illiteracy was an impediment. People did not understand about GMO. I would want this House to be included in that list of people who do not understand what GMO is and are therefore, blocking the idea because they do not understand it. Even the Bible in says Hosea 4:6 that my people will perish due to lack of knowledge and information.

As it has been urged by fellow Senators, let us understand exactly what GMO is. Our forefathers have been practising GMO for a long time; genetically modifying plants by cutting a piece of branch from a different plant and putting it to another. That is grafting and is genetically modifying the genes of that plant.

When you do cross-breeding, you take your heifer to your neighbour’s house because they have a better breed, you are genetically modifying that heifer to get proper production. Before we say no to GMO, let us understand that it is coming to solve the issue of hunger.

Twenty eight countries cannot be wrong. Eighty three per cent of soya beans grown in the whole world is GMO. We have been drinking that milk in our supermarkets. After nearly three decades of GMO use - according to my research - the International Service for the Acquisition of Agribiotech Application (ISAA) , found no harm in the consumption of GMO. This is a debate that---

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. My heart bleeds very seriously for my country because when matters which pose existential threat to us are brought to this House, I expect us to suspend our bi-partisan nature as a House. When we choose to poison animals and plants, we are poisoning ourselves. We cannot hide the GMO agenda on shortage of food in place of availability of food.

Today’s world population is averaged at 7.8 billion. The projection is that by the year 2050, we will have about 9 billion people in the world. The production of food in the world today is enough to feed 14 billion people. The question is not, and has never been the issue of shortage. It is the issue of availability.

In this country we have seen - and Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale is clear on this - that when drought is killing people in the north, we have Kenyans in Kiambu taking their cabbages to give to animals because they lack access to the market. We cannot trivialize the issue of GMO to an extent that we want to kill our people.

You cannot talk about GMO without looking at the USA. The USA is a key partner of Kenya on matters GMO and 50 per cent of GMO food in the USA is given to animals.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, just a minute. Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale knows that 30 per cent of GMO food in the USA is used for biofuels and 8 per cent is used to make the fructose that makes corn syrup that is basically for processed sweets and then the rest is exported. There is nowhere in the USA where people consume these GMO.

Senator, your time is up. Kindly proceed, Sen. Wamatinga.

Thank you, very much Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I am also surprised by the little knowledge that is in this House. Being an engineer, I want to say process optimization, modification, reengineering is actually undertaken to achieve more efficiency as has been raised here by Sen. Thang’wa.

When you cross breed animals and graft plants, you actually modify them genetically. When you craft plants, you modify them genetically. What we are saying here is that we want to get a breed of crop called maize that will do better in Turkana, Samburu, Maralal and in the dry regions. We optimize the seeds to have better production. When you talk about the food that is being made for animal feed, we know that the products that are fed to animals we eventually consume them.

Therefore, I find that Senators are misleading the House that GMOs are actually meant to poison humans and that is not true. GMOs have been made to optimize production to achieve better products.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I do not want to be informed.

Thank you Senator. Let us now, listen to Sen. Osotsi.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. This House is a House of representative of the people. Whatever decision and resolution that we make here, it must resonate with the interest of the people we represent. However, if we come here and pursue interests of our political inclination then, we are driving Kenyans in the wrong direction.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, you are aware that GMOs were banned in Kenya in 2012 and there was a reason. Let us reflect on the reasons that led to the ban of GMOs in Kenya. It was because of a scientific report called Seralini study that associated cancer among the rats to GMOs.

We also have issues to do with antibiotic resistance, allergic reactions and many other effects on people’s health. Here we are trying to push Kenyans to eat GMO foods. This is the highest act of irresponsibility on the part of the Government to try and push through GMOs without public participation.

Organizations who are stakeholders in this particular sector have complained that they were not consulted by the Government. The Government has decided to ignore them and move on. Then we are told, the next minute, that maize is being imported into this country. Even before the Gazette notice is published, we are told there are several vessels on the seas ready to deliver maize in Kenya.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, this is corruption---

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. Seriously, the use of hunger cries does not justify a decision to allow GMOs in this country. This is actually unsettling and a clear violation of the principles of human rights.

GMOs were banned in 2012. I wonder where they have been resuscitated from. For this reason, we are concerned with our safety when it comes to GMOs. This is especially on our own consumption with this generic modified food, it is unacceptable.

Kenyans deserve whole nutritious foods that are grown organically. Why is Kenya willing to feed its people on GMOs when many other countries fear them?

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I know I do not have time but then, we are not really happy with our safety concerns. We are not being considerate to the general public regarding the GMOs.

Thank you.

Hon. Senators, let us rise. It is now 6.41 p.m., time to adjourn the House. The Senate, therefore stands adjourned to tomorrow, Wednesday 23rd November, 2022, at 2.30 p.m.

The Senate rose at 6.41 p.m.