Thursday, 13th March 2025

Sergeant-at-Arms, you may ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes.

Hon. Members, we now have quorum. We may proceed. Sergeant-at-Arms, stop the Bell. Hon. Waqo, go ahead and lay the Papers on behalf of the Leader of the Majority Party.

Hon. Deputy Speaker, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table:

Hon. Members, before we proceed, I would like to recognise the presence of students from St Francis Girls Mang’u from Gatundu North Constituency, Kiambu County, who are seated in the Speaker’s Gallery.

On behalf of the substantive Speaker, myself and the National Assembly, we welcome them to follow our parliamentary proceedings.

We have statements from Hon. Machua Waithaka, Member for Kiambu Constituency. Leader of the Majority Party, do you have a point of order?

Yes, Hon. Deputy Speaker.

What is it?

Hon. Deputy Speaker, on behalf of our County Woman Representative, Hon. Wanjiku Wamuratha Ann and the Member for Gatundu North, Hon. Kururia, I welcome the beautiful girls from St Francis Mang’u, which is in Gatundu North, Mang’u area. It is one of the very best schools in Kiambu County. It also hosts very many students from across the country. I encourage them to continue working hard and welcome them to observe the proceedings of the National Assembly. I have many students from Kikuyu Constituency who schooled there.

Thank you.

We have a request for statement by Hon. Machua Waithaka, Member for Kiambu County. Is the Member for Kiambu, Hon. Waithaka, here?

Let me go to the next one by the Member for Makueni County, Hon. Susan Kiamba. You may proceed.

Hon. Deputy Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Transport and Infrastructure regarding the status of Emali- Ukia Road in Makueni County.

The Emali-Ukia Road, which serves Kaiti, Makueni and Kibwezi constituencies, is a vital transport corridor that facilitates the movement of people and goods, particularly agricultural produce. It also provides access to essential services such as schools and health facilities. Unfortunately, the road has remained in a dilapidated state since Independence despite repeated commitment by successive governments to have it tarmacked. The unfulfilled promises have left residents in the three constituencies frustrated as they continue to face immense challenges in transport and economic activities.

The residents of Makueni, Kibwezi and Kaiti are predominantly farmers and traders, relying on Emali-Ukia Road to transport their produce to markets and processing facilities. Makueni is well known for mango and orange production. Kibwezi produces watermelon and onions while Kaiti is known for dairy farming and banana production. The poor condition of Emali-Ukia Road, therefore, significantly hampers these economic activities, leading to post- harvest losses, increased transport costs and reduced market access. It is, therefore, necessary that the Government prioritises tarmacking and proper maintenance of this road to enhance economic prosperity and improve the livelihoods of the people in this region.

Hon. Deputy Speaker, it is against this background that I request for a Statement from the Chairperson of the Department Committee on Transport and Infrastructure on the

Is the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Transport and Infrastructure here? Is there a Member of the Committee present who can undertake, on his behalf, to bring the statement?

Hon. Chairman, on behalf of the Committee, we undertake to push for an answer within the first week after the coming recess.

Thank you, we appreciate. Next Order.

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SECOND SCHEDULE SUMMARY OF INCREASES/DECREASES IN THE SECOND SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES FOR THE FY 2024/2025 VOTE CODE VOTE & PROGRAMME SUPPLEMENTARY II BUDGET ESTIMATES FOR FY 2024/25 (Changes) GROSS CURRENT ESTIMATES GROSS CAPITAL ESTIMATES GROSS TOTAL ESTIMATES Executive Office of the President 906,688,041 50,000,000 956,688,041

255,000,000 Office of the Deputy President 420,400,000 - 420,400,000

Secretary 168,400,000 65,000,000 233,400,000

233,400,000 State Department for Parliamentary Affairs (24,974,704) - (24,974,704)

(14,262,704) State Department for Performance and Delivery Management 124,900,000 - 124,900,000

3,500,000 State Department for Cabinet Affairs (10,000,000) - (10,000,000)

(10,000,000) State House 3,659,488,392 400,000,000 4,059,488,392

4,059,488,392 State Department for Correctional Services 1,362,340,545 70,000,000 1,432,340,545

248,095,103 State Department for Immigration and Citizen Services 3,147,363,469 2,703,158,000 5,850,521,469

125,000,000 National Police Service 6,201,828,896 550,000,000 6,751,828,896

VOTE CODE VOTE & PROGRAMME SUPPLEMENTARY II BUDGET ESTIMATES FOR FY 2024/25 (Changes) GROSS CURRENT ESTIMATES GROSS CAPITAL ESTIMATES GROSS TOTAL ESTIMATES State Department for Internal Security & National Administration 6,768,402,124 2,510,000,000 9,278,402,124

375,142,124 State Department for Devolution 28,000,000 (1,087,250,000) (1,059,250,000)

(1,059,250,000) State Department for ASALs and Regional Development 5,297,015,000 689,264,212 5,986,279,212

1,441,569,484 Ministry of Defence 4,753,326,106 2,000,000,000 6,753,326,106

State Department for Foreign Affairs 1,055,944,659 - 1,055,944,659

State Department for Diaspora Affairs (4,130,037) - (4,130,037)

(4,130,037) State Department for Technical Vocational Education and Training 8,105,299,107 (890,000,000) 7,215,299,107

448,314,156 State Department for Higher Education and Research 16,249,541,167 (532,203,600) 15,717,337,567

131,558,250 State Department for Basic Education 1,230,000,000 6,421,000,000 7,651,000,000

250,000,000 The National Treasury 11,633,610,267 (13,465,640,808) (1,832,030,541)

109,485,610 State Department for Economic Planning 386,208,648 2,206,404,000 2,592,612,648

25,208,648 State Department for Medical Services 12,276,568,100 (691,140,906) 11,585,427,194

5,755,500,000 State Department for Public Health and Professional Standards 4,964,870,855 670,308,317 5,635,179,172

1,841,500,000 State Department for Roads (76,029,859) 10,264,963,084 10,188,933,225

10,188,933,225 State Department for Transport 2,764,863,577 (1,447,912,500) 1,316,951,077

2,147,680,000 State Department for Shipping and Maritime Affairs 266,400,000 370,000,000 636,400,000

636,400,000 State Department for Housing and Urban Development 1,993,715,526 (13,918,962,602) (11,925,247,076)

32,639,045 State Department for Public Works 370,100,000 100,000,000 470,100,000

245,983,050 State Department for Irrigation 207,320,919 (785,000,000) (577,679,081)

9,118,840 State Department for Water & Sanitation 896,212,014 (20,943,282,634) (20,047,070,620)

State Department for Lands and Physical Planning 404,000,000 1,770,000,000 2,174,000,000

193,816,861 State Department for Information Communication Technology & Digital Economy (688,100,000) (7,252,000,000) (7,940,100,000)

(1,285,700,000) State Department for Broadcasting & Telecommunications 911,599,029 - 911,599,029

72,000,000 State Department for Sports 251,600,000 - 251,600,000

251,600,000 State Department for Culture and Heritage 478,053,260 - 478,053,260

State Department for Youth Affairs and the Creative Economy 326,258,224 (201,710,000) 124,548,224

13,594,086 State Department for Energy 72,800,000 (6,969,527,491) (6,896,727,491)

(954,000,000) State Department for Livestock 177,049,750 (2,015,000,000) (1,837,950,250)

VOTE CODE VOTE & PROGRAMME SUPPLEMENTARY II BUDGET ESTIMATES FOR FY 2024/25 (Changes) GROSS CURRENT ESTIMATES GROSS CAPITAL ESTIMATES GROSS TOTAL ESTIMATES State Department for the Blue Economy and Fisheries 537,570,000 1,878,745,480 2,416,315,480

State Department for Agriculture 1,979,000,000 1,224,824,076 3,203,824,076

State Department for Cooperatives (1,879,300,000) 1,014,000,000 (865,300,000)

(865,300,000) State Department for Trade 2,433,580,000 - 2,433,580,000

58,300,000 State Department for Industry 924,693,100 (179,300,000) 745,393,100

137,993,100 State Department for Micro, Small and Medium Enterprises Development 554,500,000 (152,000,000) 402,500,000

98,300,000 State Department for Investment Promotion 611,370,000 (255,420,000) 355,950,000

355,950,000 State Department for Labour and Skills Development 291,001,127 538,210,000 829,211,127

496,333,440 State Department for Social Protection and Senior Citizen Affairs 262,500,000 (100,000,000) 162,500,000

10,500,000 State Department for Mining 434,200,000 160,000,000 594,200,000

153,200,000 State Department for Petroleum 19,349,090 - 19,349,090

19,349,090 State Department for Tourism 3,755,787,999 400,000,000 4,155,787,999

21,679,807 State Department for Wildlife (3,700,000) 650,000,000 646,300,000

646,300,000 State Department for Gender and Affirmative Action (16,200,000) (558,950,596) (575,150,596)

(3,200,000) State Department for Public Service 559,426,510 280,000,000 839,426,510

220,900,000 State Department for East African Community 278,970,000 - 278,970,000

278,970,000 The State Law Office 165,952,960 - 165,952,960

(27,058,949) Ethics and Anti-Corruption Commission 35,800,000 24,700,000 60,500,000

60,500,000 National Intelligence Service 9,300,000,000 - 9,300,000,000

Public Prosecutions 215,400,000 20,000,000 235,400,000

Political Parties (204,000,000) - (204,000,000)

(204,000,000) Witness Protection Agency 26,000,000 - 26,000,000

26,000,000 State Department for Environment & Climate Change 182,000,000 437,000,000 619,000,000

State Department for Forestry 169,200,000 (472,000,000) (302,800,000)

25,900,000 Kenya National Commission on Human Rights 5,000,000 - 5,000,000

5,000,000 National Land Commission 176,000,000 - 176,000,000

176,000,000 Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission (120,000,000) - (120,000,000)

The Commission on Revenue Allocation (6,276,461) - (6,276,461)

(6,276,461) Public Service Commission 92,342,795 - 92,342,795

(200,000) Salaries and Remuneration Commission 101,174,396 - 101,174,396

101,174,396 Teachers Service Commission 17,927,697,360 439,383,436 18,367,080,796

328,000,000 National Police Service Commission -

Auditor General 149,764,800 235,200 150,000,000

Commission on Administrative Justice 3,300,000 - 3,300,000

3,300,000 National Gender and Equality Commission 30,000,000 (10,000,000) 20,000,000

20,000,000 Independent Policing Oversight Authority 20,000,000 - 20,000,000

20,000,000 Sub-Total: Executive 136,069,036,751 (34,020,105,332) 102,048,931,419 The Judiciary 875,710,165 (55,000,000) 820,710,165

820,710,165 Judicial Service Commission 98,980,000 - 98,980,000

98,980,000 Sub-Total: Judiciary 974,690,165 (55,000,000) 919,690,165 Parliamentary Service Commission 89,000,000 - 89,000,000

847,230,000 Parliamentary Joint Services 216,000,000 200,000,000 416,000,000

116,700,000 Sub-Total: Parliament 1,514,860,000 200,000,000 1,714,860,000 Grand Total 138,558,586,916 (33,875,105,332) 104,683,481,584

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Approved Additional Exchequer Disbursement Dates Remarks Committee recommendat ion Current Capital Total Current Transfers to Other Levels of Government

1,750,000,000 in the National and County Governments 1091 State Department for Roads

- 18,940,000,00 18,940,000,000 8,000,000,000 18/12/2024 Approved 0202000 Road Transport

- 18,940,000,00 18,940,000,000 8,000,000,000 Roads Construction

12,000,000,00 12,000,000,000 8,000,000,000 1123 State Department for Broadcasting & Telecommunications

627,692,112 - 627,692,112 354,395,739 20/12/2024 Pending Bills under Government Advertising Agency Approved 0208000 Information and Communication Services

627,692,112 - 627,692,112 354,395,739 Advertising, Awareness and Publicity Campaigns

627,692,112 354,395,739.0 Consolidated Fund Services

19,685,136,690 - 19,685,136,690 19,685,136,69 12/31/2024 Approved Guaranteed Debt

19,685,136,690 19,685,136,69 Total

44,428,792,550 43,737,880,80 88,166,673,354 40,418,918,41 (Moved by Hon. Gladys Boss on 12.3.2025 - Afternoon Sitting) (Resumption of debate interrupted on 12.3.2025 - Afternoon Sitting)

Hon. Members, this Motion was exhaustively debated yesterday and it is time for the Mover to reply.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, before I reply, allow Hon. Wamboka to contribute. I know he had a lot to say. He did not have an opportunity yesterday. Therefore, I will give him two minutes of my time.

Hon. Wanami, you have two minutes.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, the Leader of the Majority Party is pronouncing my name loudly.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I support this Motion. I am happy that the Members of the Budget and Appropriations Committee have now realised their mistakes. I implore on the new Budget and Appropriations Committee to ensure that they balance the allocation of resources of this country across the board. I want to talk about healthcare and allocation of resources for our hospitals.

I have looked at the Second Supplementary Estimates. I come from the western region of this country, which has five referral hospitals in Kitale, Bungoma, Busia, Kakamega, and Mbale in Vihiga. Curiously, out of the five referral hospitals, only one has been allocated a

paltry sum of Ksh50 million. Small hospitals like Soy have been given Ksh500 million. In Bondo, there is Jaramogi Oginga Odinga Referral Hospital. The Nyanza region already has Russia Hospital in Kisumu, which is a parastatal, but the western region does not have any referral hospital. The Government has since moved to make Jaramogi Oginga Odinga Hospital in Bondo a parastatal, whereas the entire circuit of the western region does not have any serious referral hospital. I implore on the Budget and Appropriations Committee to try and balance the allocation of resources. They should ensure that every Kenyan feels they are part and parcel of this country. It is very unfair.

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

Order, Hon. Wanami.

Hon. Pukose, what is out of order?

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. My point of order is on the issue raised by Hon. Wanami, specifically his complaint about the promotion of Jaramogi Oginga Odinga Hospital to a national referral hospital. It is not in order for him to raise such a complaint. He should, instead, have made a request for, perhaps, Kakamega Hospital to be promoted to a national referral hospital rather than referring to Jaramogi Oginga Odinga Hospital. The promotion of Jaramogi Oginga Odinga Hospital to a national referral hospital followed the requisite procedure, including Cabinet approval. The Governor for Kisumu County, Professor Anyang’ Nyong'o, wrote to the national Government and there was an agreement to promote Jaramogi Oginga Odinga Hospital to the national referral level.

Hon. Pukose, that sounds like a point of information, not a point of order.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, let me finish my contribution.

You have 30 seconds.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, Hon. Pukose did not understand what I was talking about. I was neither talking about Professor Nyong'o's hospital nor complaining about the upgrading of the hospital in Bondo. I was just saying that in considering upgrading hospitals, other facilities should also have been considered. Kakamega Hospital, for instance, requires a status upgrade. I am not complaining on behalf of anyone else. I need fairness. Hon. Pukose, maybe that is why you lost the chairmanship of the Health Committee.

Hon. Wamboka, you are totally out of order. You do not disparage your colleague like that.

I apologise. It was on a light note.

Thank you. The Mover can now reply.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, as I proceed to reply, I encourage Hon. Wamboka to take responsibility, as a leader from that region, and initiate the process of making sure that Kakamega Hospital becomes a national referral health facility. It is within his power to do so.

I take this opportunity to thank all the Members of the Liaison Committee, who worked very hard to ensure that we completed this process. I appreciate their effort and their late-night input. I also appreciate the Members of the House who stayed here until late last night to

contribute to this debate. It was good to see Members interrogate the document and give so much feedback.

With those remarks, I beg to reply.

Thank you.

Hon. Members, we proceed to the next Order, which is Committee of Supply.

Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. Even as I support this increase, I just want to state as follows: The total increase under Vote 1011 to Vote 2017, the presidency, is in billions. Even as we approve these increases, it is important for the presidency to set a good example in terms of use of public resources. What I am seeing is that the presidency is receiving a large increase, while very critical areas, as we will see as we go down, are not getting any increases. In my view, they need to balance because we know what the presidency does.

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, but all said and done, I support and will be monitoring. It is unfortunate that when we started this Committee of Supply, majority of the Members just stepped out. I could see the leaders of the majority and minority parties struggling to get them to come back. This is the most important matter, and these are the same Members who will start saying that they are not getting resources for their areas. This is such serious business that it needs to be addressed with a full House. You cannot even see the chairpersons here! These are the issues. I know Members complain about the unequal distribution of resources, but they are never here when resources are being supplied.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. The Temporary Chairlady

: Thank you very much.

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I congratulate the Liaison Committee for this increase. Our correctional services have suffered through many challenges. When such departments get consideration for an increase, we appreciate very much.

I support.

THAT, further to the Supplementary Appropriation (No.2) Act, 2024, the sum allocated to meet the expenditure (Recurrent and Development) for the year ending 30th June 2025 in respect of Vote 1024 (State Department for Immigration and Citizen Services) be increased by a sum not exceeding Ksh5,850,521,469.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. Even as I support this increase to the National Police Service, it is important for the police to take their work a bit seriously. In the last two days in Nairobi, Kenyans have been badly harassed by crooks in places where the President visited. We cannot be giving them more resources when Kenyans are being exposed to these kinds of problems from crooks.

I support. The Temporary Chairlady

: Hon. Wamboka. You do not have a card.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I support this funding to the National Police Service. Kenya is still far from international standards. As we proceed, I beseech this House to continue giving more resources to this department. This is because at the end of the day we need security. We are not secure. I also ask the Budget and Appropriations Committee, now chaired by my good friend Hon. Atandi, that we must deliberate and give ourselves targets and timelines. That in five or 10-years’ time, we should be at par with the international requirements of the number of policemen per citizenry.

I support. Thank you.

Sorry, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I had put the intervention on the National Police Service, but you bypassed me.

The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari): Very well. Hon. Wanami, is your intervention on this one?

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, we really appreciate the Government’s efforts in trying to bring services closer to mwananchi. So many administrative units have been created, and I laud the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Affairs for this. These administrative units need a lot of resources. I applaud the Liaison Committee on allocating resources to this department, but also indicate that it is not enough. As an Assembly, we should vote more resources so that we bring services closer to mwananchi. Bearing in mind the Bill by Hon. Mwengi Mutuse on village elders that will come into being very soon, this department will need a lot more resources than what we have allocated to them.

The Temporary Chairlady

: Hon. Mutuse.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. To echo what my colleague, Hon. Wamboka has said, we have gazetted many new divisions, locations and sub-locations, including in my constituency, that have not been operationalised. I want to believe that upon the approval of this appropriation, the State Department will move with speed so that we can employ new sub-chiefs, chiefs, and deploy assistant county commissioners to the newly created administrative units.

The Temporary Chairlady

: Very well. We will keep it at one minute. Very fast, Hon. Baya.

Yes, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I also want to echo the same sentiments. There was a debate here yesterday about the operationalisation of new administrative units, and I think this Ksh9 billion that we are voting on should go into ensuring that it is done, and also to pay the salaries of chiefs and assistant chiefs who have not been paid. In terms of security, this country needs to up its game so that we are a secure country.

I support. The Temporary Chairlady

: Hon. Tongoyo, finally on this.

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, thank you so much. I do not want to belabour what Members have already said. You remember yesterday during the afternoon session that this topic of sub-county and administrative units came up strongly. I indicated in this House that in this Supplementary Budget, we had about Ksh280 million, which could do very little.

So, I implore this august House that, maybe, when we move into Supplementary Estimates III or possibly the Estimates, we consider ploughing more resources into this sector so that we can enable the operationalisation of majority of gazetted units. Members should also know that the power to pass it is in their hands.

The Temporary Chairlady

: Hon. Members, before we go to the next Vote, allow me to welcome, in the Speaker's Gallery, students from St. Loreto Muthetheni Girls from Mwala Constituency, Machakos County, and, in the Public Gallery, students from Loreto Girls High School from Soi Constituency, Uasin Gishu County. On behalf of yourself and the House, I welcome them to observe the proceedings of the House.

THAT, further to the Supplementary Appropriation (No.2) Act, 2024, the sum allocated to meet the expenditure (Recurrent and Development) for the year ending 30th June 2025 in respect of Vote 1032 (State Department for Devolution) be reduced by a sum not exceeding Ksh1,059,250,000.

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move:

THAT, the First Schedule be amended in Vote 1036

by deleting the figure Kshs. 2,800,189,484 in Column 10

, under the programme 1013000 Integrated Regional Development, and substituting therefor the figure Kshs 3,150,189,484. This is an increase of Ksh300 million to factor for drought mitigation in various community dams.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady.

Yes, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. In regard to that amount, while I support it, why is it then that the Ministry of Defence is proposing that

army personnel should pay for their food? I think if this amount is well utilised, that question should not arise because since time immemorial in Kenya, the Ministry of Defence has self- supported in their own mess, untaxed items, and even their food.

The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari): Thank you. Very well noted. Hon. Makali.

Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Chairlady.

Even as we support this huge increase to the Ministry of Defence, we know that a modernisation programme is taking place, but it needs to be well planned, so that such huge sums are not proposed in the Supplementary Budget. Such huge sums should be proposed in the annual estimates. We should not get such huge sums in the Supplementary Budget unless there are emergencies. As we said yesterday, the Supplementary Budget is to cater for emergencies.

The Temporary Chairlady

: Hon. Mutuse.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady.

Many patriotic soldiers have lost their lives in the line of duty. During my time in the Public Accounts Committee, the Office of the Auditor-General severally raised the issue of their compensation. That will be one of the considerations as we appropriate these funds. Since those who lost their lives defending our country were the breadwinners for their families, they should be adequately compensated through the money that we appropriate.

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, we have received reports that many of our foreign missions are not adequately facilitated to carry out their duties. We want to believe that this money is going to our foreign embassies and it will not be utilised at the headquarters in Nairobi.

June 2025 in respect of Vote 1054 (State Department for Diaspora Affairs), be reduced by a sum not exceeding Ksh4,130,037.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I support the increase. Many technical and vocational training colleges in the country, including Matuga TVC, were officially opened last year. However, we have not received equipment up to now. This being a centre of excellence, it is my hope that this increase will go into the purchase of that equipment. I hope this will be done fast because students have been admitted, but there is no equipment.

The Temporary Chairlady

: Member for Kanduyi.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I also support this increase because some technical vocational training centres in my constituency have not been funded, specifically the Bungoma National Polytechnic. I hope the sums will go towards assisting operations and programmes in that particular institution.

The Temporary Chairlady

: Hon. Owen.

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I also echo the same sentiments. We have established many institutions which are half complete because of unavailability of funds. They have taken very long to be completed. I hope this money will also go into that.

Secondly, the State Department should employ more teachers in the technical and vocational colleges and also procure the necessary equipment. I support this increase.

Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Chairlady.

As we appropriate this sum of money, the very young universities that were recently chartered have great problems with infrastructure, including Tharaka University. I hope great consideration is being given to university infrastructure in the Supplementary Estimates, which we are about to pass. Otherwise, our students will be studying under trees, which is unacceptable.

The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari): Hon. Makali.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. This is a huge increase which will also take care of loans for our students, especially the needy ones.

I support the increase.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I support this increase, but I still hope that capitation for our primary and secondary schools will be released on a timely basis.

The Temporary Chairlady

: Hon. Farah.

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I support the increase. However, in addition to what is already there, we should use climate-friendly cooking methods, also known as smart cooking, in boarding secondary schools in arid and semi-arid areas. The region has a fragile ecosystem and smart cooking methods will spare the cutting of trees. Therefore, the increase must cater for smart cooking technology machines, so that those secondary schools can lower their energy expenditure by almost 98 per cent and at the same time protect our ecosystem.

The Temporary Chairlady

: Hon. Wanjiku.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I wanted to talk about the capitation being sent on time. Education is becoming difficult in this country. The Ministry of Education and the Teachers Service Commission (TSC) have to find ways of aligning the disbursement of the capitation with the school calendar because the school calendar cannot be changed. If we allocate money towards school capitation, but it is not released on time, that disrupts the school system.

The Temporary Chairlady

: Hon. John Makali.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I am happy that the increment also affects quality assurance. We hope this particular increment will assist the education officers on the ground in terms of movement to enable them to visit all schools to ensure effective implementation of the curriculum.

I support this increment. The Temporary Chairlady

: Hon. Tandaza.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady.

The current Competency-Based Curriculum (CBC) has three pathways. While I support this increment, nowhere does it mention that they will concentrate on the third pathway of arts and sports. That is an area which needs to be developed. There is a lot of talent in that area, but the Ministry seems to have swept it under the carpet.

I support the increment. The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari): Hon. Mutuse.

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, my concern is that some infrastructure projects received partial funding in the last financial year. I believe this extra funding being allocated to basic education, especially secondary schools, will also be channelled towards completing projects that threaten to become white elephants in some of our schools.

The Temporary Chairlady

: Hon. Owen.

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I want to buttress the fact that we need this money at the State Department for Basic Education because there are many pending infrastructure development projects especially the CBC classrooms. Many schools have not received funds to construct CBC classrooms. Once the Ministry receives this money, I urge them to ensure there is equitable distribution of funds, so that there are enough classrooms in all parts of the country and students get a good feel of the CBC curriculum.

THAT, further to the Supplementary Appropriation (No.2) Act, 2024, the sum allocated to meet the expenditure (Recurrent and Development) for the year ending 30th June 2025 in respect of Vote 1082 (State Department for Medical Services) be increased by a sum not exceeding Ksh11,585,427,194.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I support the increment. However, counties like Kwale do not have a referral hospital to date. I hope the increment will go to such counties which dearly need referral hospitals.

No. The Temporary Chairlady

: Thank you.

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move the following amendment:

THAT, the Schedule be amended in Vote 1091 by deleting the figure Ksh130,176,743,030 in Column 10

, under Programme 0202000, Road Transport, and substituting therefor the figure Ksh136,407,243,030. This is to cater for an increase of Ksh62 billion for the Nairobi-Nakuru-Mau Summit Road, which is ready to start, and is meant to provide safeguards for the public-private partnership involved.

(Question of the amendment proposed)

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I had wanted to comment on the one on road transport. Yesterday, we were given a very good report on what the Liaison Committee has done regarding the non-financial recommendations on budget-making going forward. Geo-mapping is something that is going to help us. These mind-bogging figures of Ksh10 billion or Ksh16 billion will begin to make sense in areas that have not been getting this kind of a share. I support this and hope the Liaison Committee’s Report on geo-mapping and equity in resource allocation will be applied so that some of our roads like the one I mentioned yesterday - Tarang’anya-Ntimaru-Nyamtiro- Kegonga-Loliondo B1 Junction Road - can also be done. Thank you, I support. The Temporary Chairlady (Martha Wangari) : Very well. There is a proposed amendment on Vote 1092. Mover. Programme 0205000 - Air Transport

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move the following amendment:

THAT, the Schedule be amended in Vote 1092 by inserting Ksh50,000,000 in Column 9

under Programme 0205000, Air Transport. Hon. Temporary Chairlady, this is for the completion of ongoing projects on airstrips.

June 2025 in respect of Vote 1093 (State Department for Shipping and Maritime Affairs) be increased by a sum not exceeding Ksh636,400,000.

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move:

THAT, the First Schedule to the Order Paper be amended in Vote 1094 by deleting the figure Ksh377,917,891 in Column 10

under Programme 0106000 – General Administration Planning and Support Services and substituting therefore the figure Ksh459,917,891. This is an increase of Ksh82 million to cater for court awards. The Temporary Chairlady

: Very well.

The Temporary Chairlady

: Hon. Wanjiku, I can see you. I will give you an opportunity to contribute.

I wanted to contribute to Vote 1094 and on roads. Maybe the computer is not reading the interventions.

The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari): Let us make progress.

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move:

THAT, the First Schedule to the Order Paper be amended in Vote 1104 by deleting the figure of Ksh16,133,590,000 appearing in Column 10

under the Programme 1014000 – Irrigation and Land Reclamation, and substituting therefor the figure Ksh16,373,590,000. These resources will cater for the last mile water reach from the dams to the wananchi. It is an increase by Ksh240 million.

The Temporary Chairlady

: Hon. Ngusya.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I just want to support this amendment brought by the Mover because we need a lot of these projects in our constituencies, especially the last mile connectivity with water.

The Temporary Chairlady

: Kitayama.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I support the amendment, but reduction and water should not be found in the same sentence. Maybe we will do better next time, so that we have more money to serve our people well by making sure that the last mile water connections, development of dams and harvesting of water are well done.

June 2025 in respect of Vote 1109 (State Department for Water and Sanitation) be reduced by a sum not exceeding Ksh20,047,070,620. Programme 1017000 – Water and Sewerage Infrastructure Development

The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari): There is a proposed amendment. Mover.

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move:

THAT, the First Schedule to the Order Paper be amended in Vote 1109 by deleting the figure Ksh18,730,307,366 in Column 10

under the Programme 1017000 – Water and Sewerage Infrastructure Development, and substituting therefor the figure Ksh19,090,361,126. The money will cover the pending bills by the State corporations under the State Department for Water and Irrigation.

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I am a Member of the Departmental Committee on Sports and Culture and I support this amendment because most of the activities which were affected were pensions. It is very important that we pay our pensions and gratuity in time to the staff who have exited service.

I support the amendment.

The Temporary Chairlady

: Before the next Vote, allow me to welcome students from Christ the King School, Nakuru East Constituency, Nakuru County, who are seated in the Public Gallery. Join me in welcoming them to observe the proceedings of the House.

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move:

THAT, the First Schedule to the Order Paper be amended in Vote 1135 by deleting the figure Ksh386,922,250 appearing in Column 9

under Programme 0711000 – Youth Empowerment Services, and substituting therefore the figure with Ksh387,122,250. This is an increase of Ksh200 million to cater for interventions under youth unemployment.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I beg to move:

THAT, the Schedule be amended in Vote 1152 by deleting the figure Ksh25,892,921,654 in Column 10

under the Programme 0213000 - Power Transmission and Distribution, and substituting therefor the figure Ksh26,042,921,954.

This is an increase of Ksh150 million for the last mile connectivity and purchase of transformers.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I support the reduction and also note the increase of Ksh350 million for the electrification of public facilities and the other increase of Ksh150 million for the installation of transformers in constituencies. This item is long overdue. I hope that once we pass this Supplementary Estimates, they will move with speed to provide connectivity to schools, which are not connected.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I support the amendment, but even as I appreciate the increment, as we move towards the main budget, we will need to increase allocation for rural electrification and for extension of power connectivity to rural areas in Kenya. I believe that every home in this country should be connected to electricity in this age. Electricity connectivity spurs economic growth in a region.

I support. The Temporary Chairlady

: Hon. Bashir.

Thank you. As I support this increment, I would like to ask the Ministry to ensure that electricity connectivity is countrywide. As we speak, there are areas in Mandera Town, the county headquarters, that have been in darkness for the past month due to a lack of generators. This situation is concerning, especially since we have allocated funds for the last-mile connectivity.

The Temporary Chairlady

: Next is Hon. Waqo. Please, keep it brief.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I also wish to add my voice to this. We have a major electricity problem where I come from. Most of the areas are not connected. I support this. It says that it will be reduced by a sum not exceeding Ksh6 million.

The Temporary Chairlady

: Let us have Hon. Muchangi.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. The issue of electricity connectivity is very contentious in this country, especially for those who do not have access. As we increase funding for this Programme, we must ensure that there is fair distribution of this resource so that all households across the country feel accommodated.

The Temporary Chairlady

: Hon. Rindikiri.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. This is a very important Vote. We even need more resources allocated to this Vote. My constituency Buuri requires affirmative action just like many other constituencies. Therefore, as we move forward, we need to be sector-specific. Some Votes are general, but we need to be sector- specific.

(Hon. Owen Baya consulted with the clerks-at-the-Table)

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, if we add the figure that has been increased, the gross figure still remains that there is a decrease in the allocation to the State Department of Energy. This is a fact. My worry is: Why are we reducing an allocation to energy when we have issues in terms of energy in the country? These are the fundamental questions that we need to ask instead of just supporting.

The Temporary Chairlady

: Hon. Baya, you are the only one misunderstanding this. The figure has increased in the said Programme and reduced in the global reduction. This is because Ksh896 million as a reduction is a bigger figure than Ksh746 million.

Let us have the Mover.

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I just want to correct Hon. Owen. He says that we have an electrification problem. That is true, but throwing money into the energy sector does not necessarily ensure the electrification of the entire country. That is why we have moved the money to increase the programme on last-mile electrification. At the end of the day, we want electricity connectivity to reach the most rural areas. It is not about throwing money…

The Temporary Chairlady

: Thank you. The Programme that received additional funding is Power Transmission and Distribution. What Members have debated is proper. Hon. Members, you have debated well. The Ministry has received a boost of Ksh150 million. Therefore, this has reduced the balance in the global figure. So, allow us to make progress.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. There is a new board, the Livestock Marketing and Products Board. It initially required almost Ksh500 million to operationalise. However, I can see in the programme that it has been allocated Ksh50 million. We had a discussion with the Mover on the same and concluded that we need to increase this amount by at least Ksh500 million in the next coming budget to start operationalisation. The Ksh50 million is very little. I expect that there must be an increase in the next budget.

The Temporary Chairlady

: Thank you very much.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I sit in this Committee and there is a big problem when it comes to fish landing sites where there are pending bills. Some are complete, but cannot be operationalised. I hope this increase will go a long way in clearing the pending bills and operationalising fish landing sites in Kwale, Kilifi, and Lamu.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady.

THAT, further to the Supplementary Appropriation (No.2) Act, 2024, the sum allocated to meet the expenditure (Recurrent and Development) for the year ending 30th June 2025 in respect of Vote 1169 (State Department for Agriculture) be increased by a sum not exceeding Ksh3,203,824,076. Programme 0108000 – Crop Development and Management

The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari): Mover, propose amendment.

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move:

THAT, the Schedule be amended in Vote 1169

by deleting the figure Ksh25,205,606,972 appearing in Column 10

under Programme 0108000 under Crop Development and Management, and substituting therefor the figure Ksh25,605,606,972. This is to cater for an increase of Ksh400 million under sugar reforms. Even though sugar companies are going to be privatised, they still need to be viable at the time of sale. Therefore, this is to ensure their maintenance and upgrade so that they are viable for sale.

The Temporary Chairlady

: Hon. Makali. Hon. Members, use your cards on intervention.

Thank you so much, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I support this amendment because agriculture is a very vital sector in our economy. Going forward we need to put more money in this department. I support the amendment because sugarcane farmers, specifically in the Nzoia Sugar Belt, have suffered together with employees. Moving forward, I urge that we put more resources.

The Temporary Chairlady

: Member for Sotik.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I support this amendment, particularly looking at agriculture as the lifeline of the economy of this country. We want more subsidised inputs, especially seeds.

The Temporary Chairlady

: Member for Nandi.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I am in total support of the allocation or provision of money to sugarcane growing areas. We need to support production, processing and marketing.

The Temporary Chairlady

: Asante.

Programme 0304000 – Cooperative Development and Management

The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari): I am told there is a proposed amendment. Mover.

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move:

THAT, the Schedule be amended in Vote 1173

by deleting the figure Ksh4,830,408,765 in Column 9

under Programme 0304000

and substituting therefor the figure Ksh4,830,908,765. This is an increase by Ksh500 million. It will go to the New Kenya Planters Cooperative Union.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady.

The Temporary Chairlady

: Very well. Before I put the Question, Hon. Rindikiri, do you want to contribute on this?

I support this amendment. It is very important because we are dealing with the coffee sector, which has been on its deathbed. Allocating more money to re-operationalise the New Kenya Planters Cooperative Union will benefit our farmers, particularly in areas like Meru where I come from.

The Temporary Chairlady

: Thank you very much.

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move:

THAT the schedule be amended in Vote 1174

that the Schedule be amended by deleting the figure Ksh3,480,037,327 in column 9

under Programme 0309000

and substituting therefor the figure Ksh3,479,837,327. This is a reduction by Ksh200 million to rationalise the budget within the Ministries Departments and Agencies

(MDAs)

.

The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari): Hon. Farah.

I support the amendment by the Mover to increase that amount.

Our trade representatives travel outside the country for trade missions yet they are not facilitated. They cannot move around looking for markets. Trading with the rest of the world is the most important thing. So, our trade representatives will not bring orders and business opportunities for our country unless we facilitate them well.

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move:

THAT, the Schedule be amended in Vote 1175

by deleting the figure Ksh2,000,000,000 in column 10

under Programme 0320000

and substituting therefor the figure Ksh3,000,000,000. This is to add an extra Ksh1 billion for the County Aggregation and Industrial Parks

(CAIPs)

projects happening in counties. Thank you.

The Temporary Chairlady

: Hon. Members, we had skipped some Votes. We will go back to Vote 1071 and Vote 1072.

June 2025 in respect of Vote 1071 (The National Treasury) be reduced by a sum not exceeding Ksh1,832,030,541. Programme 0717000 - General Administration Planning and Support Services

The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari): Mover.

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move:

THAT, the Schedule be amended in Vote 1071

by deleting the figure Ksh12,527,740,146 in Column 9

under Programme 0717000 - General Administration Planning and Support Services and substituting therefor the figure Ksh12,185,740,146. This is to enable paying pending bills under the State Department of Water and Sanitation which amounts to Ksh342 million.

The Temporary Chairlady

: Member for Nandi County, do you want to contribute on this?

I support this amendment because we urgently need to deal with the white elephant in the House called pending bills.

The Temporary Chairlady

: Hon. Ntwiga. Hon. Patrick Ntwiga

(Chuka/Igambang’ombe, UDA)

: Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I support this amendment. As we know, pending bills have been killing our business people. Therefore, this is a good amendment.

The Temporary Chairlady

: Very well.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I beg to move:

THAT, the schedule be amended under Vote 1072, by deleting Ksh25,208,684 in Column 9

under the programme 0709000 under General Administration, Planning and Support Services and substituting therefor the figure with a new figure of Ksh73,208,684.

Thank you. The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari): Thank you very much. (Question of the amendment proposed)

Yes. Hon. Temporary Chairlady, this is a very important Vote. Yesterday I had the privilege of visiting one of the prisons in the company of the Cabinet Secretary and we saw there is a lot of need to increase infrastructure and other services within our correctional areas. The population is increasing. By approving this, we are in order. We would have asked for more, but this is quite in order.

The Temporary Chairlady

: Hon. Kassim.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. With this increase, the State Department should streamline its operations. We have situations where very elderly people visit the offices for registration and most of the time officers in charge are not there. I support this increment but let them also streamline their services to the elderly people.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I support this very important Vote. We are yet to harness many minerals in the country. Therefore, increasing this money will go a long way in ensuring that we harness the minerals in the country, including in Taita Taveta County, where we have many minerals such as gemstones and iron ore.

THAT, further to the Supplementary Appropriation (No.2) Act, 2024, the sum allocated to meet the expenditure (Recurrent and Development) for the year ending 30th June 2025 in respect of Vote 1193 (State Department for Petroleum) be increased by a sum not exceeding Ksh19,349,090.

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move:

THAT, the First Schedule to the Order Paper be amended –

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady for giving me this opportunity to contribute. It is very unfortunate that while we increase the budgets of all other State departments, we are reducing the allocation to County Woman Representatives of the National Assembly.

We are already working with a very meagre amount of Ksh9 million compared to constituency Members of Parliament who get over Ksh150 million, yet we are supposed to cater for the same people. It is biased and unfortunate. We cannot support this amendment as County Woman Representatives because we need to ensure that we cater for our girls, women, youths and people living with disabilities (PLWDs) in the counties that we represent. That is not something that this House should allow to continue.

The Temporary Chairlady

: Hon. Mayaka.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I also agree with the sentiments by the County Woman Representative for Kirinyaga. This is one of those accidents that Hon. Donya was talking about yesterday. It cannot be that we reduce the budget when it comes to gender related issues. The County Woman Representatives do extremely important things to help the girl child and to promote affirmative action in the country. We need to reconsider this amendment.

The Temporary Chairlady

: Hon. Mizighi.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I also want to echo my colleagues’ sentiments. It is unfortunate because these are funds meant for affirmative action. Why are we further marginalising the marginalised by reducing the funds set aside for them? All the Votes are being increased, but it is unfortunate that funds that support affirmative action are being reduced. We do not support this amendment.

The Temporary Chairlady

: Use your cards for intervention. Hon. Rindikiri.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I support the argument by our County Woman Representatives. This reduction is not being done

in good faith. The problem is that every time we talk about gender, we talk about the girl child or women, whereas by definition, gender is not only confined to ladies. It also applies to boys. We are having a very serious challenge with the boy child. If we reduce this amount, it means we are condemning our boy child. We need money to go and rescue the boy child. We should not approve this as it is. More money needs to be put on this Vote Head for the boy child.

The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari): Hon. Tandaza.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I also want to echo that certainly we would want to increase that amount, but when a Member says that single constituency Members of Parliament have money to do all what they want, the Member should remember that when it comes to bursaries, we give them to both boys and girls. We do not leave the girls out for the county Members of Parliament.

The Temporary Chairlady

: Thank you. Member for Nandi County.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. Of course, the Deputy Speaker who has moved the amendment has tried her level best to explain. My attention is drawn to the global figure which is reduced. That means it is actually affecting every other Vote Head that is in this department. Therefore, we do not support this amendment because we want the global figure to remain as it is or as was, as opposed to the reduction. With the reduction, we do not know where it will go.

So, I oppose. We want the global figure to remain as it was or increased, at least. The Temporary Chairlady

: Hon. Member for Chuka/Igambang’ombe Constituency.

Hon. Patrick Ntwiga (Chuka/Igambang’ombe, UDA) : Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I stand here to support our County Woman Representatives and women leaders in this House. The impact of the work they do in this country is felt in the society. Like my colleague has said, I do not know where the assumption that County Woman Representatives just work to serve the girl child and women came from. We have a very big problem with the boy child who has been neglected. That category of children has been kept under the docket of the County Woman Representatives. This is not a good reduction. We need to give this docket back their money.

The Temporary Chairlady

: Hon. Gladys Boss, I will give you the chance to close this.

Mover, I have given you the opportunity to.

Hon. Temporary Chairperson, it is actually correct that there is a reduction, but unfortunately, I have been explaining to the Members that they will not be able to move an amendment here because we are under Article 114 (2) of the Constitution under money Bills. It says that:

“If, in the opinion of the Speaker of the National Assembly, a motion makes provision for a matter listed in the definition of “a money Bill”, the Assembly may proceed only in accordance with the recommendation of the relevant committee of the Assembly

after taking into account the views of the Cabinet Secretary responsible for Finance.” So, unfortunately, we should have sought the concurrence or the recommendation of the Cabinet Secretary before we can actually move it here. That is the challenge.

The Temporary Chairlady

: Hon. Members, I have given enough people to indulge on this. Allow me to put the Question.

Hon. Members, I would like to make a clarification. Of course, I will not support a reduction, but there is one thing which is very fundamental. The money for the National Government Affirmative Action Fund (NGAAF) is not reduced by even a cent. It will just remain the same. The reduction will be on the basis of the general operation expenses within the Ministry. We are coming to the end of the financial year and there is certain money that has not been spent for general expenditure within the Ministry. This money needs to be spent. The money for NGAAF has not been reduced. We have consulted on that.

So, Hon. Members, this is Committee of Supply; it is not Committee of the whole House. We will come to the Committee of the whole House and still deal with the figure. At that particular time, we will re-look at the figures and see where we are putting the money. But generally, this is the Committee of Supply which is ratified by the Committee of the whole House. So, for me, we are right to pass it. Let us pass it because we are not reducing the money for NGAAF.

Hon. Members, thank you. The Temporary Chairlady

: Hon. Gladys Boss.

Hon. Muge, let me draw your attention to this issue. What we are looking at is a Supplementary Budget; it is not the main budget. We have less than three months to the end of the financial year. In the Supplementary Budget, we look for money that is not going to be spent before the end of the financial year, so that it can be re-appropriated elsewhere.

We also check if there are other people who have mission-critical programmes that will be stuck and need the money as an intervention. So, a Supplementary Budget is just a band- aid; it is not the main budget. So, anything that has been reduced is money that is not required between now and June. I think what we should pay keen attention to is whether there will be an increase in the actual main budget. So, let us not worry about the Supplementary Budget. We will clearly see that there is no reduction in the main budget. It just means that they were not going to be able to spend this money before the end of the financial year.

Those who have been given are probably State corporations that have pending bills and they have been sued and are worried about having interest. So, this it is a rescue mission. So, a Supplementary Budget is just that; it is not the main budget. Furthermore, I of all people, would not have sat in that Committee and allowed money to be reduced from gender.

The Temporary Chairlady (Martha Wangari) : There were two amendments to Vote 1212 on Community Development and General Administration, Planning and Support Services. Have you moved both?

Yes.

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move:

THAT, the First Schedule be amended in Vote 1213

by deleting the figure Kshs643,945,784 in Column 10

, under the Programme 0710000 Public Service Transformation, and substituting therefor with the figure Kshs663,945,784. This is an increase of Ksh20 million for the completion of the pending Huduma Centres under construction.

The Temporary Chairlady

: Hon. Njeri, are you on this one?

June 2025 in respect of Vote 1252 (The State Law Office) be increased by a sum not exceeding Ksh165,952,960.

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move:

THAT, the First Schedule be amended in Vote 1252

be amended by deleting the figure Ksh815,959,137 in Column 9

under the Programme 0609000, General Administration Planning and Support Services, and substituting therefor the figure Ksh890,959,137. That is an increase of Ksh75 million to cover pending operations and maintenance at the State Law Office. These are shortages that came from the previous budget.

June 2025 in respect of Vote 1291 (Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions) be increased by a sum not exceeding Ksh235,400,000.

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, it is okay to remove this money from the Office of the Registrar of Political Parties

(ORPP)

. The Office has a lot of work during and immediately after elections, but after that, there is not much work. Because of that, this money can find some use somewhere else. We can put this money in education and other places. Again, with only three months remaining in the financial year, I do not see how the ORPP is going to spend that huge sum of Ksh204 million for the time being. Therefore, my suggestion is that we agree to remove that money as long as it does not affect salaries and things that have already been spent. Let us move that money and put it elsewhere where there is enough need. Therefore, Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I support the reduction of the funds in the ORPP. The Temporary Chairlady

: Thank you very much.

The Temporary Chairlady

: Mover, report progress.

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move that the Committee of Supply do report to the House its consideration of the Second Supplementary Estimates for the Financial Year 2024/2025 up to Vote 1311 and its approval thereof with amendments and seeks leave to sit again.

The Chairlady, you may report

Hon. Deputy Speaker, I beg to report to the House that the Committee of Supply has considered the Second Supplementary Estimates for the Financial Year 2024/2025 up to Vote 1311 and approved the same with amendments and now seeks leave to sit again.

Mover, Hon. Baya.

Hon. Deputy Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report.

I also request Hon. Naomi Waqo to second the Motion for agreement with the

Hon. Deputy Speaker, I second.

Hon. Members, the time being 1.09 p.m., this House stands adjourned until today, Thursday, 13th March 2025, at 2.30 p.m.

The House rose at 1.09 p.m.

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