THE PARLIAMENT OF KENYA
THE SENATE
THE HANSARD
PARLIAMENT OF KENYA
Thursday, 20th June, 2019
NOTICES OF MOTIONS
PLANTING OF TREES ALONG MAJOR INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS IN KENYA
Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg to give notice of the following Motion- THAT, AWARE of the numerous benefits that trees play in environmental conservation, combating climate change, air and water purification, carbon sequestration, flood control, prevention of soil erosion, human and wildlife sustenance, urban planning, as well as other social and economic benefits; NOTING THAT Kenya has and continues to implement various infrastructure projects across the country, among them railways, roads and highways, airports, sea and inland ports, pipelines, dams, among others; CONCERNED by the extent of environmental degradation that takes place when undertaking such infrastructure projects, entailing clearance of trees, foliage, soils, rocks, excavation of quarries, interference with forests, wetlands, rivers, drainage systems and other embankments, as well as human and wildlife displacement along the paths of the infrastructure projects; ACKNOWLEDGING THAT the Environmental Management and Coordination Act
and the Guidelines issued thereon require an environmental audit to be undertaken before any infrastructure projects are undertaken, with a view to identifying potential environmental impacts of the proposed projects, assessing the significance of those impacts, and proposing mitigation measures to address the negative impacts of the said projects on the environment; CONCERNED HOWEVER THAT the implementation of these provisions has failed to comprehensively address the continued large-scale environmental degradation that takes place during construction of these infrastructure projects, and that the mitigation measures undertaken thereon have failed to compensate for the damage
done to the environment as well as the negative effects to human and wildlife populations along the infrastructure project paths; AWARE THAT the national Government has launched an ambitious plan to plant 1.8 billion trees by the year 2022, with a view to enhancing the country’s tree cover from 6.2 per cent to the globally accepted minimum of 10 per cent , and that this entails, among others, planting at least 1 million trees annually in each of the 47 counties; UNDERSCORING the need to balance between development and sustainable environmental management, for the benefit of present and future generations, as enshrined in the preamble to the Constitution of Kenya; NOTING that planting of tree buffers alongside and around major infrastructure projects in the country would help offset the carbon footprint of these projects, enhance the beauty and aesthetics of the projects, create safe spaces for human recreation and for wildlife to thrive, and help in meeting the target of 10 per cent national tree cover by the year 2022; NOW THEREFORE, the Senate resolves that the national Government, together with the county governments, formulate a policy mandating the planting of trees alongside and around all major infrastructure projects across the country, setting out the roles of various actors at both the national and county levels, and outlining incentives and penalties to ensure that the policy is complied with, in ensuring a balance is attained between development and environmental conservation. I thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir.
Sen. (Dr.) Zani, I can see that you are ready to give your notice of Motion.
STAFF RATIONALIZATION IN COUNTIES
Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg to give notice of the following Motion-
THAT, AWARE THAT the Senate represents the counties, and serves to protect the interests of the counties and their governments; FURTHER AWARE THAT, the launch of the Capacity Assessment and Rationalization of the Public Service (CARPS) Programme was launched by the Inter-Governmental Steering Committee (IGSC) on 14th July 2014 with the objective of transforming the Public Service for efficient and effective service delivery at both levels of Government; NOTING THAT, the implementation timelines for the CARPS programme of two years specifically with regard to the capacity assessment, workload analysis and staff redeployment and transfers, are of paramount importance in the counties as the terms of all second term county governors come to a close in 2022; CONCERNED THAT, county governments are still engaged in uncontrolled hiring of staff in total violation of applicable laws, exposing a glaring imbalance between money spent on recurrent
expenditure, versus budgets for development projects which are the essence of devolution; CONCERNED FURTHER THAT, contrary to Section 15(2)(b) of the Public Finance Management (PFM) Act, in counties such as Nairobi, Machakos, Garissa, Kisumu, Wajir, Baringo, Narok, Nakuru and Nyamira, staff salaries consumed in excess of 75 per cent of total expenditure, over and above the set limit of 35 per cent as provided in Regulation 25(1) of the Public Finance Management (County Governments) Regulations, 2015 during the FY 2018/2019; DEEPLY CONCERNED THAT, although Section 65 of the County Governments Act requires that more than 30 per cent of the vacancies at entry level be given to members of ethnic groups that are not dominant in their precincts, the 2016 Ethnic and Diversity audit launched by the National Cohesion and Integration Commission revealed that 68 per cent of counties have hired more than 70 per cent of their staff from one ethnic group; NOW THEREFORE in exercise of its oversight function, the Senate resolves that the Public Service Commission (PSC), Inter- Governmental Relations Technical Committee (IGTRC) and the Council of Governors (CoG) provide a comprehensive report on-
Hon. Senators, we are using the Supplementary Order Paper.
RESOLUTION BY THE SENATE TO INSTITUTE LEGAL PROCEEDINGS TO CHALLENGE LAWS ENACTED UNPROCEDURALLY IN THE 12TH PARLIAMENT
Assembly and the Senate shall jointly resolve any question as to whether any Bill is a Bill concerning counties, and if it is, whether it is a special or an ordinary Bill; AND NOTING in particular, that the Supreme Court in Supreme Court Advisory Opinion No. 2 of 2013; Speaker of the Senate vs The Attorney General reaffirmed the role of the Senate in the legislative process and particularly in the consideration and passage of Bills concerning county governments as well as the role of the Senate in the legislative process; CONCERNED that despite the provisions of Articles 96(1) and
NOW THEREFORE THE SENATE-
Hon. Senators, let us now go back to Order No.5. Those who are seeking to speak, that was just a Notice of Motion.
Next Order, by the Chairperson of the Committee on Health.
PAPERS LAID
Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg to lay the following papers today, Thursday, 20th June, 2019-
REPORT ON THE KENYA MEDICAL SUPPLIES AUTHORITY (AMENDMENT) BILL, 2018
Report on the Mental Health (Amendment) Bill, 2018
Proceed, Senate Majority Leader.
REPORTS ON FINANCIAL STATEMENTS OF VARIOUS COUNTY AGENCIES/FUNDS
Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table of the Senate today, Thursday 20th June, 2019:
Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements of Makueni County
Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements of Makueni County
Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements of Makueni County
Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements of Limuru Water
Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements of Bungoma
Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements of Kenya Health
Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements of Nyamira County
Next Order.
STATEMENTS
RISING CASES OF MEDICAL NEGLIGENCE AND MALPRACTICES IN PRIVATE HEALTH FACILITIES
Mr. Speaker, Sir, pursuant to Standing Order 47 (1) I stand to give a Statement on an issue of general topical concern on the rise of negligence and medical malpractices in private health facilities.
As the House may already be aware, lately, there have been several cases of medical negligence and malpractices in private health facilities in the country that have led to the loss of lives of patients. Last week, a woman died while delivering a baby at Ruai Family Hospital. According to the late woman’s husband, the hospital staff refused to allow him to transfer her to a different medical facility following a complication during birth. Consequently, the woman bled to death.
Mr. Speaker, Sir, this was not only such incident at the hospital. In 2017, the hospital was investigated by the Kenya Medical Practitioners and Dentists Board (KMPDB) for negligence after the foot of a three-week old newborn baby girl was amputated in a case of suspected medical negligence. The baby girl’s foot had been cut off after it became carcinogenous after a needle for intravenous fluids administration was left in her foot for over three weeks.
Mr. Speaker, Sir, a few months ago, another incident was witnessed at Shalom Hospital in Athi River, where a woman was said to have been left to give birth on the floor unattended as nurses allegedly watched the television and took tea. As investigations on this particular incident was going on, the Machakos Branch of Shalom Hospital was facing accusations of medical negligence following the death of a seven-month old baby boy after being injected with a lethal dose of morphine. After
investigations, it was ascertained that the death of the infant could have been prevented and that the hospital lacked proper procedures, adequate staffing among a myriad of other medical processing lapses.
Mr. Speaker, Sir, all these cases of medical negligence and malpractices have caused untold pain and psychological torture to families affected. I would, therefore, urge the Standing Committee of Health to investigate the matter of rampant medical negligence in the country with a view to arresting the trend and succinctly establish-
I do not see any interest. Next Statement from Sen. Halake.
ZERO-RATING OF DUTY AND VAT ON LOCALLY MANUFACTURED MENSTRUAL HYGIENE PRODUCTS
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. This Statement was supposed to have coincided with the reading of the Budget, but I will still go ahead with it, because we are still going to push for zero-rating of these products.
Mr. Speaker, Sir, I stand pursuant to Standing Order 48 (1) to request a Statement from the Standing Committee on Finance and Budget regarding the issue of zero-rating of duty and VAT on locally manufactured menstrual hygiene products.
In the Statement, I would like the Committee to explain-
Mr. Speaker, Sir, I support that Statement by Sen. Halake on zero rating of menstrual hygiene products.
For too many years, we have just given lip service to our women and young girls in this country. Menstruation is a natural process. It is not a choice, but many of our young girls even have to stay out of school because we have not been able to provide for them appropriately.
I urge that the Committee on Finance and Budget to move with speed to make sure that all women in this country benefit from the zero rating of Value Added Tax (VAT) on menstrual hygiene products because it is not a choice that they make whether they go through the cycle or not. It is something that happens naturally and all over.
I do not see any other interest.
THE PSC’S RADICAL POLICY ON EMPLOYMENT OF CIVIL SERVANTS ON CONTRACT
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Pursuant to Standing Order No.51 (1) (a) , I rise to make a Statement as the Chairperson of the Standing Committee on Labour and Social Welfare regarding the Public Service Commission---
Order, Members! Let us consult in low tones. The Statement being raised is very important.
Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am concerned that it is Members of my Committee who are not listening when they should be listening to this.
Pursuant to Standing Order No.51 (1) (a) , I rise to make a Statement as the Chairperson of the Standing Committee on Labour and Social Welfare regarding the Public Service Commission’s (PSC’s) radical policy on-
[The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Nyamunga) in the Chair]
Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. The Chairperson of the Standing Committee on Labour and Social Welfare has brought an important issue. Unlike on previous occasions where we, as Members of Parliament (MPs) , had not been in consonant with the Executive side of Government in their attempt to do
one or two things, if there is an area that requires a broader spectrum view to the issues that are before us, then it is this issue.
Madam Temporary Speaker, I know for a fact and as they say, figures do not lie. You only need to look at our current Budget and see the amount of money we spend on remunerations benefits only a few people in the country. We have about 700,000 public servants in a country of almost 50 million people. Out of revenue collections of Kshs1.4 trillion, close to Kshs800 billion goes to funding these particular individuals. We, as a country, must have a holistic view to this issue.
I am not opposing it just for the sake of opposing, but we must also be convinced that the Cabinet Secretary (CS) for the Ministry of Public Service, Youth and Gender Affairs lays out a proper procedure. She must also justify before this House of Parliament because it is extremely important that they do so. We will then understand whether it is only about future public servants that are to be engaged on this and what happens to institutions that have already engaged public servants and their service is not needed at this particular time.
Order, Senator! Hon. Senators,
Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. My point is that we need to do a qualitative analysis to this process. We must ensure that 50 million of us citizens of this country get value for the taxes that we pay. As at now, the truth is that we do not. Every Kenyan pays taxes, but very few of us access public service courtesy of spending almost three-quarters of our revenue collection on paying public wages alone.
It will, therefore, be important that when the CS tables that policy before us, as we consider it, we look at it with those facts in mind. For example, it will be of interest to us to know that there are almost 300 parastatals in this country, but if you gave Senators a blank piece of paper this afternoon and asked them to list the parastatals that offer valuable service to Kenyans, very few of them will go above 10 or 20. There are so many institutions that were either rendered moribund or are no longer useful to the kind of services they offer to this country and yet people continue to earn salaries.
I urge that we look at this issue with a broad and open mind. The only thing that I warn against is that a trend is emerging in this Government where in the pursuit of what is considered to be public good, citizens end up suffering. We, as citizens, have continued to cheer them on and say we support what the Government is doing because it either makes our country better, or we have a sadistic view to life.
Madam Temporary Speaker, let me take an example of what happened to the residents of Nkoroi. Their houses were demolished and they were left out in the cold with their families. Imagine if you were to return to your home this afternoon and find that the place you and your family have called home is no longer accessible simply because the Ethics and Anti-Corruption Commission (EACC) and the National Land Commission (NLC) cannot agree on the amount of money they are supposed to pay you before you move out. It will be unfortunate.
I urge our colleagues who sit in the Committee on Justice, Legal Affairs and Human Rights to look into some of these issues. This is emerging to be a very bad public trend where individual human rights are being trampled upon and we are told
to celebrate it because it is in the pursuit of global good. There cannot be global good when private or individual human rights are being trampled upon. Therefore, I urge my colleagues in that particular Committee to address the concerns of those Kenyans.
I watched with a lot of pain and imagined what a father would do if he returned home and he is not able to explain to his 10 year old son why they do not have a place to call home anymore. As this demolition was going on, we could see police officers supervising. How did we sink so low as a country to a point where police officers can now supervise illegalities and demolitions that have not been sanctioned by courts? It is a bad trend which, if we do not speak against it as a Parliament, shall continue. Before we know, it will come closer either to our families or to us as individuals Members of Parliament (MPs).
Hon. Senator, continue with your deliberations. The Senate Majority Leader is peaceful.
Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker, for protecting me from the Senate Majority Leader.
As I conclude, I support the issues that have been raised by our colleague. I hope that when we eventually get a chance to look into this policy, we shall properly give it our thoughts.
With those many remarks, I support. The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Nyamunga) : Hon. Senators, I bring to your attention that there are a lot of interests on this Statement. We also have a lot of urgent business to transact. Kindly take two minutes or so to make a comment.
Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. I will take less than two minutes. I stand to support the Chairperson of the Committee on Labour and Social Welfare for his proactive measures to ensure that the feasibility study is done and that the effects on service delivery are guaranteed.
For the record, public service, as the Senator for Kericho County has said, only employs seven thousand people out of almost close to seven million people that are employed by the private sector. So, as we rationalize, the public service should provide good employment for our people. However, the rationalization should not be misconstrued to block out people from getting decent employment within our Government because we still need the services to be offered.
Madam Temporary Speaker, the real issue of human resource planning should be taken seriously. We make laws in this House, but most of them come with human resource components through authorities or commissions. We need to look at that as well as the bigger picture.
Hon. Senators, I bring to your attention that there are a lot of interests on this Statement. We also have a lot of urgent business to transact. Kindly take two minutes or so to make a comment.
Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. I will take less than two minutes. I stand to support the Chairperson of the Committee on Labour and Social Welfare for his proactive measures to ensure that the feasibility study is done and that the effects on service delivery are guaranteed.
For the record, public service, as the Senator for Kericho County has said, only employs seven thousand people out of almost close to seven million people that are employed by the private sector. So, as we rationalize, the public service should provide good employment for our people. However, the rationalization should not be misconstrued to block out people from getting decent employment within our Government because we still need the services to be offered.
Madam Temporary Speaker, the real issue of human resource planning should be taken seriously. We make laws in this House, but most of them come with human resource components through authorities or commissions. We need to look at that as well as the bigger picture.
of staff. We have others that are doing county functions and others which are doing absolutely nothing yet they continue to receive a budget.
The point is we need to be serious as a nation and discuss the question of wage
bill for the national Government and county governments. This issue is more serious
Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr., you have three minutes.
bill for the national Government and county governments. This issue is more serious
Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr., you have three minutes.
The Government says that it wants to create jobs yet it wants to fire people and it has never rationalized how people are paid. Cabinet Secretaries (CS) and Permanent Secretaries (PS) are paid so well for jobs which I do not understand.
Can we find a method where policy is first discussed at the Executive level and married to the law? We, the legislators, must speak about the law. The Executive must stick to policy. However, when it talks about Huduma Number and rationalizing civil servants and many other things, those are all policies where the national Government is taking over the work of Parliament. Slowly, they will take away everything through these sorts of policies.
Madam Temporary Speaker, we hope that the Committee on Labour and Social Welfare will save the labour workforce of this country. Any Government that cannot employ workers, create employment or pay for essential services is not a Government. We must reinforce human resources for essential services like health. A nurse who works for 18 hours must be paid well. Now that you are paid for sitting, are they paid for standing for 18 hours?
The Government says that it wants to create jobs yet it wants to fire people and it has never rationalized how people are paid. Cabinet Secretaries (CS) and Permanent Secretaries (PS) are paid so well for jobs which I do not understand.
Can we find a method where policy is first discussed at the Executive level and married to the law? We, the legislators, must speak about the law. The Executive must stick to policy. However, when it talks about Huduma Number and rationalizing civil servants and many other things, those are all policies where the national Government is taking over the work of Parliament. Slowly, they will take away everything through these sorts of policies.
Madam Temporary Speaker, we hope that the Committee on Labour and Social Welfare will save the labour workforce of this country. Any Government that cannot employ workers, create employment or pay for essential services is not a Government. We must reinforce human resources for essential services like health. A nurse who works for 18 hours must be paid well. Now that you are paid for sitting, are they paid for standing for 18 hours?
Sen. Ochillo-Ayacko, you have two minutes so that we capture the rest that are remaining.
Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker, for giving me this opportunity to speak. I congratulate my brother, Sen. Sakaja, for proactively coming up with this matter.
Madam Temporary Speaker, issues of performance in the public service are directly related to service delivery which means good performance. Good wages also means good performance. In fact, good terms of employment are also related to good performance. Therefore, if the Government wants to talk about the cost of performance, it should propose that there should be non-performance so that the wage is delivered.
I urge Members of the Senate Committee on Labour and Social Welfare to ensure that the Government is committed to motivating people who are employed so that they perform. The Government should look for more money and they should know where to get it.
The idea of making the work environment bad for employees is an idea that is not in line with the Constitution. Therefore, Members of the Committee should ensure that the Government sticks to its lane, which is to ensure good performance and service delivery. Workers should not be subjugated and made to suffer.
I thank you.
Madam Temporary Speaker, I thank the Chairman of the Committee on Labour and Social Welfare for bringing this Statement. It is unfortunate because Kenyans who work in the civil service are already suffering. They do not have enough pay and houses and health cover. Now this Government wants to have people employed on contracts of three years. Who is going to work for this Government?
People have been working for the Government and retire at 60 years with pension. People have been working for the Government of Kenya, but now it wants to have people employed on contracts of three years. If that is the case, nobody is going to work for this Government. I am afraid that all workers could resign.
Order! Hon. Senators, kindly
Order! Hon. Senators, kindly
Relax!
Hon. Senator, please, continue. Do not communicate directly to them because you are making the matter worse.
Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. Doctors and nurses are now leaving this country en masse because of the suffering. If there are required to be employed on contract basis for three years, nobody will be willing to work in this country. Teachers are already having a lot of problems. Who is going to work for this Government?
We have heard that they want everybody working for the Government of Kenya to be employed on contract for three years. Most of them are above 60 years and that is where the problem is. They should go home. They cannot decide for the people of this country anymore. They are already above 60 years, but want to limit people to be employed for only three years. What sort of a Government is this? Unfortunately, I am part and parcel of this Government---
Sen. (Dr.) Ali, your time is up. Finally, we will have Sen. (Dr.) Zani.
years. That means that people will be trained, but before they can deliver, they will be required to go. So, there will be a lot of disorganization.
It is important to have rationalization of human resources in this country, both at the county and national level, so that labour is linked to productivity. We should have job descriptions and what people do and the outcomes should be clear.
Madam Temporary Speaker, I thank you and support.
years. That means that people will be trained, but before they can deliver, they will be required to go. So, there will be a lot of disorganization.
It is important to have rationalization of human resources in this country, both at the county and national level, so that labour is linked to productivity. We should have job descriptions and what people do and the outcomes should be clear.
Madam Temporary Speaker, I thank you and support.
Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker, for giving me a chance to request for a Statement on Traffic Offences by Foreign Registered Public Service Vehicles (PSVs) on Kenyan Roads. This is specifically for vehicles from Tanzania.
Madam Temporary Speaker, pursuant to Standing Order No.48 (1) , I rise to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on Roads and Transportation concerning traffic offences by foreign registered PSVs on Kenyan roads. In the Statement, the Committee should-
TRAFFIC OFFENCES BY FOREIGN REGISTERED PSVS ON KENYAN ROADS
Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker, for giving me a chance to request for a Statement on Traffic Offences by Foreign Registered Public Service Vehicles (PSVs) on Kenyan Roads. This is specifically for vehicles from Tanzania.
Madam Temporary Speaker, pursuant to Standing Order No.48 (1) , I rise to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on Roads and Transportation concerning traffic offences by foreign registered PSVs on Kenyan roads. In the Statement, the Committee should-
Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. Pursuant to Standing Order 52 (1) , I hereby present to the Senate, the business of the House for the week commencing Tuesday, 2nd July, 2019.
Before I proceed with the Statement, allow me to highlight the Bills that the House has passed within the period of 14th May, 2019 and 20th May, 2019. A total of 13 Bills, were passed, nine of which are at various stages of transmission to the National Assembly for consideration. The said Bills are-
BUSINESS FOR THE WEEK COMMENCING TUESDAY, 2ND JULY, 2019
Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. Pursuant to Standing Order 52 (1) , I hereby present to the Senate, the business of the House for the week commencing Tuesday, 2nd July, 2019.
Before I proceed with the Statement, allow me to highlight the Bills that the House has passed within the period of 14th May, 2019 and 20th May, 2019. A total of 13 Bills, were passed, nine of which are at various stages of transmission to the National Assembly for consideration. The said Bills are-
Sen. Kwamboka, kindly go back to the Bar.
Hon. Senators, as you are aware, the Senate is scheduled to proceed on a 10 day recess beginning at the rise of the House today, and concluding on Monday, 1st July, 2019, pursuant to the Senate Calendar adopted on 14th February,
Madam Temporary Speaker, I will go through the Schedule for reporting by the Committees.
Pursuant to Standing Order No. 51 (1) (b) , Committee Chairpersons shall at least once in every three months, on such day as shall be assigned by the SBC, and at any other time if so required by the Speaker, make a Statement relating to the activities of the Committee.
Standing Order No.51 (2) further provides a framework of the Statement by Chairpersons. Consequently, below is the proposed schedule to facilitate the aforementioned.
No. Standing Committees Date of Reporting
Madam Temporary Speaker, I will go through the Schedule for reporting by the Committees.
Pursuant to Standing Order No. 51 (1) (b) , Committee Chairpersons shall at least once in every three months, on such day as shall be assigned by the SBC, and at any other time if so required by the Speaker, make a Statement relating to the activities of the Committee.
Standing Order No.51 (2) further provides a framework of the Statement by Chairpersons. Consequently, below is the proposed schedule to facilitate the aforementioned.
No. Standing Committees Date of Reporting
Sessional Committees
House Keeping Committees
COMMUNICATION FROM THE CHAIR
VISITING DELEGATION FROM THE PARLIAMENT OF UGANDA
Hon. Senators, I would like to acknowledge the presence, in the Speaker’s Gallery this afternoon, of a visiting delegation from the Legal and Parliamentary Committee of the Parliament of Uganda.
I request each member of the delegation to stand when called out so that they may be acknowledged in the Senate tradition.
They are- Hon. Oboth Jacob Marksons - Head of Delegation Hon. Obua Devis Hamson - Member Hon. Akampulira Prossy - Member Hon. Byanugaba Alex - Member Hon. Mwiru Paul - Member Mr. Max Komakech - Staff Mr. Edward Ngobye - Staff Mr. John Tamale - Staff The delegation is in the country on a benchmarking visit to our Centre for Parliamentary Studies and Training (CPST) to share experiences in relation to the legislation that the Parliament of Uganda is processing; the Institute of Parliamentary Studies Bill, 2019.
On behalf of the Senate and on my own behalf, I welcome them to the Senate. I wish them well for the remainder of their stay.
We will allow two Members to comment.
Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. I join you in welcoming the Members of Parliament from Uganda. I know that they have a unicameral Parliament which is different from the bicameral Parliament that we have in our country. However, they can still learn something from the Senate because they also have some devolved units. I know that they will learn a lot from us because we are their big brother.
I would also like to recognize the Parliament of Uganda because they have a woman for a Speaker, Hon. Rebecca Kadaga. I thank you for the respect that you have for women. Uganda just like Rwanda, have good standing in terms of gender consideration. Welcome.
Madam Temporary Speaker, I welcome the hon. Members from Uganda. I am a board member of the Centre for Parliamentary Studies and Training (CPST) . Therefore, I get really excited when I see Members from other regional parliaments come to interact with us to learn about our parliamentary traditions and how we conduct our affairs.
I extend a warm welcome to them and look forward to interact with them if the opportunity is presented to me. On behalf of my colleagues and all the other board members of the CPST, I say karibuni.
Asante sana, Bi. Spika wa Muda kwa kunipa fursa hii. Nawashukuru waheshimiwa Wabunge wa Bunge la Uganda kwa sababu hao ndio majirani wetu wa karibu sana.
Hon. Senators, I have a Communication to make.
Hon. Senators, I have a Communication to make.
COMMUNICATION FROM THE CHAIR
VISITING DELEGATION FROM ST TERESA'S KABULA BOYS SECONDARY SCHOOL, BUNGOMA COUNTY
Madam Temporary Speaker, I thank you for giving me this opportunity to welcome the boys from Bungoma County and the Members of Parliament (MPs) from Uganda to the Senate today. These are best international practices that need to be encouraged.
It is good to have students who are boys in the House because we have been talking about the girl-child at the expense of our boys. There is need for us to encourage our boys so that by the time they finish school, we will have boys who are ready to take the mantle.
Madam Temporary Speaker, I encourage the boys to work very hard because this nation believes in them. I trust that when they work hard in school, they will be good leaders. I encourage the boys to take the advice given to them by their teachers seriously. I urge them to shun from joining bad company because they need to know that wrong company can pollute morals. We would like to have boys who are morally upright.
I believe that their teachers are doing their best, but there is need to ensure that they listen to their teachers and parents. There is need for a tripartite relationship for them to become good leaders.
Madam Temporary Speaker, I thank you for giving me this opportunity to welcome the boys from Bungoma County and the Members of Parliament (MPs) from Uganda to the Senate today. These are best international practices that need to be encouraged.
It is good to have students who are boys in the House because we have been talking about the girl-child at the expense of our boys. There is need for us to encourage our boys so that by the time they finish school, we will have boys who are ready to take the mantle.
Madam Temporary Speaker, I encourage the boys to work very hard because this nation believes in them. I trust that when they work hard in school, they will be good leaders. I encourage the boys to take the advice given to them by their teachers seriously. I urge them to shun from joining bad company because they need to know that wrong company can pollute morals. We would like to have boys who are morally upright.
I believe that their teachers are doing their best, but there is need to ensure that they listen to their teachers and parents. There is need for a tripartite relationship for them to become good leaders.
Sen. Pareno, what is your point of order?
HUMAN-WILDLIFE CONFLICT AFFECTING COMMUNITIES BORDERING GAME PARKS AND GAME RESERVES
Madam Temporary Speaker, before we conclude on the statements, I would like to get the status of a statement that I had requested on the human wildlife conflict in Kajiado County. The Committee was given 14 days to report to this House. Today is the 14th day and I have not heard from the Committee. The elephants are still killing people. Children are not going to school and the animals are still being killed by the locals. I would like to hear the interventions that the Committee has made, so far.
Is the Chairperson of the Committee on Tourism, Trade and Industrialization in the House?
Hon. Senator, are you aware that we are going on a 10 days recess? This issue is important to be me because when Members raise questions, they should be attended to immediately. These issues are important to the people who bring such statements to the House.
Hon. Senator, are you aware that we are going on a 10 days recess? This issue is important to be me because when Members raise questions, they should be attended to immediately. These issues are important to the people who bring such statements to the House.
Madam Temporary Speaker, I am aware that we are going on recess, but we agreed that we would deal with the statement even while on recess.
Sen. Kibiru, how long do you require to come up with a conclusive reply to the statement?
Madam Temporary Speaker, we will have resolved the issues by the time we come back from recess. We will have a report ready.
Sen. Pareno, are you okay with that?
Madam Temporary Speaker, with due respect to my colleague, the Chairperson of the Committee on Tourism, Trade and Industrialization, I am really disappointed. Many lives have been lost because the elephants have gone on a rampage; killing people and animals, uprooting pipes and boreholes and destroying everything that they come across. This is a serious issue.
The Committee was given 14 days to report back yet we have not heard any interventions to date. I hope that we will resolve this issue soon now that the Chairperson has given an undertaking before the House and since he had talked to me earlier. I hope that the Committee will also visit the ground to see the amount of destruction.
The Committee has two more weeks to report back.
Madam Temporary Speaker, we will deal with this issue in less than two weeks.
Next order.
RESOLUTION BY THE SENATE TO INSTITUTE LEGAL PROCEEDINGS TO CHALLENGE LAWS ENACTED UNPROCEDURALLY IN THE 12TH PARLIAMENT
Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr.
Hon. Senators, I will now put the Question.
NOW THEREFORE THE SENATE-
COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE
IN THE COMMITTEE
THE DATA PROTECTION BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.16 OF 2018)
Thank you, Madam Temporary Chairperson,I beg to move- THAT the Bill be amended by deleting clause 3 and substituting thereof the following new clause – Application 3. (1) This Act shall apply to –
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT the Bill be amended by deleting Clause 4 and substituting thereof the following new clause – Principles of personal data protection
Madam Temporary Speaker, I beg to move- THAT, Clause 6 of the Bill be amended in sub-clause (2) by deleting paragraph (a) . (Question of the amendment proposed) The Temporary Chairperson (
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT, the Bill be amended by deleting Clause 9 and substituting thereof the following New Clause –
Rights of the data subject
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT, Clause 10 of the Bill be amended –
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT, the Bill be amended by deleting clause 11 and substituting therefor the following New Clause –
When not to notify.
11 (1) A data controller or data processor shall not be required to take the steps specified under section 10 if the data controller or the data processor has, prior to collecting the personal data, taken those steps within the past twelve months when collecting the same personal data or personal data of the same kind from that data subject.
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT, the Bill be amended by deleting clause 12 and substituting therefor the following new clause –
Lawfulness of Processing personal data
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move-
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT, the Bill be amended by deleting clause 11 and substituting therefor the following New Clause –
When not to notify.
11 (1) A data controller or data processor shall not be required to take the steps specified under section 10 if the data controller or the data processor has, prior to collecting the personal data, taken those steps within the past twelve months when collecting the same personal data or personal data of the same kind from that data subject.
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT, the Bill be amended by deleting clause 12 and substituting therefor the following new clause –
Lawfulness of Processing personal data
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move-
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT, Clause 16 of the Bill be amended –
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT, Clause 17 of the Bill be amended –
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT, Clause 18 of the Bill be amended –
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT, Clause 19 of the Bill be amended –
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT, the Bill be amended by deleting Clause 20.
The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. Pareno)
: Division will be at the end.
Clause 21
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT, Clause 18 of the Bill be amended –
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT, Clause 19 of the Bill be amended –
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT, the Bill be amended by deleting Clause 20. (Question of the amendment proposed) The Temporary Chairperson (
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT, the Bill be amended by deleting Clause 23.
The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. Pareno)
: Division will be at the end.
A Clause 24
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT, Clause 24 of the Bill be amended–
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT, the Bill be amended by deleting Clause 25.
The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. Pareno)
: Division will be at the end. Clause 26
Division will be at the end. Clause 27
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT, the Bill be amended by deleting Clause 27.
The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. Pareno)
: Division will be at the end.
A Clause 28
A Clause 24
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT, Clause 24 of the Bill be amended–
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT, the Bill be amended by deleting Clause 25. (Question of the amendment proposed) The Temporary Chairperson (
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The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Pareno): Division will be at the end. Clause 31
Division will be at the end. Clause 26 (Question, that Clause 26 be part of the Bill, proposed) Division will be at the end. Clause 27
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT, the Bill be amended by deleting Clause 27. (Question of the amendment proposed) The Temporary Chairperson (
Division will be at the end.
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 38 of the Bill be amended –
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT, the Bill be amended by inserting the following new clauses immediately after Clause 3–
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT, Clause 29 of the Bill be amended –
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The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Pareno): Division will be at the end. New Class 3B
AThe Temporary Chairperson (
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New Clause 3C
Division will be at the end. Clause 31
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT, Clause 31 of the Bill be amended –
New Clause 3E
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 38 of the Bill be amended –
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(Question, that New Clause 3F be now read a Second Time proposed) (Question that, New Clause 3F be part of the Bill, proposed) The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Pareno): Division will be at the end. New Clause 3G
PART IIA—REGISTRATION OF DATA CONTROLLERS AND DATA PROCESSORS
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT the Bill be amended by inserting the following new clause immediately after clause 7 – Con ditions of consent.
7A.
A New Clause 16A
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT the Bill be amended by inserting the following new clause immediately after clause 16 –
Data protection Impact assessment 16A. (1) Where processing of personal data is likely to result in high risk to the rights and freedoms of a data subject due to the nature, scope, context or purpose, a data controller or data processor shall, prior to processing, carry out an impact assessment.
A New Clause 18A
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- Right data portability. THAT the Bill be amended by inserting the following new clause immediately after clause 18 – 18A. (1) A data subject has the right to receive personal data which the data subject has provided to a data controller or data processor, in a structured, commonly used and machine-readable format. (2) A data subject has the right to transmit the data obtained under subsection (1) to another data controller or data processor.
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT the Bill be amended by inserting the following new clause immediately after clause 31 – Safeguards for special Personal data
Division will be at the end. Register of data controllers and data processors. 3D. (1) The Commission shall keep and maintain a register of registered data controllers and data processors.
New Clause 3E
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT the Bill be amended by inserting the following new clauses immediately after clause 3–
Cancellation of variation of the certificate 3E. The Commission, may, on notice, vary terms and conditions of the certificate of registration or cancel the registration where-
(Question that, New Clause 39A be part of the Bill, proposed) The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Pareno): Division will be at the end. Clause 2
A(Question, that New Clause 3F be now read a Second Time proposed) (Question that, New Clause 3F be part of the Bill, proposed) The Temporary Chairperson (
information” means the personal data of a child, biometric data or data revealing a natural person’s race, health status or ethnic origin.
Division will be at the end. New Clause 3G
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT the Bill be amended by inserting the following new clause immediately after clause 7 – Con ditions of consent.
7A.
A New Clause 16A
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT the Bill be amended by inserting the following new clause immediately after clause 16 –
Data protection Impact assessment 16A. (1) Where processing of personal data is likely to result in high risk to the rights and freedoms of a data subject due to the nature, scope, context or purpose, a data controller or data processor shall, prior to processing, carry out an impact assessment.
A New Clause 18A
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- Right data portability. THAT the Bill be amended by inserting the following new clause immediately after clause 18 – 18A. (1) A data subject has the right to receive personal data which the data subject has provided to a data controller or data processor, in a structured, commonly used and machine-readable format. (2) A data subject has the right to transmit the data obtained under subsection (1) to another data controller or data processor.
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT the Bill be amended by inserting the following new clause immediately after clause 31 – Safeguards for special Personal data
Sen. Halake, proceed
Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker, for giving me the opportunity to contribute to this important Motion. It is worrying to think that we have so many stalled projects or what we call white elephants. Last night, I thought about this Motion.
In this country, there are two types of elephants. The living and breathing elephants that we articulated on human-wildlife conflict and the white elephants that dot our country. The latter is a disturbing one.
Madam Temporary Speaker, whereas we are supposed to have completed projects which contribute to Vision 2030 as has been articulated here, we have many county and national Government projects that have become a dead-end and have not added value to the economy or the lives of the people of this country.
From airports, roads, markets, stadiums and pipelines, money has been put and nothing has come out of it. It begs the question whether these projects were designed for corruption or so that some people could just line their pockets. The more we look at these things, the more we are convinced that these projects were never meant to serve Kenyans; they were meant for corruption and siphoning taxpayers’ money.
Madam Temporary Speaker, a few months ago, I asked about the Isiolo International Airport that we were told will open up the north, handle cargo from Ethiopia, Sudan, Somalia and as far as Egypt. However, as we speak today, there is Kshs2.7 billion down the drain. It is a 1.4 kilometre tarmac and cannot handle anything bigger than a 12-seater caravan.
What happened to the Vision 2030 where we were told that the Lamu Port-South Sudan-Ethiopia-Transport (LAPSSET) Corridor Project will be one of the flagship projects that would open up the resort city of Isiolo, the surrounding areas and countries? This is only an example of what I am familiar with. It has been a source of anguish for the people from that place who are told that they have an international airport which is
Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker, for giving me this opportunity. First, allow me, as the Chairperson of the Committee on Education, to welcome the teachers and pupils seated in the Gallery. I would like to tell them that once upon a time, we were seated like them. However, we worked hard in school and most of us were disciplined. That is why we are here today. I wish them the best in school. I ask them to work hard, respect their teachers and be disciplined. I assure them that, one time, they will be in this House.
Division will be at the end. Clause 2
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT clause 2 of the Bill be amended –
information” means the personal data of a child, biometric data or data revealing a natural person’s race, health status or ethnic origin.
PROGRESS REPORTED THE DATA PROTECTION BILL (SENATE BILLS NO. 16 OF 2018)
Once the root cause of the failure to complete these projects is established, I would like to advise that in the good spirit of fighting corruption, the particular people who are responsible, ranging from the contractors---.
There is a bridge where I come from which could have provided an economic linkage between two sub counties in Bomet County. That particular bridge connects Bomet Central and Bomet East. I understand that about Ksh32 million had been spent on that project and it was not completed. I understand that the contractors are still getting money from various projects that are going on in the counties surrounding Bomet. Such contractors who always fail to complete projects must be blackmailed, so that it be known that they are victims of incomplete projects.
The other reason behind incomplete projects is that there is no proper handing over whenever a new governor is getting into office. There are no proper structures for handing over in our county governments. We, therefore, need to come up with a proper framework for handing over, so that when a new governor comes into office, they are able to get a clear picture of the stalled projects and the reasons those projects have stalled. This will ensure that governors complete projects during their tenure, because they will know very well that they will be held responsible for stalled projects.
Some of the stalled projects in our counties are very important. In the county that I come from, there are so many projects that were not completed within the hospitals. In addition, some Early Childhood Development (ECD) schools were not completed, yet the taxpayers’ money had been spent. Therefore, a thorough audit of these projects needs to be done before we rush to completing them, without knowing exactly what stalled them.
Madam Temporary Speaker, I support this particular Motion. We must expand on it and make sure that the stalled projects in our counties are completed.
Thank you.
Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker, for this opportunity to contribute to the Motion by Sen. Kibiru, on the completion of all stalled projects under county governments through budgetary management. I would like to thank the Senator for coming up with such a thoughtful opinion on this.
We have had several problems in relation to Vision 2030 projects. I have asked in this House before what happened to the blueprint of Vision 2030. So much thought had been put into this idea by the former President, His Excellency, Mwai Kibaki and his Government. There was even a Ministry in charge of Vision 2030. So, the issue of projects not being thought out properly does not arise. They were well thought out and resources allocated to those projects. It is the subsequent Governments and implementers who have let us down.
Vision 2030 is still a good thing for this country, and we should continue to make its implementation, monitor it and evaluate the framework in which it was placed. If there are any shortcomings, which for me I would consider more politics than otherwise, they should be looked into and sorted out.
On the issue of pending bills, we have had auctioneers putting up advertisements in newspapers every Monday. They have even come to be known as the pink pages, where auctioneers sell property of business people who have not been paid by county governments. This is something that we need to address as Parliament. If we do not do so, it will not be possible to grow the economy by 6.3 percent or double digit especially the small businesses will be affected.
Next Order.
COMPLETION OF STALLED COUNTY PROJECTS THROUGH BUDGETARY MANAGEMENT
Order, Sen. (Dr.) Zani. I am told that you already spoke on this Motion. Therefore, you cannot speak twice on the same.
ACKNOWLEDGING,
[The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Pareno) in the Chair]
According to our rules, you should have been there to start at the time when we started. It is unfortunate that you will have to lose your minutes. Otherwise, you will have spoken twice on the same matter. Sorry of that.
I will allow Sen. Kwamboka to make her contribution.
Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker, for giving me this opportunity. As I support this Motion, I thank Sen. Kibiru for coming up with it because we have many stalled projects. It is good for the Government to come up with new projects but they must ensure that all stalled projects are completed. If new projects are proposed, there must be finance set aside for them.
When I was a Member of County Assembly (MCA) , during FY 2014/2015, I wanted some works done on Thiong’o Road. Money had been set aside but the road has not been completed up to now because I left the county and joined the Senate. However, I thank Governor Sonko because he has done something about it and the progress is good.
Many things happen when projects are started but somewhere along the journey they are stopped. Thieves take advantage when projects are not finished. There is a section of Ngong Road which was supposed to have been completed but it is not. During rush hour, there is massive traffic jam and air pollution. This should stop.
Madam Temporary Speaker, I support this Motion fully. If we do not ensure that stalled projects are completed, we will not be going anywhere as a country because they impact on the economic growth of this country.
I thank you.
Madam Temporary Speaker, whereas we are supposed to have completed projects which contribute to Vision 2030 as has been articulated here, we have many county and national Government projects that have become a dead-end and have not added value to the economy or the lives of the people of this country.
From airports, roads, markets, stadiums and pipelines, money has been put and nothing has come out of it. It begs the question whether these projects were designed for corruption or so that some people could just line their pockets. The more we look at these things, the more we are convinced that these projects were never meant to serve Kenyans; they were meant for corruption and siphoning taxpayers’ money.
Madam Temporary Speaker, a few months ago, I asked about the Isiolo International Airport that we were told will open up the north, handle cargo from Ethiopia, Sudan, Somalia and as far as Egypt. However, as we speak today, there is Kshs2.7 billion down the drain. It is a 1.4 kilometre tarmac and cannot handle anything bigger than a 12-seater caravan.
What happened to the Vision 2030 where we were told that the Lamu Port-South Sudan-Ethiopia-Transport (LAPSSET) Corridor Project will be one of the flagship projects that would open up the resort city of Isiolo, the surrounding areas and countries? This is only an example of what I am familiar with. It has been a source of anguish for the people from that place who are told that they have an international airport which is
captures the spirit and seeks to solve some of the problems that affect project implementation in the counties.
If you look at the first two recommendations, the Motion seeks to ensure that the CIDPs are aligned to our national vision. We have one nation with quite a number of governments. In our Constitution and the manner in which our nation is structured, we need to move uniformly and in a structured way. We do not want to have a nation where part of it moves east, another part moves west, another part moves south and yet another part moves northwards.
If we talk about access to universal health, we need to move in a structured way and in a manner that all counties benefit. If we talk about food security, it is important that all parts of the country move at the same speed and in one direction, so that ultimately we achieve what is called equal development and progress in all fronts that are prioritised in the Vision 2030 and other programmes like the Big Four Agenda that have been put forward.
In order to solve the issue of hackneyed or unstructured development, it is important to have some harmonisation. The primary document that would advise how we align our programmes should be the Vision 2030. Other county development programmes should be individual programmes for the counties, so that all of them fit into that.
Secondly, it is important that all projects that were commenced are completed and made available for public use. Having a lot of money and putting it into projects that do not serve the public after passage of a long time gets us into trouble. The kind of trouble is what is called value for money.
If you go to my County of Migori, there is one stadium that Migori County government has been pumping money into year in, year out. Pumping of money commenced with the advent of devolution. This is the seventh year and not a single football match, athletics activity or sporting event has been held in the stadium. That is Migori Stadium in Suna West Constituency which we should take pride in as the people of Migori County because that is our only stadium. The whole project has stalled. Money has been used but it has not been put to any form of use to date.
There are several Technical Vocational Education and Training (TVET) institutions which should be under the national Government. There is one in Nyatike Constituency, one in Suna East Constituency, one in Suna West Constituency, one in Uriri Constituency, one in Awendo Constituency and another one in Rongo Constituency. The way the TVETs are structured, there ought to be partnership between the national and county governments with a clear objective that technical and vocational training of the youth should be available to residents of a county like Migori.
This is the seventh year and we have been bragging that devolution is working. Not a single child has benefited from those projects. They are incomplete and there is no indication when they will be completed. There is no further indication when people may be recruited to make use of those facilities that have been abandoned. Some of them provide shelter for bats, birds and other wild beings, which is not what they were intended for.
It is sad that in the seventh year of devolution, we still have projects that we have sunk millions and millions into but they provide homes for animals that do not need shelter. In the Bible, it is written that God takes care of them. We do not have to build such shelters for them.
Order Sen. (Dr.) Langat. May be, we should start by the Speaker welcoming them.
Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker, for this opportunity to support this Motion. From the outset, I congratulate Sen. Kibiru, the Senator for the great people of Kirinyaga County, and also the Chairperson of the Committee on Tourism, Trade and Industrialization for this well thought out Motion. This Motion will assist all our counties in the completion of all stalled projects through budgetary management.
Madam Temporary Speaker, this Motion comes at a time when, at some point, I was discussing with some Members on the possibility of looking at the Public Finance Management (PFM) Act; the regulations on how to ensure that when a project is being started, especially by the county governments, the law should obligate them to complete such projects. This Motion is informed by the fact that some of the Governors we are having are either serving their first term and, therefore, they think it is politically incorrect or not economically justifiable to finish or continue with the projects that their predecessors started.
COMMUNICATION FROM THE CHAIR
VISITING DELEGATION FROM FR. KUHN ACADEMY SCHOOL, NANDI COUNTY
Thank you very much, Madam Temporary Speaker. I know that Sen. Cherargei is the Senator of the respective county, but thank you for allowing me to welcome them on your behalf.
Madam Temporary Speaker, concerning the stalled projects in our counties, I want to say categorically that I support this very important Motion by Sen. Kibiru.
First, I would like to encourage that thorough financial audit be done before anything is done on the stalled projects in various counties in this country. This is to make it possible to understand what led to the stalling of these particular projects. Where I come from, there are so many stalled projects including bridges. However, when you ask for the reason behind the stalled projects, you are likely to be told that money had been paid and completed. Therefore, it might not be prudent to just look for money elsewhere to complete the stalled projects.
It is my advice that a thorough audit be first of all done, so that the root cause of the stalled projects may be established. We have heard of interesting stories. In some counties, whenever some governors start some projects, they are juxtaposed with the projects that they are running in their homes. More often than not, you will find the private projects of the executives being completed on time, when the county projects have not been completed.
The Government should commence a thorough audit to establish the reason behind these particular stalled projects. This will make us understand if there was a shortage of money within the Government or whether the contractors failed to complete the projects because of carelessness or corruption.
May God hear your prayers.
Amen, Madam Temporary Speaker. Sen. Kibiru should look at the stalled projects in terms of pending bills and procurement up to the point where the services are delivered. Some of those projects have stalled because of cases that are in court. There are cases where the contractor has not been paid hence he just wants to frustrate that project. It is good that Sen. Kibiru is sitting with Sen. (Eng.) Maina, who has a wealth of experience in dealing with mega projects in this country. I hope that he will assist him develop some of the ideas that we are sharing here.
We have never been told the role of Transition Authority (TA) . What else did they do apart from handling the assets and liabilities? Were there projects that were being handled by municipalities? If they were there, what happened to those projects? Was there transition in terms of pending bills? Those are some of the things that Sen. Kibiru should have captured in his Motion. In fact, it is under the watch of the TA that most counties lost their assets. We had a new tractor in my County but we later found it without wheels in the middle of a tea farm. Therefore, we need to look at that. Counties must look at the viable projects.
I wish Sen. (Dr.) Kabaka well now that he is salivating for the governor’s seat in Machakos at the end of his term. I challenge the governors to look at the viable projects that are there. They should not just do projects for the sake of it. According to the Auditor-General’s Report, out of 60 Early Childhood Development (ECD) centres in Nandi County, 39 are not complete. In fact, the Auditor-General’s Report states that Nandi County Government paid Kshs97 million for the Governor’s office which is 94 per cent of the total cost yet the contractor left the site.
We are made to understand that there were differences between the contractor and the County Government because they wanted a variation of Kshs21 million. That is on record and it is captured in the Auditor -General’s Report. This is sad! We have a problem with the new governors. John Githongo said that the new governors feel that it is their time to eat. There is a saying in Kikuyu that says that even if your mother is too old, she is still your mother. That is what our governors are doing. They are saying: ‘let us do some variation’ and that is what has affected most of the Government projects.
In Uasin Gishu County, Kshs8.3 million was paid for a bridge but no work has been done on that bridge. Over 50 per cent of the money has been paid for the construction of Kamariny Stadium but the work is incomplete. Instead, you will find the cows grazing in the field. There are many issues on these projects. In Nandi County, the
former Governor was constructing the stadium but the new Governor does not want to complete it. He has started building something that looks like a kiosk next to the old stadium. That makes you wonder the rationale for that. Why should you build a different stadium yet there is a stadium that just needs completion? That is total wastage of resources.
We must look for legal amendments to deal with the stalled projects. We must obligate the county governments. If Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr. becomes the Governor of Makueni County, he does not have to walk away from the projects started by Gov. (Prof.) Kibwana. The law must obligate him to complete those projects and he should not do it for his or Gov. (Prof.) Kibwana’s benefit but for the benefit of the people of Makueni. This Motion has our support.
We welcome the President and his Deputy to Rivatex in Eldoret tomorrow. We want to move forward and achieve the Big Four Agenda.
Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker.
Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. I rise to support this Motion. This matter bothered us in the last Assembly and that is why we came up with the Assumption of the Office of Governor Act, 2019. This Senate had envisioned this problem and we must address it.
There are a few terms in Kenya which are the euphemism of corruption. The first one is budget deficit which is the euphemism for corruption in the counties and the national Government. The second one is stalled projects. The third one is pending bills. The one identified by Sen. Kibiru is another euphemism for corruption and we also have own source revenue.
On the legal basis, I may not agree with the recommendations given by Sen. Kibiru. This is because every planned project has a budget. Therefore, it is not possible to have a stalled project. In law and in financial terms, a stalled project presupposes that you cannot finance it any further. However, the correct position is that there is no project that any county or national government can start without a budget.
How did Machakos County, where Sen. Kabaka was the attorney general, end up with a pending debt of Kshs4 billion and above? How did Nairobi City County have a pending bill of Kshs50 billion? How did that happen? The previous governors who suspected that they were going to lose elections engaged in shady contracts. Can we have a legal provision that will stop capital projects at some point before elections? Before the elections, the counties pending bills were Kshs13 billion but they got to around Kshs70 billion or Kshs80 billion and counting after the elections. What does that tell you? It tells you that the governors who suspected that they would lose their seats went and engaged in shady contracts. We must find a method of dealing with this.
The law under the Public Finance Management (PFM) Act requires a new governor to first pay the debt. If God blesses any of us to become a governor, you will be faced with a debt of Kshs5 billion yet you are getting Kshs8 billion. You will end up fighting with contractors as Governor Ngilu is fighting contractors who have done legitimate work.
Madam Temporary Speaker, people have lost their houses and families because of pending debts or stalled projects yet for some strange reason, these projects have contracts, completion periods and have been signed. The reason I do not agree with some of the recommendations is because there is no project which is assigned to a governor. If
Order, Sen. (Dr.) Zani. I am told that you already spoke on this Motion. Therefore, you cannot speak twice on the same.
So, we are doing big projects which are called headquarter projects in counties. These ambiguous things they put in programmes that nobody understands and then they pilfer the money, and nobody knows. So, the recommendation by
“Ensure that all the County Integrated Development Plans (CIDP’s) and Annual Development Plans (ADPs) are aligned to Vision 2030 in terms of monitoring, and evaluation”, there must be a fund in every project for monitoring and evaluation at the national level.
Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker, for giving me this opportunity. As I support this Motion, I thank Sen. Kibiru for coming up with it because we have many stalled projects. It is good for the Government to come up with new projects but they must ensure that all stalled projects are completed. If new projects are proposed, there must be finance set aside for them.
When I was a Member of County Assembly (MCA) , during FY 2014/2015, I wanted some works done on Thiong’o Road. Money had been set aside but the road has not been completed up to now because I left the county and joined the Senate. However, I thank Governor Sonko because he has done something about it and the progress is good.
Many things happen when projects are started but somewhere along the journey they are stopped. Thieves take advantage when projects are not finished. There is a section of Ngong Road which was supposed to have been completed but it is not. During rush hour, there is massive traffic jam and air pollution. This should stop.
Madam Temporary Speaker, I support this Motion fully. If we do not ensure that stalled projects are completed, we will not be going anywhere as a country because they impact on the economic growth of this country.
I thank you.
Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker, for the opportunity to make remarks regarding this Motion. This Motion is appropriate and it
Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker, for this opportunity to air my views concerning this very important Motion.
I commend Sen. Kibiru for coming up with such a timely Motion because all nations of the world are talking about their vision for the future. Kenya is not an exceptional. Kenya is looking at Vision 2030, and when you are talking of Vision 2030, you are looking at a situation where at the end of the day we want Kenya to become an industrialized nation, and improve the middle-income economy. This would translate to a higher per capita income for citizens.
Madam Temporary Speaker, the annual budget is funded from Kenyans through taxes. Therefore, there is a need for projects to have a positive net effect on Kenyans with regard to Article 43 of the Constitution.
Madam Temporary Speaker, Article 43 of the Constitution speaks about economic and social rights. When you are talking about economic and social rights, and look at nations of the world, they are talking about sustainable development goals. These are enshrined in Article 43 of our Constitution. When we look at Article 43, it talks about the highest attainable standards of health for the citizens, accessible and adequate housing free from hunger, social security and education.
Madam Temporary Speaker, Article 43 (2) talks about issues of emergency in terms of medical treatment. As we speak now, there are some people who find themselves in emergencies but do not receive medical treatment. This is uncalled for and not constitutionally right. There are instances where one hears that mothers have given birth by the roadside and have been helped and patients die when waiting for medical attention. This is unconstitutional and should never arise.
The Constitution also speaks about social security for persons who are not able to defend themselves. In this Senate, quite a number of Senators have talked about insecurity. Insecurity should not be condoned. If we are going to walk the talk about defending Article 43(2) of our Constitution, we must ensure that everyone has security. This includes the vulnerable and helpless. It is a constitutional requirement that if they are not able to provide security for themselves and their dependants, the State should come in.
There are some counties where one finds that in some villages there are no police posts. If someone is attacked, thugs will even take their time cooking and laughing in that house and search everywhere to see whether they will get any valuables. In some situations they even pack all the belongings in a lorry and go. This should never occur in a country that seeks to defend the Constitution; that says that even people who are vulnerable should be given protection by the State.
There should never be incomplete projects. This is because in every county there is need for an assessment to know what the needs of the county are. If security is an issue, then it should be in the budget so that a police post is erected and security measures are even taken for the purpose of mwananchi.
Madam Temporary Speaker, when we are talking of the Big Four Agenda, they are what I am articulating about now because it is enshrined in Article 43 of our Constitution. When it comes to counties, the development agenda should be aligned to the Big Four Agenda and the Constitution. A county should not just come up and decided they are going to do this and that.
There is need for a needs assessment to find out what the needs of the county are. Even after doing the needs assessment, there is need for public participation for people to say what they need in their county; lack of security, insufficient schools, hospitals and all that. Developments done in the counties should serve the common man.
Madam Temporary Speaker, there is need for indicators of development in every county because each county is given a budget for development. There is need for indicators of development in every county. If you go to any of the 47 counties, there is need to see a physical indicator of development. It should not just be paper work where many people say that what they spent in a certain year, for example, Kshs800 million or Kshs100 million. What are these things that are being done? There is need for the Senate to oversight and that is our work.
We need to be facilitated so that we are able to go to the counties and confirm with the paperwork and the physical development that money has been used in such a way that the mwananchi will benefit from devolution.
There is need even for development projects to be measurable. Every year I believe that a county has projects that are intended to be completed. Those projects must be measureable so that they are completed within that financial year. If not, someone must be held accountable.
Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker, for this opportunity to support this Motion. From the outset, I congratulate Sen. Kibiru, the Senator for the great people of Kirinyaga County, and also the Chairperson of the Committee on Tourism, Trade and Industrialization for this well thought out Motion. This Motion will assist all our counties in the completion of all stalled projects through budgetary management.
Madam Temporary Speaker, this Motion comes at a time when, at some point, I was discussing with some Members on the possibility of looking at the Public Finance Management (PFM) Act; the regulations on how to ensure that when a project is being started, especially by the county governments, the law should obligate them to complete such projects. This Motion is informed by the fact that some of the Governors we are having are either serving their first term and, therefore, they think it is politically incorrect or not economically justifiable to finish or continue with the projects that their predecessors started.
Kindly, try to conclude. We still have a number of people who want to contribute to this.
Government projects, which is very good. We want everybody to show us what they have sown, because what you reap is what you have sown.
My second point on the issue of stalled projects, is the pending bills. You will find that some contractors are on site, but because they have raised a certificate, they were not given mobilization resources after being given the letter of award of that contract. They, therefore, go ahead and leave that project.
There are so many roads in this country that some companies were given to construct. For example, if you go to Makueni, Machakos, across the 47 counties and even in your County, Kajiado, the roads there have stalled. I have heard Sen. Ochillo-Ayacko telling us that in your next life, you will be ‘Madam Governor;’ and we wish you well for that. The aspect we are pointing out to is that, in a way, some of these people are frustrating---
May God hear your prayers.
Amen, Madam Temporary Speaker. Sen. Kibiru should look at the stalled projects in terms of pending bills and procurement up to the point where the services are delivered. Some of those projects have stalled because of cases that are in court. There are cases where the contractor has not been paid hence he just wants to frustrate that project. It is good that Sen. Kibiru is sitting with Sen. (Eng.) Maina, who has a wealth of experience in dealing with mega projects in this country. I hope that he will assist him develop some of the ideas that we are sharing here.
We have never been told the role of Transition Authority (TA) . What else did they do apart from handling the assets and liabilities? Were there projects that were being handled by municipalities? If they were there, what happened to those projects? Was there transition in terms of pending bills? Those are some of the things that Sen. Kibiru should have captured in his Motion. In fact, it is under the watch of the TA that most counties lost their assets. We had a new tractor in my County but we later found it without wheels in the middle of a tea farm. Therefore, we need to look at that. Counties must look at the viable projects.
I wish Sen. (Dr.) Kabaka well now that he is salivating for the governor’s seat in Machakos at the end of his term. I challenge the governors to look at the viable projects that are there. They should not just do projects for the sake of it. According to the Auditor-General’s Report, out of 60 Early Childhood Development (ECD) centres in Nandi County, 39 are not complete. In fact, the Auditor-General’s Report states that Nandi County Government paid Kshs97 million for the Governor’s office which is 94 per cent of the total cost yet the contractor left the site.
We are made to understand that there were differences between the contractor and the County Government because they wanted a variation of Kshs21 million. That is on record and it is captured in the Auditor -General’s Report. This is sad! We have a problem with the new governors. John Githongo said that the new governors feel that it is their time to eat. There is a saying in Kikuyu that says that even if your mother is too old, she is still your mother. That is what our governors are doing. They are saying: ‘let us do some variation’ and that is what has affected most of the Government projects.
In Uasin Gishu County, Kshs8.3 million was paid for a bridge but no work has been done on that bridge. Over 50 per cent of the money has been paid for the construction of Kamariny Stadium but the work is incomplete. Instead, you will find the cows grazing in the field. There are many issues on these projects. In Nandi County, the
former Governor was constructing the stadium but the new Governor does not want to complete it. He has started building something that looks like a kiosk next to the old stadium. That makes you wonder the rationale for that. Why should you build a different stadium yet there is a stadium that just needs completion? That is total wastage of resources.
We must look for legal amendments to deal with the stalled projects. We must obligate the county governments. If Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr. becomes the Governor of Makueni County, he does not have to walk away from the projects started by Gov. (Prof.) Kibwana. The law must obligate him to complete those projects and he should not do it for his or Gov. (Prof.) Kibwana’s benefit but for the benefit of the people of Makueni. This Motion has our support.
We welcome the President and his Deputy to Rivatex in Eldoret tomorrow. We want to move forward and achieve the Big Four Agenda.
Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker.
Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. I rise to support this Motion. This matter bothered us in the last Assembly and that is why we came up with the Assumption of the Office of Governor Act, 2019. This Senate had envisioned this problem and we must address it.
There are a few terms in Kenya which are the euphemism of corruption. The first one is budget deficit which is the euphemism for corruption in the counties and the national Government. The second one is stalled projects. The third one is pending bills. The one identified by Sen. Kibiru is another euphemism for corruption and we also have own source revenue.
On the legal basis, I may not agree with the recommendations given by Sen. Kibiru. This is because every planned project has a budget. Therefore, it is not possible to have a stalled project. In law and in financial terms, a stalled project presupposes that you cannot finance it any further. However, the correct position is that there is no project that any county or national government can start without a budget.
How did Machakos County, where Sen. Kabaka was the attorney general, end up with a pending debt of Kshs4 billion and above? How did Nairobi City County have a pending bill of Kshs50 billion? How did that happen? The previous governors who suspected that they were going to lose elections engaged in shady contracts. Can we have a legal provision that will stop capital projects at some point before elections? Before the elections, the counties pending bills were Kshs13 billion but they got to around Kshs70 billion or Kshs80 billion and counting after the elections. What does that tell you? It tells you that the governors who suspected that they would lose their seats went and engaged in shady contracts. We must find a method of dealing with this.
The law under the Public Finance Management (PFM) Act requires a new governor to first pay the debt. If God blesses any of us to become a governor, you will be faced with a debt of Kshs5 billion yet you are getting Kshs8 billion. You will end up fighting with contractors as Governor Ngilu is fighting contractors who have done legitimate work.
Madam Temporary Speaker, people have lost their houses and families because of pending debts or stalled projects yet for some strange reason, these projects have contracts, completion periods and have been signed. The reason I do not agree with some of the recommendations is because there is no project which is assigned to a governor. If
Are you on a point of order? You are next in line to speak.
So, we are doing big projects which are called headquarter projects in counties. These ambiguous things they put in programmes that nobody understands and then they pilfer the money, and nobody knows. So, the recommendation by
“Ensure that all the County Integrated Development Plans (CIDP’s) and Annual Development Plans (ADPs) are aligned to Vision 2030 in terms of monitoring, and evaluation”, there must be a fund in every project for monitoring and evaluation at the national level.
Madam Temporary Speaker, please, start counting my time now.
Sen. (Dr.) Musuruve
Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker, for this opportunity to air my views concerning this very important Motion.
I commend Sen. Kibiru for coming up with such a timely Motion because all nations of the world are talking about their vision for the future. Kenya is not an exceptional. Kenya is looking at Vision 2030, and when you are talking of Vision 2030, you are looking at a situation where at the end of the day we want Kenya to become an industrialized nation, and improve the middle-income economy. This would translate to a higher per capita income for citizens.
Madam Temporary Speaker, the annual budget is funded from Kenyans through taxes. Therefore, there is a need for projects to have a positive net effect on Kenyans with regard to Article 43 of the Constitution.
Madam Temporary Speaker, Article 43 of the Constitution speaks about economic and social rights. When you are talking about economic and social rights, and look at nations of the world, they are talking about sustainable development goals. These are enshrined in Article 43 of our Constitution. When we look at Article 43, it talks about the highest attainable standards of health for the citizens, accessible and adequate housing free from hunger, social security and education.
Madam Temporary Speaker, Article 43 (2) talks about issues of emergency in terms of medical treatment. As we speak now, there are some people who find themselves in emergencies but do not receive medical treatment. This is uncalled for and not constitutionally right. There are instances where one hears that mothers have given birth by the roadside and have been helped and patients die when waiting for medical attention. This is unconstitutional and should never arise.
The Constitution also speaks about social security for persons who are not able to defend themselves. In this Senate, quite a number of Senators have talked about insecurity. Insecurity should not be condoned. If we are going to walk the talk about defending Article 43(2) of our Constitution, we must ensure that everyone has security. This includes the vulnerable and helpless. It is a constitutional requirement that if they are not able to provide security for themselves and their dependants, the State should come in.
There are some counties where one finds that in some villages there are no police posts. If someone is attacked, thugs will even take their time cooking and laughing in that house and search everywhere to see whether they will get any valuables. In some situations they even pack all the belongings in a lorry and go. This should never occur in a country that seeks to defend the Constitution; that says that even people who are vulnerable should be given protection by the State.
There should never be incomplete projects. This is because in every county there is need for an assessment to know what the needs of the county are. If security is an issue, then it should be in the budget so that a police post is erected and security measures are even taken for the purpose of mwananchi.
Madam Temporary Speaker, when we are talking of the Big Four Agenda, they are what I am articulating about now because it is enshrined in Article 43 of our Constitution. When it comes to counties, the development agenda should be aligned to the Big Four Agenda and the Constitution. A county should not just come up and decided they are going to do this and that.
There is need for a needs assessment to find out what the needs of the county are. Even after doing the needs assessment, there is need for public participation for people to say what they need in their county; lack of security, insufficient schools, hospitals and all that. Developments done in the counties should serve the common man.
Madam Temporary Speaker, there is need for indicators of development in every county because each county is given a budget for development. There is need for indicators of development in every county. If you go to any of the 47 counties, there is need to see a physical indicator of development. It should not just be paper work where many people say that what they spent in a certain year, for example, Kshs800 million or Kshs100 million. What are these things that are being done? There is need for the Senate to oversight and that is our work.
We need to be facilitated so that we are able to go to the counties and confirm with the paperwork and the physical development that money has been used in such a way that the mwananchi will benefit from devolution.
There is need even for development projects to be measurable. Every year I believe that a county has projects that are intended to be completed. Those projects must be measureable so that they are completed within that financial year. If not, someone must be held accountable.
Madam Temporary Speaker, in some counties one will find a road or hospital was being constructed and was not completed yet the contractors have already been paid. I want to suggest on the Floor of this House that contractors’ payment should be staggered. There is no reason of paying a contractor before we see deliverables.
In some counties, contractors are paid money even before the project starts. Therefore, by the time the project starts you find some contractors will end up using the money for unintended purposes. That should not arise because we are talking of public funds and money that belongs to mwananchi. That money is not being utilised in such a way that the common man cans say: “Yes, I can say in my county that if I am sick I will go to this hospital and will get treatment.”
There is no reason why someone should die while waiting for medical attention. You will find in some counties they do not even have Early Childhood Development centres (ECDs). Some schools do not have water. It defeats the purpose of devolution. Money should be set aside, but it must deliver for the purposes of devolution.
You are still on. You have not been stopped.
Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. President Moi asked: “Wale watu ambao hawakuchagua huyu mtu wataenda wapi?” That question still remains.
Sen. (Eng.) Maina, you need to translate what you have just said in the language that you started with.
Thank you, for the opportunity. I support.
over-run. That is the reality. Therefore, I support the Motion as it stands. The lawyers should advise the Mover of the Motion so that it becomes law which has some teeth.
Madam Temporary Speaker, some of us care about Wanjiku and support devolution from our hearts, for the purpose of service to Wanjiku. That was the purpose of devolution; it was not for the governors to put up mansions and get away with it or put money in their daughters account. When a person becomes a governor, he or she should not save money in Cayman Islands. That was not the intention.
Therefore, I urge county governments, from the governor and their Members of County Assembly (MCAs) to visit the miserable people especially in various clinics in their counties. They should also visit the miserable children that are learning under pathetic situations. They should remember that there is a God in heaven and try to rethink of doing some good as intended in the Constitution.
Madam Temporary Speaker, I support this Motion on completion of stalled projects. If this House had a real oversight role, it would establish a unit to find out why projects stall and order county governments to ensure that they are completed.
Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. I rise to support this timely Motion by my good friend, Senator Kirinyaga.
The Motion is by Sen. Kibiru. Sen. Kirinyaga only rose up to support it.
On a point of order, Madam Temporary Speaker.
What is your point of order?
Madam Temporary Speaker, Sen. Wario is quite in order. Sen. Kirinyaga is my name. It is the original name of Mt. Kenya. I am proud of it. This gentleman comes from a small enclave called Kirinyaga.
You have 10 minutes.
Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. I support this timely Motion. Why does a project stall? It is either because the money that was allocated to it is not enough or the projects were started when they had not been budgeted for or from the onset, the projects were meant for nothing else, but to be a conduit to get money out of the kitty.
I ask my colleague, Sen. Kibiru, it is not enough to say that we pay for all the projects. There is need for this Motion, when it becomes a Bill, to look further and ask the cause of the stalling projects. That is even more important. Stalling of projects in this country is a characteristic everywhere. To this day, there are some Nyayo projects that have never been completed. You will find a district headquarters which was started 20 years ago, but it has never been completed.
There is another reason today as to why projects stall. Sometimes projects are commissioned politically and there is no money. This is done by governors and even the national Government. Therefore, this Motion needs to somehow state that it is a crime to start a project with some deliberate move or another purpose, and then it stalls. This should not be allowed.
Madam Temporary Speaker, Members in this House can keep talking about county governments and that they should do this or that. Nobody follows the law deliberately or willingly. That is why when God created the earth, he saw that man will not follow the law and he gave 10 commandments and serious consequences in case anyone disobeyed.
It is not enough for this House to keep shouting that we want this and that in the counties. Let me repeat what I said in the morning; it is high time we told Kenyans why we are sometimes unable to enforce things in counties. Of course, there is the question of legislation. Besides that, it is the capacity that we have. We have no capacity and this
House being deliberately denied to go and do oversight that the Constitution has put on this House.
I think a referendum is coming from what I read around. Nobody needs to think deeply. It is not algebra but simple arithmetic. It seems to be coming. When the referendum comes, this House must position itself. It should create the mood in this country with wananchi where they will support this House to be the real Upper House with powers to oversight, save this country’s money and ensure that the money that goes to the counties is put into useful expenditure.
Projects stall because it is not very interesting or appealing to county governments to buy drugs. The reason is that we buy drugs from the Kenya Medical Supplies Authority (KEMSA). I am not very sure, but I do not think there are systems there where you will decide to buy drugs for Kshs10 million but the invoice is for Kshs100 million.
Madam Temporary Speaker, when you say that you are building a road from point A to B, there is all manner of games that go on. Let us not pretend that we do not know this. Six people are called. In fact, they are individuals who have formed companies and they are told to present documents and they are called for the tenders. The story then begins. The money is even paid upfront and once it is paid, there is no motivation to keep on pushing the project. This is because in the first place, the project may not have been necessary.
The stalling of projects also happens because of what the Constitution envisaged is not happening. Members of County Assemblies (MCAs) were supposed to oversight controlling the governor and his executive. Unfortunately, today, they just sit down and all is quiet. This is the truth that is happening.
In the first term, there used to be a lot of squabbling between MCAs and governors. Today, it is very quiet. The reason is that during the sit down, each of them will get Kshs30 million for building roads in their area. You will bring the contractor and supervise him but whatever you do, just take care of the headquarters. That is the reality. It is all quiet and the only person suffering is Wanjiku. There is no road and money is being paid. Some of the things that are happening are actually criminal.
As long we continue turning a blind eye to the reality in this country, let us not think that devolution will succeed this way. Devolution is a good idea and was there in the 1960s and 1970s. In fact, in my primary school, books and other equipment were being delivered by a big lorry written District Education Board (DEB). County councils were building and maintaining roads and they used to do it effectively. However, the laws then were clearer than today. Devolution will not succeed the way we are, unless in the few counties where the governor has a moral heart for his people. That is just a minority and that is the reality.
How can anybody tell me that you go to 90 per cent of the clinics in this country and you cannot get malaria drugs? Wananchi cannot do simple blood tests. They are given sheets of paper to go to some private places. We better re-think devolution. What is it doing to education? They say that they are dealing with Early Childhood Development centres (ECDs). What ECDs are they dealing with when the schools in most areas are in deplorable situations? I saw somewhere children taking their lessons outside. Surely, you do not need even Kshs5 million to put up five basic classrooms for the children.
Madam Temporary Speaker, the people who are being entrusted with devolution in this country are not the people the Constitution envisaged. The stalled projects will remain because they serve the purpose of the planners of these projects.
The other one is politics. Governors will come and some of them deliberately want to stop the--- When we were inaugurating the new Constitution, President Moi asked: “You say you will elect a Governor, but what will happen to those who did not vote for him?”
You are still on. You have not been stopped.
Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. President Moi asked: “Wale watu ambao hawakuchagua huyu mtu wataenda wapi?” That question still remains.
Sen. (Eng.) Maina, you need to translate what you have just said in the language that you started with.
Madam Temporary Speaker, he asked where the people who did not elect a governor will go to.
In a county where a governor was elected by about half or less the people, and there could have been rigging, will only have a heart for the people who elected him. So, what will happen to the rest? This is the key question that President Moi asked when he opposed this Constitution. I want to be on record that I was with him at heart, but I did not have the courage to stand up and argue against the Constitution depending on where I came from.
However, I can say today that I was with him at heart. Therefore, let us relook the referendum that is coming. For example, education and health should not be devolved; they should be functions of the national Government. Governors should not say that security should be devolved so that every one of them can have their small garrison. This is a pathetic situation.
The issue of stalled projects is the norm even in the national Government because of the corruption that we are talking about. Bad planning is corruption. Starting a project for the purpose of getting money out of the National Treasury is wrong and it is corruption. It is also wrong for a governor to refuse to pay for a project that was started by his predecessor. It is corruption too.
Madam Temporary Speaker, the Bill that we will come up with should tie and link all these kinds of bad practices on the laws that govern crimes, for example, corruption. This is because the intention is obvious.
The issue of cost over-run comes up because people are looking for something to eat. Therefore, we should know that when we do not pay for the projects, we get a cost
Madam Temporary Speaker, the Auditor-General’s Report indicates that this country has lost a lot of money and that has happened by design and not by fluke. It is the governors who do not have the human heart who are stealing left right and centre. All those governors should be behind the bars.
Good research. I now call upon the Mover to reply.
Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. I thank all the Senators who have supported this Motion. This Motion has attracted 16 Senators and that includes Sen. Olekina.
A number of issues have come up and we have established that we need to do an audit and we should have timelines for those audits. We have also agreed that we should identify the stalled projects and we will be working on that as we move forward.
A number of Senators have recommended issues of feasibility studies, the need for timelines so as to avoid having new projects just before elections. There is recommendation that we amend the PFM Act and the County Governments Act for us to have value for money. Most importantly, we have to make the people who put our money in such projects accountable.
In the interest of time and because of the overwhelming support that the Motion has got, we will move it up and see if we can come up with a Bill.
I wish to ask the Senators present to support this Motion by voting for it. With those few remarks, I beg to reply.
Hon. Senators, in view of our programme for the day and noting that the House is going on a short recess, I will, therefore, defer Orders No. 11 to 18. We will proceed with the next Order.
What is your point of order?
Madam Temporary Speaker, Sen. Wario is quite in order. Sen. Kirinyaga is my name. It is the original name of Mt. Kenya. I am proud of it. This gentleman comes from a small enclave called Kirinyaga.
Madam Temporary Speaker, I thought Sen. Kirinyaga is Sen. Charles Kibiru, who is also the Chairperson of the Committee on Tourism, Trade and Industrialization. The Temporary Speaker (
Sen. Kibiru is the Senator for Kirinyaga County.
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are seeing the vise versa. People living around the project are impoverished and cannot access the river to fetch water for their livestock and for domestic use.
Madam Temporary Speaker, when such a mega project is brought to an area, we need to find out how people living nearby will benefit from it. However, the people of Tana River and Kilifi counties are living in a pathetic situation. It is good for the whole country to go and see how that project has impoverished the people who live there. The project has totally stalled and there is nothing going on.
There are many stalled projects in the vast Tana River County, some of which are funded by the national Government while others are funded by the County Government. There are also some projects which were initially started using the Constituencies Development Fund (CDF) but they have not been completed up to date. We have the area Member of Parliament (MP) and the Governor but it is like they see no need of completing projects that were started by the former governor.
From this Motion, we should come up with a law to ensure that projects which are started by any individual are completed because people have to benefit.
Madam Temporary Speaker, with those few remarks, I support this Motion.
all service personnel and the families of those currently serving, and those who may have been killed in the line of duty. (Motion deferred)
liable for any loss arising from that use and shall make good the loss, whether the person remains the holder of the office or not.” In other words, governors should not escape from the dragnet of the law. Even if they left office, they should be followed, even if they invested stolen funds at the end of the world.
I have some of the Auditor-General’s reports for the FY 2017/2018. I have extracted some excerpts which clearly show mammoth loss of millions of shillings from the taxpayers. For example, Machakos County Government awarded a contract amounting to Kshs11 million for construction of a microwave shredder house to safeguard machines from vagaries of weather. Despite the projects stalling, a whopping Kshs4.9 million was paid to the contractor. The payments were never supported by any documents or even the completion certificate. That is sad!
Baringo County Government paid a sum of Kshs16 million to a contractor who abandoned the stalled Kabarnet Stadium. That is another aspect where the county lost a lot of money. The county also lost about Kshs18.4 million for construction of Barwessa Slaughterhouse in Baringo North Sub-County.
Nandi County – I am happy the Senator for Nandi County spoke before me – also lost Kshs21 million on a project whose total value ought to have been Kshs97 million. The variation caused loss of funds to the said county.
We also have Homa Bay County. In 2015, Homa Bay County Government entered into a deal for construction of Kadongo-Gedia Road to bitumen standards at a cost of Kshs687 million. Three companies were contracted and paid a lot of money. One of them known as Nairobi Logistics & Construction Company Limited was paid Kshs240 million. Another one known as Bridgestone was paid Kshs 207 million and another one known as Pepeta Holdings Company Limited was paid Kshs239.3 million. This is loss of money.
Madam Temporary Speaker, even your county which is Kajiado lost money. The Auditor-General reported that the County Government of Kajiado entered into a contract of Kshs198 million for construction of a modern sports complex in Ngong Town. So far, Kshs37 million has been paid for the project but no works have been done at the sports complex since 2016. That is money that got lost.
Samburu County Government, which is always in trouble, paid about 96 per cent of the contract sum which is equivalent to Kshs256 million for construction of the County Government’s office block yet the contractor abandoned the site leaving it incomplete. In Kiambu County, the construction of Kikuyu Level 4 Hospital in Thogoto stalled and it cost Kshs211 million. The construction of Thogoto-Ndeiya Road also stalled after they had paid Kshs181 million.
The construction of Kimbo-Matangini Road cost Kshs170 million and also stalled. In Limuru, we have the hawkers market which cost Kshs14 million and the Community Hall in Kiambu town also stalled when they had paid Kshs14 million. Rehabilitation of Kanjahi Road cost Kshs145 million and the refurbishment of Gikambura and Ruiru football stadium cost Kshs38 million. All that money was paid but the projects have not been completed.
In Kitui County, where Sen. Wambua comes from, they paid Kshs20 million for the construction of a mortuary at Mwingi Level 5 Hospital. The contractor received the funds but abandoned the mortuary before fixing the windows. They say that dead people
do not tell tales but that is disrespect to the dead. Despite receiving Kshs41 million out of the contract sum of Kshs43 million, the firm constructing the outpatient block at Kitui Referral Hospital were demobilised from the site without completing the project.
In Turkana County, we have stalled projects that amount to Kshs170 million. This includes the construction of Kanaodon Service Water Irrigation Scheme where they paid Kshs74.5 million. They spent Kshs19 million in the construction of Lorugum Social Hall. The Construction of the administrator’s office in Nakalale Ward was at a cost of Kshs12 million yet all these projects stalled and a lot of money was lost.
Your time is up.
Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. I beg to move- THAT, pursuant to Standing Orders 28 and 29, the Senate do adjourn until Tuesday, 2ndJuly, 2019. I request the Senators to adopt this Motion because we are supposed to go for a short recess as per our Calendar. I know that the Senators will do the oversight work when they go back to their counties. I also thank the Members for what they have done during this period. A lot of Bills, Motions and Statements have been transacted.
I request Sen. (Dr.) Zani to second this Motion. The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Pareno) Proceed, Sen. (Dr.) Zani.
Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. I stand to second the Adjournment Motion. We all know that we are proceeding on a recess for about a week. This is a good time to refresh ourselves, touch base with the counties and do some of the committee work. This recess is part of the activities in the Calendar of the Senate. The Calendar is already in place.
Therefore, Madam Temporary Speaker, I beg to second.
Sen. Olekina, I will give you one minute to contribute to this Motion.
Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. I rise to support this Adjournment Motion. It is time for us to go and support our citizens and constituents and, most importantly, follow-up on some of our resolutions.
Earlier on, there was a Motion on the stalled projects. This should actually give us the opportunity to go out there and have a physical verification of these projects. We are hearing a lot and learning about why projects are stalling. In most cases, the information we get from the Auditor-General and the Controller of Budget (CoB) is that there could be a mismatch in terms of what is being budgeted for versus what is being appropriated.
Therefore, Madam Temporary Speaker, this is a great moment for us. Having been here for the entire Session, it is not a bad thing to take a week off so that we can go and meet our constituents.
With those few remarks, I beg to support.
Proceed, Sen. Wario.
Asante Bi. Spika wa Muda, kwa kunipa nafasi hii. Wakati huu tunapo enda likizo ni wakati mzuri kabisa kwenda kuonana na watu wetu.
Vile vile huu ni wakati tunapo hitajika hapa Bungeni na huko makwetu, ili tuende kuona ni mambo gani gavana anayo fanya huko. Tunafanya oversight, kwa kutembea
WAIVER OF INTEREST ON HELB LOANS FOR GRADUATES
RENAMING OF MURANG’A UNIVERSITY OF TECHNOLOGY TO KENNETH MATIBA UNIVERSITY OF TECHNOLOGY
profile as a progressive and international Technical University, growing its enrolment strategically; FURTHER AWARE that the University is located in Murang’a County, the home County of the late politician Kenneth NjindoMatiba, who died a patriotic and political hero, with numerous achievements spanning four decades; NOTING THAT, the late Matiba was a prolific industrialist in the hospitality and education sector, and an accomplished public servant having served as the first indigenous African Permanent Secretary for Education in 1963; Permanent Secretary for Commerce; Chairperson of the Kenya Football Federation from 1974-78; a member of parliament for Kiharu constituency; Cabinet Minister for Health; Culture & Social Services; and Transport & Communications; FURTHER NOTING THAT, the late Matiba was part of the opposition alliance that led the liberation struggle for the restoration of multi-party democracy through the Forum for the Restoration of Democracy (FORD), later founding FORD –Asili under which he ran for presidency in 1992 general election; COGNIZANT that under the Heroes Act, 2014, the state is obliged to confer recognition to the late statesman for his cardinal contributions to the political and economic growth of this country; FURTHER COGNIZANT that other patriotic Kenyans like Jomo Kenyatta, Daniel arap Moi, Masinde Muliro, Dedan Kimathi and Jaramogi Oginga Odinga have been accorded such recognition; NOW THEREFORE, the Senate urges the National Government in remembrance of Matiba’s contribution to our Nation, to rename Murang’a University of Technology to Kenneth Matiba University of Technology. (Motion deferred)
IMPROVING ALLOCATION OF RESEARCH FUNDS TO INSTITUTIONS OF HIGHER LEARNING
ACKNOWLEDGING THAT, various national policies on research and innovation are available, but fragmentation in the sector has short- changed the vision of a progressive national research agenda, thereby emboldening low science culture among the population, low global competitiveness ranking, inadequate funding, and poor linkages between academic research and commercial industry; NOW THEREFORE, the Senate urgently calls upon the Ministry of Education, Science and Technology:
CREATION OF SUPPORT SERVICES FOR THE DISCIPLINED FORCES AND THEIR FAMILIES
RECOGNIZING
all service personnel and the families of those currently serving, and those who may have been killed in the line of duty. (Motion deferred)
NOTING OF REPORT OF 50TH SESSION OF THE ACP AND 35TH SESSION OF THE ACP-EU JOINT ASSEMBLY
NOTING OF REPORT ON THE 5TH GLOBAL SUMMIT ON OPEN GOVERNANCE PARTNERSHIP
NOTING OF REPORTS OF THE PAN AFRICAN PARLIAMENT
NOTING OF REPORT ON THE 3RD STATUTORY MEETING OF THE FP-ICGLR COMMITTEE ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
(Motion deferred)
MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT ADJOURNMENT OF THE SENATE PURSUANT TO THE APPROVED CALENDAR FOR THE 2019 SESSION
Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. I beg to move- THAT, pursuant to Standing Orders 28 and 29, the Senate do adjourn until Tuesday, 2ndJuly, 2019. I request the Senators to adopt this Motion because we are supposed to go for a short recess as per our Calendar. I know that the Senators will do the oversight work when they go back to their counties. I also thank the Members for what they have done during this period. A lot of Bills, Motions and Statements have been transacted.
I request Sen. (Dr.) Zani to second this Motion. The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Pareno) Proceed, Sen. (Dr.) Zani.
Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. I stand to second the Adjournment Motion. We all know that we are proceeding on a recess for about a week. This is a good time to refresh ourselves, touch base with the counties and do some of the committee work. This recess is part of the activities in the Calendar of the Senate. The Calendar is already in place.
Therefore, Madam Temporary Speaker, I beg to second.
Sen. Olekina, I will give you one minute to contribute to this Motion.
Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. I rise to support this Adjournment Motion. It is time for us to go and support our citizens and constituents and, most importantly, follow-up on some of our resolutions.
Earlier on, there was a Motion on the stalled projects. This should actually give us the opportunity to go out there and have a physical verification of these projects. We are hearing a lot and learning about why projects are stalling. In most cases, the information we get from the Auditor-General and the Controller of Budget (CoB) is that there could be a mismatch in terms of what is being budgeted for versus what is being appropriated.
Therefore, Madam Temporary Speaker, this is a great moment for us. Having been here for the entire Session, it is not a bad thing to take a week off so that we can go and meet our constituents.
With those few remarks, I beg to support.
Proceed, Sen. Wario.
Asante Bi. Spika wa Muda, kwa kunipa nafasi hii. Wakati huu tunapo enda likizo ni wakati mzuri kabisa kwenda kuonana na watu wetu.
Vile vile huu ni wakati tunapo hitajika hapa Bungeni na huko makwetu, ili tuende kuona ni mambo gani gavana anayo fanya huko. Tunafanya oversight, kwa kutembea
kwenye kaunti na kugharamika kila siku. Natarajia kwamba wakati tutakapo rudi na tutakapo enda wakati mwingine, tutapata pesa za oversight ili kutuwezesha kufika na kuangalia ni yapi yanayo jiri katika kaunti zetu.
Kwa hivyo, Bi. Spika wa Muda, nachukua fursa hii kusema asante, kwa sababu tumepata wakati mwema. Ubarikiwe. Asante.
ADJOURNMENT
Order, Senators. There being no other business, it is now time to adjourn the House. The Senate, therefore, stands adjourned until Tuesday, 2nd July, 2019, at 2.30p.m.
The Senate rose at 6.30 p.m.